Interesting Dr. Phil

Brain of J.Lo

GraySaturday wrote:

So I know Dr. Phil is annoying, and I'm sure a lot of you would never watch him. But todays topic is about girls/women posting pictures of themselves on facebook/myspace, wasted, peeing in public, puking, passed out and half naked. Its a group on facebook that promotes women posting pictures of themselves after drinking way too much, because its supposed to be funny.

Now they have people on there that are for it, one being one of the groups moderators, and obviously people that are against it.

One of the guys they talked to was a recruiter, and he was talking about looking at people's pages for work related recruitment.

What do you think about that? I personally think that if a company is going to invest a lot of time/money on an employee, that they have every right to look into their background be it facebook/myspace. Its a public domain and if you want to put pictures of yourself up in a place where everyone can see them, then you are opening yourself up to being judged based on your actions.

I don't know how I feel about it. I think your private life is your private life...no matter how often you get belligerently drunk and throw up on your friends.

On the other hand, I don't want to inadvertently befriend someone at my place of work who will eventually get belligerently drunk and throw up on me. :eek:

rarghrargh-brownstar

AmentsChick wrote:

A picture of me...totally wasted.

Id still hire you.

AmentsChick

rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:

Id still hire you.

You'd be glad you did. I'm an excellent employee.

GraySaturday

But the point was more about posting them for anyone and everyone to see. I am the first to admit I have had nights I don't remember! Buttttt.. I wouldn't put pictures up on the internet that could effect my job search and such. I am all for people doing whatever they want when they are in their free time. Of course you can drink and do whatever and still be a wonderful employee, but I do feel that employers have a right to question your judgement if you put things like that up on the internet to show off how out of control you got. And these are EXTREME cases. Not like, I was just out with some friends.. these are pictures that had to be blanked out. And, a lot of these girls are underage.

rarghrargh-brownstar

AmentsChick wrote:

You'd be glad you did. I'm an excellent employee.

Actually we need a hot blonde in the Sales department. And I know that youre well-read with excellent punctuation and grammar skills. But the blue eyes will do for now....:p

(maybe Jeff will be one of our clients. I so need a life).

edit: back to thread topic, I'll say it again: GS has some good points.

Brain of J.Lo

GraySaturday wrote:

But the point was more about posting them for anyone and everyone to see. I am the first to admit I have had nights I don't remember! Buttttt.. I wouldn't put pictures up on the internet that could effect my job search and such. I am all for people doing whatever they want when they are in their free time. Of course you can drink and do whatever and still be a wonderful employee, but I do feel that employers have a right to question your judgement if you put things like that up on the internet to show off how out of control you got. And these are EXTREME cases. Not like, I was just out with some friends.. these are pictures that had to be blanked out. And, a lot of these girls are underage.

I'm not going to keep Annabelle in a cage until she's 35.

Other than that, no, I really don't think people should be posting stuff for everyone to see...for the danger aspect of it more than anything.

er..edit: that was supposed to say I AM going to keep her in a cage until she's 35! lol...

Cosmo

rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:

Gray Saturday, you have lots of great points.



Cosmo: a man in his 50s (60s?) wanting girls who are "loose." I am sorry you always make me laugh with this kind of stuff. :P

I know you have a good sense of humour, so you wont take this "personally."

edit: :( I am just joking. Hope you have a happy new jear !

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Hey... I'm not proud. And I admit... I've done a lot shit in my days i probably shouldn't have... and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be doin' more. But, yeah... as long as the manifold pressure keeps the parts in workin' order... I'll keep on charming the gals out of their panties.

AmentsChick

Just make your profile private if you don't want the general public knowing your business.

GraySaturday

AmentsChick wrote:

Just make your profile private if you don't want the general public knowing your business.

You know, it was interesting that this was never brought up on the show. But I totally agree with that.

I do think it would be an interesting job to be the person who looks at peoples facebooks/myspace. I can imagine there would be some good laughs there.

Brain of J.Lo

GraySaturday wrote:

You know, it was interesting that this was never brought up on the show. But I totally agree with that.

I do think it would be an interesting job to be the person who looks at peoples facebooks/myspace. I can imagine there would be some good laughs there.

If that had been brought up, the show would have been over...lol.

AmentsChick

GraySaturday wrote:

You know, it was interesting that this was never brought up on the show. But I totally agree with that.

I do think it would be an interesting job to be the person who looks at peoples facebooks/myspace. I can imagine there would be some good laughs there.

I'll admit it. When I worked in accounting, we'd have resumes faxed and I'd always look people up...just for kicks. But I also wasn't in charge of hiring.

Cosmo

GraySaturday wrote:

But the point was more about posting them for anyone and everyone to see. I am the first to admit I have had nights I don't remember! Buttttt.. I wouldn't put pictures up on the internet that could effect my job search and such. I am all for people doing whatever they want when they are in their free time. Of course you can drink and do whatever and still be a wonderful employee, but I do feel that employers have a right to question your judgement if you put things like that up on the internet to show off how out of control you got. And these are EXTREME cases. Not like, I was just out with some friends.. these are pictures that had to be blanked out. And, a lot of these girls are underage.

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You're right... you are placing yourself at risk by doing that.
The problem today is... you DON'T even have to be the one posting pictures of yourself on the InterNet. All you have to be is... in public.
Say you're just out and about and you gotta take a leak... but, there isn't a restroom in sight. So, you piss in the parking lot... there's a chance you were captured on video and there's a possibility that someone who sees you might think it's funny enough to post on the Internet. The same goes for puking or banging in public... or anything you do in public.
For me... those polaroids of me... I have no idea where they are. But, they are polaroids and there is only one of each. The likelihood of any of them reaching the Internet is slim. My guess is that they went in the trash years ago... or are sitting in one of my ex's junk drawers or a box of old crap. But, anything is possible
With the advent of small digital cameras... and cameras on cell phones... everytime you step outdoors... you are fair game.

GraySaturday

Cosmo wrote:

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You're right... you are placing yourself at risk by doing that.
The problem today is... you DON'T even have to be the one posting pictures of yourself on the InterNet. All you have to be is... in public.
Say you're just out and about and you gotta take a leak... but, there isn't a restroom in sight. So, you piss in the parking lot... there's a chance you were captured on video and there's a possibility that someone who sees you might think it's funny enough to post on the Internet. The same goes for puking or banging in public... or anything you do in public.
For me... those polaroids of me... I have no idea where they are. But, they are polaroids and there is only one of each. The likelihood of any of them reaching the Internet is slim. My guess is that they went in the trash years ago... or are sitting in one of my ex's junk drawers or a box of old crap. But, anything is possible
With the advent of small digital cameras... and cameras on cell phones... everytime you step outdoors... you are fair game.

Exactly, and I feel for those who have something happen to them because of a situation that is out of their control. I don't like the "Tagging" option on facebook because you don't have to clear it first before it gets posted. Thats not fair in my opinion. If you are careful about what you post, but someone else posts it, and it costs you a chance at something, I fully believe its unfair. Its sad that we live in a world where you truly have to watch over your shoulder so to speak.

Cosmo

GraySaturday wrote:

Exactly, and I feel for those who have something happen to them because of a situation that is out of their control. I don't like the "Tagging" option on facebook because you don't have to clear it first before it gets posted. Thats not fair in my opinion. If you are careful about what you post, but someone else posts it, and it costs you a chance at something, I fully believe its unfair. Its sad that we live in a world where you truly have to watch over your shoulder so to speak.

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The other thing... who's to say you were the one who created the webpage? I mean, anyone can create a page, right? Isn't that what 'Cyber-Bullying' is? Kids put up pages of other kids and pick on them til they either kill themselves or come to school with a loaded arsenal?
toss in the ol' Photoshop and it all goes out the window.
That's WHY we shouldn't place so much emphasis on crap we see online. This was supposed to be the 'Information revolution'... but, it's turned inot the 'Bullshit Proliferation'. Again... why I wouldn't base my judgement on a prespective recruit on what I snoop out online. I would use the interNet to verify education information he/she has stated on the resume or application. but, looking for drunk pictures of them having sex... not my style.

decides2dream

blackredyellow wrote:

It's fair game... I don't agree with firing or disciplining an employee for something they post online, but for hiring, absolutely. If you are stupid enough to put halfnaked pictures of yourself or drunk puking pictures online, then I have every right not to hire you because of it.

anyone stupid enough to put semi-nude photos online, hell...even to SHARE such photos with anyone online....is just that: stupid, stupid, stupid! hey, i am all for whatever spices up your love-life, etc....but to share such with people out in cyberspace...or even people you might 'semi-know' online...is asking for trouble. you have NO idea what someone may or may not do with such photos...and being the internet/world-wide web....they may well end up in places you would NEVER want them to be. so hell yes, i think employers, spouses, etc...have every right to look, and to make judgements...b/c if you are dumb-ass enough to put such on the internet, you certainly lack the intelligence and/or wise decision-making ability i would want in a spouse...or an employee.

blackredyellow

I also think that people who feel the need to show of drunken pictures of themselves in embarrassing or compromising positions for the whole world to see, or brag about how wasted they got over and over again have some issues and/or are just VERY immature.

decides2dream

blackredyellow wrote:

I also think that people who feel the need to show of drunken pictures of themselves in embarrassing or compromising positions for the whole world to see, or brag about how wasted they got over and over again have some issues and/or are just VERY immature.

absolutely. immaturity knows no bounds either. some people really exhibit poor to no judgement for their onlione activity. have a bit of forethought to realize...how will this reflect on me in my life? would i want my BF, husband, child, mother, good friend, employer, etc...to see this? there is *no* privacy online. any that exists is purely perceived......and whatever you put out there can be reproduced and sent/posted EVERYwhere. i think the internet makes it almost too easy for people to exhibit poor critical thinking and thinking ahead to consequences of their actions, seemingly innocuous or not.

Drowned Out

AmentsChick wrote:

Just make your profile private if you don't want the general public knowing your business.

I thought this as soon as I started reading it...
If people are stupid enough to have those pics on their profile AND too stupid to either think of making their profile private while job hunting, or to figure out HOW....then they shouldn't be working anywhere that screens employees anyway. Probably the same people that can't figure out how to add an app without forwarding a join request to all their friends...or that pass on chain letters thinking pressing alt+F4 after will do something magical.

Heineken Helen

decides2dream wrote:

anyone stupid enough to put semi-nude photos online, hell...even to SHARE such photos with anyone online....is just that: stupid, stupid, stupid! hey, i am all for whatever spices up your love-life, etc....but to share such with people out in cyberspace...or even people you might 'semi-know' online...is asking for trouble. you have NO idea what someone may or may not do with such photos...and being the internet/world-wide web....they may well end up in places you would NEVER want them to be. so hell yes, i think employers, spouses, etc...have every right to look, and to make judgements...b/c if you are dumb-ass enough to put such on the internet, you certainly lack the intelligence and/or wise decision-making ability i would want in a spouse...or an employee.

Absolutely... once you post a picture on the internet (even on 'your own' page) it no longer belongs to you. So for somebody to post nude/semi nude/compromising pics online :eek: that's asking for sooooooooooooooo much trouble. We've all heard of Paris Hilton and Pamela Anderson tapes and stuff... I bet they never considered when they were making them that their partner would double cross them or that they could get stolen. It's the kids I seriously feel sorry for though

I mean imagine finding out there were pics of your mom naked flying around out there :eek: Holy fucking fuck! That's enough to fuck ANY kid up... next thing ya know these pics are floating around your kids school and everyones seen their mom naked/semi naked and you've just fucked their whole life up . Same with videos, celebrity or non, it's just ridiculously stupid

pjfan31

I see both sides of the atgument. You want to live your own life in private, do ur own thing. But as an employer, you don't want to hire an ice addict or whatever.

That is why i worry about what goes on mine. But my mate has put photos of me hugging a poker machine which i don't like. It just shows everyone my gambling addiction