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does anyone here know about heart and kidney failure

electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
edited November 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
my bf is very, very sick and i don't know what to do...~
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,592
    eddie's Tone rocks wrote:
    my bf is very, very sick and i don't know what to do...~
    what does his doctor say????
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  • justjoshingujustjoshingu Posts: 538
    did they say what kind of heart failure?
    how old is he?
    do you know what his lvef (left ventricular ejection fraction) is?
    i can probably send you some stuff to read about it, but if he's young do they know whats possibly causing it?
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    he says something like they are keeping him in hospital gonna do some surgery..take biopsy of kidneys on monday..send to Boston..i just can't comprehend all this now..he's so young... seemed always so strong and healthy, hardly ever sick with anything...~
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    justjoshingu wrote:
    did they say what kind of heart failure?
    how old is he?
    do you know what his lvef (left ventricular ejection fraction) is?
    i can probably send you some stuff to read about it, but if he's young do they know whats possibly causing it?


    they have no idea what's causing it...he always worked hard heavy construction work...fit...eats healthy and doesn't smoke or drink...~
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,592
    eddie's Tone rocks wrote:
    he says something like they are keeping him in hospital gonna do some surgery..take biopsy of kidneys on monday..send to Boston..i just can't comprehend all this now..he's so young... seemed always so strong and healthy, hardly ever sick with anything...~
    that is so sad....i wish him the best...

    stay strong.....cuz he is going to need you...
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • justjoshingujustjoshingu Posts: 538
    are they doing heart surgery or something else?

    if he's young he's got good chances and management with drugs later on is possbile. it really depends on what surgery and why. if he has kidney failure it could all depend on why. if the heart failure causes the kidney failure then the fixing the heart failure might make the kidneys work. if it is failure of the kidneys causing the heart failure and they cant get the kidneys to work, then he might need to be put on dialysis or kidney transplant. those are all worse case scenario's.

    does he live away from you?
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  • Urban HikerUrban Hiker Posts: 1,312
    eddie's Tone rocks wrote:
    he says something like they are keeping him in hospital gonna do some surgery..take biopsy of kidneys on monday..send to Boston..i just can't comprehend all this now..he's so young... seemed always so strong and healthy, hardly ever sick with anything...~

    Just with a quick web search, I can't find anything with both. Do they seem more concerned with the kidneys?

    I hope they get you some results soon. Take care.
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    that is so sad....i wish him the best...

    stay strong.....cuz he is going to need you...

    thank you for the response <3...he is truely one of the very best. i just got all this news.. i feel so lost...~
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    justjoshingu wrote:
    are they doing heart surgery or something else?

    if he's young he's got good chances and management with drugs later on is possbile. it really depends on what surgery and why. if he has kidney failure it could all depend on why. if the heart failure causes the kidney failure then the fixing the heart failure might make the kidneys work. if it is failure of the kidneys causing the heart failure and they cant get the kidneys to work, then he might need to be put on dialysis or kidney transplant. those are all worse case scenario's.

    does he live away from you?

    no..we live together...~
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  • justjoshingujustjoshingu Posts: 538
    the reason you would see problems with the kidneys and the heart is this.

    if the heart isnt working as well as it should then the blood backs up and blood pressure goes up. bloodflow to the kidney's goes down. kidneys regulate blood pressure so if they see a drop in blood pressure they release stuff to raise blood pressure and they also can't get rid of fluids so then the body swells (legs, arms etc) and blood pressure goes higher putting pressure on the heart. you can give stuff you lower blood pressure and excrete the fluid from the kidneys. if its the kidneys causing the heart failure its basically the same reason but at a different part of the cycle. there is other stuff that goes on so the surgery might say more about what they think it is.
    your boyfriend will be in our prayers. but i want you to know there is usually lots of stuff they can do for heart failure patients. its a tough thing to go thru and hopefully you and him have lots of friends and family to support you.
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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    Wow, sorry to hear about your bf. Hope he gets better soon. Best wishes your way.
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  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    I'm sorry about your boyfriend, but it seems like the doctor is going to take some biopsies just to be sure nothing else is going on. He's a young guy so he will be all right, ok? He's in my prayers!!
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  • Urban HikerUrban Hiker Posts: 1,312
    justjoshingu wrote:
    the reason you would see problems with the kidneys and the heart is this.

    if the heart isnt working as well as it should then the blood backs up and blood pressure goes up. bloodflow to the kidney's goes down. kidneys regulate blood pressure so if they see a drop in blood pressure they release stuff to raise blood pressure and they also can't get rid of fluids so then the body swells (legs, arms etc) and blood pressure goes higher putting pressure on the heart. you can give stuff you lower blood pressure and excrete the fluid from the kidneys. if its the kidneys causing the heart failure its basically the same reason but at a different part of the cycle. there is other stuff that goes on so the surgery might say more about what they think it is.
    your boyfriend will be in our prayers. but i want you to know there is usually lots of stuff they can do for heart failure patients. its a tough thing to go thru and hopefully you and him have lots of friends and family to support you.

    Thanks for the very helpful info. I can't speak for eddie's Tone rocks, but having some of the hows and whys would be very comforting to me in this type of situation.
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    justjoshingu wrote:
    the reason you would see problems with the kidneys and the heart is this.

    if the heart isnt working as well as it should then the blood backs up and blood pressure goes up. bloodflow to the kidney's goes down. kidneys regulate blood pressure so if they see a drop in blood pressure they release stuff to raise blood pressure and they also can't get rid of fluids so then the body swells (legs, arms etc) and blood pressure goes higher putting pressure on the heart. you can give stuff you lower blood pressure and excrete the fluid from the kidneys. if its the kidneys causing the heart failure its basically the same reason but at a different part of the cycle. there is other stuff that goes on so the surgery might say more about what they think it is.
    your boyfriend will be in our prayers. but i want you to know there is usually lots of stuff they can do for heart failure patients. its a tough thing to go thru and hopefully you and him have lots of friends and family to support you.

    i think they are leaning more towards the kidneys. he has no family cept' mine and they live in Alaska.

    a heartfelt of thanks out to everyone for all your responses..is appreciated. bless...~ <3<3<3
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Posts: 3,636
    i hope the doctors get to the bottom of his problems.
    it can take some time, though.

    i hope for the best for you both. good thoughts.
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  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    my grandpa died from heart/kidney failure.

    he was also 88 years old so he had no chance of recovery.

    actually, the congestive heart failure was caused by the meds he was taking to help with the kidney failure.

    best of wishes to you and your bf...


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    eddie's Tone rocks wrote:
    i think they are leaning more towards the kidneys. he has no family cept' mine and they live in Alaska.

    a heartfelt of thanks out to everyone for all your responses..is appreciated. bless...~ <3<3<3


    my best to you both...hang in there. he should do okay.

    once they do the biopsies it usually doesn't take very long to get the results to find out what's causing the kidney failure.
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  • tremorvoidtremorvoid Posts: 528
    justjoshingu wrote:
    the reason you would see problems with the kidneys and the heart is this.

    if the heart isnt working as well as it should then the blood backs up and blood pressure goes up. bloodflow to the kidney's goes down. kidneys regulate blood pressure so if they see a drop in blood pressure they release stuff to raise blood pressure and they also can't get rid of fluids so then the body swells (legs, arms etc) and blood pressure goes higher putting pressure on the heart. you can give stuff you lower blood pressure and excrete the fluid from the kidneys. if its the kidneys causing the heart failure its basically the same reason but at a different part of the cycle. there is other stuff that goes on so the surgery might say more about what they think it is.
    your boyfriend will be in our prayers. but i want you to know there is usually lots of stuff they can do for heart failure patients. its a tough thing to go thru and hopefully you and him have lots of friends and family to support you.

    good info here.

    best wishes eddiestonerocks!!! our hearts are with you and your bf.

    and never be afraid or shy to ask the doctors to explain these kind of things to you. Ask what are the possible causes and treatments, best and worse case scenarios. Ask them to explain it to you in laymans terms if you dont understand, but that can sometimes be too generic of an answer. they are more likely to know how to explain the possibilities in scientific terms...if so...ask them to write down some key words or conditions so that you could go look up and learn.

    have they already run dialysis on him to remove the build up of toxins? Or is it more of a fluid retention problem (this would lead to high blood pressure and stress on the heart)....is he on Lasik or some other diuretic (this would make him pee a lot thus reducing fluid volumes and blood pressure to ease the stress on the heart)?

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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    eddie's Tone rocks wrote:
    my bf is very, very sick and i don't know what to do...~
    I had heart failure. I don't really know much about it though as it was about 33 years ago. No need for meds since then, and I'm fit as a fiddle.

    My thoughts are with you and your boyfriend.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    i'm so sorry to hear about your boyfriend being sick. wishing all the best to you both, hope everything will be okay. hang in there
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    I'm so sorry tone that must be scary. :(
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  • mymanveddermymanvedder Posts: 88
    My thoughts and prayers are with you both. It should not be long before you find out what is really wrong. I am hoping for the best, as I am sure everyone else is too!

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  • mymanveddermymanvedder Posts: 88
    I wish the best for both of you. It will not be long before you find out what is really going on. Take care of each other.

    Peace
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  • MahoganySoulsMahoganySouls Posts: 357
    Hi ETR...

    If he has something wrong with his kidneys, it puts great pressure on the heart because of excess fluid and toxins in the body. This leads to congestive heart failure.

    What are his symptoms?
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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Sending you some good vibes...

    I hope they get to the bottom of this quickly.

    And don't forget to take care of yourself while you're busy worrying about him, ok?
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Hi ETR...

    If he has something wrong with his kidneys, it puts great pressure on the heart because of excess fluid and toxins in the body. This leads to congestive heart failure.

    What are his symptoms?

    it possibly can lead to congestive heart failure. not that always does.
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  • small town becksmall town beck Posts: 6,691
    My thoughts go out to you and your boyfriend. I hope it all goes well. My mum had/has congestive heart failure. For her surgery was not an option as she has a whole host of issues and she came out of that episode ok. All the best.
  • PJaddictedPJaddicted Posts: 1,432
    Waiting for an update.

    Sending positive vibes to him and YOU. Take good care of yourself.

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  • MahoganySoulsMahoganySouls Posts: 357
    prism wrote:
    it possibly can lead to congestive heart failure. not that always does.
    ETR the correlation between kidney disease and heart disease is extremely high. Please do not be misguided by misinformation. Here is a link that will help you and your boyfriend. I hope he is doing better and that his doctors are able to give you some answers soon. :)

    http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=681
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    thank you (((((everyone))))) for the info. and kind vibes... pearl jam fans rock!...~

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