any fraternity/sorority people here?

tylerpjtx

i havnt posted in a LOOONG time so most of u prob dont recognize me. but i was just curious as to how many fraternity or sorority people came to this board? i'm guessing not many.

btw, i know we have a bad reputation but we're not all dickheads so if someone wants to post about that feel free to discuss but dont make generalizations.

GraySaturday

I was in a sorority for a little over a year in college. The girls were the meanest bunch of bitches in the universe, and I ended up disaffiliating from the sorority entirely. In PA, where I went to school, there are weird rules about official sorority houses and whatnot, but we had one with 15 girls at a time living there. Since we didn't own the house, and we rented it from an agent, when I quit in October, I had to live there until May of the following year. The girls stole my food, slashed my tires, and let my hampster go. They were so mean to me, and mean to each other. I did meet a lot of friends in a frat that we hung out with all the time. Some of the best memories I have from college were hanging out with that frat. They weren't all meatheads, or jerkoffs, they were really diverse, and hilarious. I do regret wasting my time and money for a year in my sorority, but it taught me a lot about friendship. Just not the lesson they hoped I'd learn.. haha

tylerpjtx

GraySaturday wrote:

I was in a sorority for a little over a year in college. The girls were the meanest bunch of bitches in the universe, and I ended up disaffiliating from the sorority entirely. In PA, where I went to school, there are weird rules about official sorority houses and whatnot, but we had one with 15 girls at a time living there. Since we didn't own the house, and we rented it from an agent, when I quit in October, I had to live there until May of the following year. The girls stole my food, slashed my tires, and let my hampster go. They were so mean to me, and mean to each other. I did meet a lot of friends in a frat that we hung out with all the time. Some of the best memories I have from college were hanging out with that frat. They weren't all meatheads, or jerkoffs, they were really diverse, and hilarious. I do regret wasting my time and money for a year in my sorority, but it taught me a lot about friendship. Just not the lesson they hoped I'd learn.. haha

yeah that sucks that you had that experience. what sorority was it? i'm lucky enough to be around a bunch of guys with good heads on their shoulders and good hearts. we have our dbags i guess, but mostly everyone is pretty cool. its made me grow up quite a bit.

Brain of J.Lo

GraySaturday wrote:

I was in a sorority for a little over a year in college. The girls were the meanest bunch of bitches in the universe, and I ended up disaffiliating from the sorority entirely. In PA, where I went to school, there are weird rules about official sorority houses and whatnot, but we had one with 15 girls at a time living there. Since we didn't own the house, and we rented it from an agent, when I quit in October, I had to live there until May of the following year. The girls stole my food, slashed my tires, and let my hampster go. They were so mean to me, and mean to each other. I did meet a lot of friends in a frat that we hung out with all the time. Some of the best memories I have from college were hanging out with that frat. They weren't all meatheads, or jerkoffs, they were really diverse, and hilarious. I do regret wasting my time and money for a year in my sorority, but it taught me a lot about friendship. Just not the lesson they hoped I'd learn.. haha

Wow! That's fucking disgusting! I'm glad you had some positive things happen in spite of that, though.

I was never into the greek thing. Instead, I was part of an organization that did a bunch of volunteer work. (We also drank and partied a bunch, but the volunteer stuff was the first priority.) It was fun and I met some fun people that way.

GraySaturday

tylerpjtx wrote:

yeah that sucks that you had that experience. what sorority was it? i'm lucky enough to be around a bunch of guys with good heads on their shoulders and good hearts. we have our dbags i guess, but mostly everyone is pretty cool. its made me grow up quite a bit.

It was Phi Sigma Sigma. My frat friends were in Sigma Phi Epsilon. I'll tell you, the SAE boys at my school were MIGHTY good looking... There were good times, but they were overshadowed by the bad times. I think frats work much better than sororities.. Girls can be such beasts when put together in a big house to tear each other part. Worst idea ever!

GraySaturday

Oh, did I mention that we had 15 girls living in the house, and ONE bathroom.

Yes, you read that right.. ONE


can you imagine????

Brain of J.Lo

GraySaturday wrote:

Oh, did I mention that we had 15 girls living in the house, and ONE bathroom.

Yes, you read that right.. ONE


can you imagine????

WOW.

Seriously, no wonder there were conflicts! That's absurd.

iamsampj

i was a member of chi omega in college. i'm glad for the experience, as i've made some great friends. but, after about a year in the sorority i was over the political bullshit that went along with it. i hated the unspoken rules of fraternity/sorority pairing for different events.

i learned how to deal with all different personality types, which is quite helpful. but, i honestly cringe when i'm around the stereotypical fraternity/sorority guy/girl....as i'm sure most people do.

i consider that point of my life my rebellious years...as close to an identity crisis as i've ever come. i never fit in anyways...you should've seen the looks on everyone's face when i showed up to recruitment one year, not in a sorority tee as "instructed" but in my brand new pearl jam blue binaural tee i refused to take it off, and proceeded to tell everyone about the amazing concert i had just been to! they loved me

iamsampj

GraySaturday wrote:

It was Phi Sigma Sigma. My frat friends were in Sigma Phi Epsilon. I'll tell you, the SAE boys at my school were MIGHTY good looking... There were good times, but they were overshadowed by the bad times. I think frats work much better than sororities.. Girls can be such beasts when put together in a big house to tear each other part. Worst idea ever!

sig ep boys were always my favs...i was voted their queen of hearts rep for my sorority one year...i feel like such a cheese ball, but at the time it was pretty awesome.

tylerpjtx

iamsampj wrote:

i was a member of chi omega in college. i'm glad for the experience, as i've made some great friends. but, after about a year in the sorority i was over the political bullshit that went along with it. i hated the unspoken rules of fraternity/sorority pairing for different events.

i learned how to deal with all different personality types, which is quite helpful. but, i honestly cringe when i'm around the stereotypical fraternity/sorority guy/girl....as i'm sure most people do.

i consider that point of my life my rebellious years...as close to an identity crisis as i've ever come. i never fit in anyways...you should've seen the looks on everyone's face when i showed up to recruitment one year, not in a sorority tee as "instructed" but in my brand new pearl jam blue binaural tee i refused to take it off, and proceeded to tell everyone about the amazing concert i had just been to! they loved me

yeah the politics definitely suck. but i try not to get involved in all of that. i just enjoy being around good freinds. and the networking is pretty badass too...i've met so many people...made a lot of great freinds in other frats and sororities too.

iamsampj

tylerpjtx wrote:

yeah the politics definitely suck. but i try not to get involved in all of that. i just enjoy being around good freinds. and the networking is pretty badass too...i've met so many people...made a lot of great freinds in other frats and sororities too.

after awhile i stopped caring about the politics...it was a waste of energy. the networking is good times. being a recruitment counselor was one of the best experiences...i highly recommend it. it was fun getting to know people in different sororities and helping all the new members going through.

Given2Fly...SD

Yeah I'm in a fraternity at UCSD, Sigma Phi Epsilon. We really don't have a negative stereotype, only that we are the self-loathing fraternity. We're a bunch a guys that wouldn't have joined a fraternity if we went to SDSU, the party school.

Oh well. I just don't like to be thought of as the typical "frat" guy. Its not my fraternity that makes me who I am...it's the music i listen to. hahaha

xscorcho

frats and sororites were not big at my college.... i think there was one official house...

BetterManningNYG

ZETA PSI

graduated in '04...

it was awesome. we ruined so many people's concert experiences. :rolleyes: just kidding... obviously...

i had never really planned on joining a fraternity, but about half of my lacrosse team was in zeta psi. as my first semester went on, i found myself hanging out with that group more and more. so i pledged in the spring.

the political aspect got a little frustrating at times, but that's pretty much the case with any type of organization that has a need for elected officers. i remember getting angry at times, but never so much that it carried over to when it was time go out drinking. and i ended up in some of the top positions (somehow), so i really have no reason to complain...

it's nice to know that there are others like me on this board, and that you guys are willing to admit it without fear of being flamed by those who don't understand.

cropdustress

I've never understood this whole sorority/fraternity thing, since I'm from a foreign country and we don't have these... But I was always wondering about
these, cause in the movies they always seem to have negative connotations...
This thread makes me understand the whole thing a little better...

tylerpjtx

cropdustress wrote:

I've never understood this whole sorority/fraternity thing, since I'm from a foreign country and we don't have these... But I was always wondering about
these, cause in the movies they always seem to have negative connotations...
This thread makes me understand the whole thing a little better...

well yeah, i mean they ARE social organizations and there's plenty of self-absorbed people in them....but at the heart of them they are all organizations that were formed on the idea of self improvement. for example my fraternities minimum pledge requirements are:
A man of good character
A student of fair ability
With ambitious purposes
A congenial disposition
Posessed of good morals
Having a high sense of honor
And a deep sense of personal responsibility.

We basically just try to improve ourselves every day and try to learn to treat people fairly. i mean those things are definitely things that should be inherent, but hey eveyrone needs a cheat sheet to life sometimes. AND we party all the time.

Atomic Punk

Sigma Phi Epsilon here.... Seton Hall University...made some great friends and learned a lot about many different things. Definitely an experience I would go through again.

jammergirl

definitely not hating on any frat/sorority people here, even though it wasn't my thing, i had a few close friends involved. but my school has been overwhelmed by greek controversy the past couple years (partying, hazing rumors, a national porn company filming in one of the frat houses). all of this culminated in the death of matthew carrington, which happened the first semester i attended in 2005. it made national news, he died from a hazing ritual in which you have to drink a gallon of water and do pushups. because of this incident, there's a new law going into effect in cali called matt's law, which gives harsher punishment to hazing.
nowadays the greek system here is way more mellower, and there is a bigger emphasis on academic achievement and volunteer work than hazing and partying.

Indian Summer

I work with a guy who just got out of college, and was a frat boy....nobody likes him because he's an arrogant prick.

scot88

you remember those popular kids from high school? the ones that didn't care about anyone else but themselves, not even the other kids in the popular group....


well, i hate to generalize, but nearly all of those kids go greek. it's just the cold hard facts. yeah, i know a few decent people in frats, but they are 1 in at least 50. the rest of them are self-righteous, arrogant, not accepting of non-greek people, etc.


i personally don't see the point of them. all that "self-improvement" nonsense is bullshit. if you wanted that, you would join the national service fraternity, or one of the major-specific ones.

tylerpjtx

scot88 wrote:

you remember those popular kids from high school? the ones that didn't care about anyone else but themselves, not even the other kids in the popular group....


well, i hate to generalize, but nearly all of those kids go greek. it's just the cold hard facts. yeah, i know a few decent people in frats, but they are 1 in at least 50. the rest of them are self-righteous, arrogant, not accepting of non-greek people, etc.


i personally don't see the point of them. all that "self-improvement" nonsense is bullshit. if you wanted that, you would join the national service fraternity, or one of the major-specific ones.

well maybe you should look into the purposes of a fraternity. its an opportunity to meet new people who you have similar values with. yes some are very ignorant and arrogant....but i think you'd be surprised at how small of a percentage those chapters really are.

Indian Summer

basically a Frat is a college version of a High school "clique". Yeah, you make friends with people you have stuff in common with, but you shut out the rest.

tylerpjtx

Indian Summer wrote:

basically a Frat is a college version of a High school "clique". Yeah, you make friends with people you have stuff in common with, but you shut out the rest.

i understand what u mean. but we're pretty accepting of people at my chapter...we always have ppl over to hang out and stuff. its different at different schools. sucks hows negative an image frats have. the point isnt to be exclusive...the point is similar tastes and networking opportunities and meeting folks u can learn some stuff from...not that u cant from non greeks...its just a huge institution where u can meet a lot of folks.

Indian Summer

tylerpjtx wrote:

i understand what u mean. but we're pretty accepting of people at my chapter...we always have ppl over to hang out and stuff. its different at different schools. sucks hows negative an image frats have. the point isnt to be exclusive...the point is similar tastes and networking opportunities and meeting folks u can learn some stuff from...not that u cant from non greeks...its just a huge institution where u can meet a lot of folks.

That's cool if you need that kind of security.

tylerpjtx

Indian Summer wrote:

That's cool if you need that kind of security.

fuck u man...thats ridiculous. open up your mind. generalizations about frats are the same as any other generalization...learn about shit before you knock it.

Indian Summer

tylerpjtx wrote:

fuck u man...thats ridiculous. open up your mind. generalizations about frats are the same as any other generalization...learn about shit before you knock it.

Oh no!!! I made drunken Frat-Boy Angry! Grow up dude. Frats are for socially retarded people.

iamsampj

scot88 wrote:

you remember those popular kids from high school? the ones that didn't care about anyone else but themselves, not even the other kids in the popular group....


well, i hate to generalize, but nearly all of those kids go greek. it's just the cold hard facts. yeah, i know a few decent people in frats, but they are 1 in at least 50. the rest of them are self-righteous, arrogant, not accepting of non-greek people, etc.


i personally don't see the point of them. all that "self-improvement" nonsense is bullshit. if you wanted that, you would join the national service fraternity, or one of the major-specific ones.

i see where your're coming from, i definitely believed the same stereotypes when i came to college. i was talked into going through sorority recruitment by a friend as a way for me to just meet friends. i found a group of girls who were very accepting of all types of people...there was definitely not a mold and we were not easily stereotyped. i assumed that everyone wore bows in their hair and were all named "mindy" or "brittany"...vomit. but...i was wrong.

at some schools, joining a greek organization is one of the easiest ways to become involved on campus. it made it easier for me to navigate different groups on campus, there was more awareness than if i would've gone about it on my own.

it's a personal decision, and obviously not for everyone. as i stated before...i even started to hate it after awhile. i don't think people should be so quick to judge someone who was/is in a greek organization without getting to know them first...then it is no different than what people believe about those in fraternities/sororities (being exclusive and non-accepting).

soulsinging

a fratboy raped my gf. all of their parties insisted that any guy going had to bring 2 girls. so if i was town, my gf couldnt take me anywhere without finding another girl willing to go with us solo. then they had separate kegs for girls and guys. needless to say, the girls were all made considerably drunker. and when one of them took her upstairs to show her where she could pass out, she woke up no longer a virgin.

you take that long distance phone call in the morning with your gf sobbing about what those guys did to her at their party and tell me frats are cool.

SoonForgotten2

cropdustress wrote:

I've never understood this whole sorority/fraternity thing, since I'm from a foreign country and we don't have these... But I was always wondering about
these, cause in the movies they always seem to have negative connotations...
This thread makes me understand the whole thing a little better...

This, dear Sid, is what frat's are all about-

tylerpjtx wrote:

fuck u man

GraySaturday

soulsinging wrote:

a fratboy raped my gf. all of their parties insisted that any guy going had to bring 2 girls. so if i was town, my gf couldnt take me anywhere without finding another girl willing to go with us solo. then they had separate kegs for girls and guys. needless to say, the girls were all made considerably drunker. and when one of them took her upstairs to show her where she could pass out, she woke up no longer a virgin.

you take that long distance phone call in the morning with your gf sobbing about what those guys did to her at their party and tell me frats are cool.

wow, there are no words for that. Seriously. Sadly enough, I must say knowing a lot of the frats at my school, this isn't an isolated event.

Horrible.

Brain of J.Lo

soulsinging wrote:

a fratboy raped my gf. all of their parties insisted that any guy going had to bring 2 girls. so if i was town, my gf couldnt take me anywhere without finding another girl willing to go with us solo. then they had separate kegs for girls and guys. needless to say, the girls were all made considerably drunker. and when one of them took her upstairs to show her where she could pass out, she woke up no longer a virgin.

you take that long distance phone call in the morning with your gf sobbing about what those guys did to her at their party and tell me frats are cool.

That's fucking horrible.

When my older sister was in college (back in the early 80's), there was a frat party at her school during which a girl got drunk and passed out, and then was stripped of her clothes and tied to the banister. They all took turns writing obscenities on her body and molesting her. This resulted in a huge overhauling of the greek system at her school...and it resulted in me not wanting to ever take part in that lifestyle.