2007 Yankees

gue_barium

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

so you think it is Paul Byrd who shall shovel the last of the dirt on The Yankees grave?

No. I think it is Byrd who will kick the dirt on the mound a few times and have a say to the end of the Yankees 2007 season tomorrow night.

stickboy

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

If it were up to me, I would have gone Pettitte Game 1, Clemens game 2, with Mussina and/or Hughes behind him if needed, and Wang in game 3. I think it was a big mistake to ignore Wang's home/road ERA differential

I think mussina can give us a good game at the stadium tomorrow. If we score and the bats wake up! maybe he can pitch with confidence

gue_barium

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

sounded in the postgame like wang is official. Great move

Wang is toast. The Tribe have his number.

igotid88

Wang needs to go at least 7.

Fighting Hellfish

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

it's definitely wang with mussina the first one to back up should wang not go long.

I think Wang will be great tomorrow. It's not like he threw a ton of pitches the other night. Did you hear Flaherty breaking down Wang tonight on the post game, about how his sinker should be even more effective on short rest, and how the long layoff between his last start and the Game 1 start made his arm basically too strong? flaherty's got a bright future ahead of him

Fighting Hellfish

hey, where's Allie tonight?

gue_barium

stickboy wrote:

jeters a pimp on the low come on now
we all know that
fuckin vanessa minllio or whatever her name is?
Jordana Brewster?
and it goes on...
pimp!

I think he's a phenomenol baseball player/athlete. I love to watch him play.

Fighting Hellfish

gue_barium wrote:

I think he's a phenomenol baseball player/athlete. I love to watch him play.

I hate to admit it, but after grounding into 2 double plays in the first 3 innings and making a throwing error that led to a run (even though it was scored a hit, c'mon it was an error) I joked aloud "What, does Jeter want Torre to get fired?"

stickboy

gue_barium wrote:

I think he's a phenomenol baseball player/athlete. I love to watch him play.

well that too of course.

stickboy

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

I hate to admit it, but after grounding into 2 double plays in the first 3 innings and making a throwing error that led to a run (even though it was scored a hit, c'mon it was an error) I joked aloud "What, does Jeter want Torre to get fired?"

hahahah, yea had me worried too, I was talkin shit down here with my friends. "we're comin out blazing.11-3 yankees!..joe aint goin nowhere and put your brooms up your asses"
I almost called it

BetterManningNYG

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

this whole torre thing is stupid by big stein. he can do what he wants but to me torre can manage until he decides when he wants to go.

It's amazing a person the caliber of Torre, who has done so much in terms of charity, has the full backing of virtually every player that has ever played for him, anybody that has ever worked with him as a coach is fighting for his job.

All of this while a person like Isiah Thomas, who has been found guilty of sexual harrassment, has yet to win a playoff game and has never had a winning season can remain employed it's truly absurd.

stupid? very. but it worked for him 30 years ago. maybe he thought he was threatening billy martin instead of joe torre.

speaking of which, i've heard that steinbrenner is beyond senile at this point and it's so serious that the front office actually takes steps to make sure that he doesn't come in contact with the media. so i wouldn't put too much stock in what he has to say. i don't know how he managed to sneak out this time. i'm imagining it to be sorta similar to when uncle junior snuck out to go visit his dead brother.

i'm kinda on the fence with torre. he's the best clubhouse manager in the game, but some of his in-game decisions really get magnified this time of year. i've always felt that the worst thing to happen to him was losing don zimmer. torre was the clubhouse guy and zimmer was the strategy guy. perfect formula. the yankees have had some great bench coaches since zimmer, but none of them have had the same level of authority.

i'm not sure if there's any truth to the rumor that pettitte, posada, and rivera will walk if torre gets fired, but it really speaks volumes about what he means to the team.

and i'd just like to state for the record that the chances of the yankees winning the world series are considerably better than the chances of isiah getting fired. and that's not a good thing. i miss having a basketball team to root for. :(

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

i would have let hughes start the seventh, but i'm not going to nit-pick over joba going 38 pitches, especially because there's no guarantee there's another game until the final out, especially if some of those other relievers like farnsworth pitch.

that's a bad situation in the yankees' bullpen if they really need to throw joba two innings with a five-run lead. that does not inspire confidence.

i completely agree regarding hughes, but i understand why joba pitched the seventh. he had already warmed up and they didn't want to shut him down. but i might have been inclined to let one of the other guys work the eighth with mariano as a safety net.

of course, then i'd be the one getting fired instead of torre...

Gary Carter

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

ahhh, we're just busting balls. He was going for the laugh, and I tried to follow up with a CVS on DPA joke, as there are like 3 CVSes on DPA. All in good fun. So, any way, what's this about Jeter banging Mariah?

DPA is on my way to work, u free tommrow around like 10:30 pm

gue_barium

BetterManningNYG wrote:

stupid? very. but it worked for him 30 years ago. maybe he thought he was threatening billy martin instead of joe torre.

speaking of which, i've heard that steinbrenner is beyond senile at this point and it's so serious that the front office actually takes steps to make sure that he doesn't come in contact with the media. so i wouldn't put too much stock in what he has to say. i don't know how he managed to sneak out this time. i'm imagining it to be sorta similar to when uncle junior snuck out to go visit his dead brother.

i'm kinda on the fence with torre. he's the best clubhouse manager in the game, but some of his in-game decisions really get magnified this time of year. i've always felt that the worst thing to happen to him was losing don zimmer. torre was the clubhouse guy and zimmer was the strategy guy. perfect formula. the yankees have had some great bench coaches since zimmer, but none of them have had the same level of authority.

i'm not sure if there's any truth to the rumor that pettitte, posada, and rivera will walk if torre gets fired, but it really speaks volumes about what he means to the team.

and i'd just like to state for the record that the chances of the yankees winning the world series are considerably better than the chances of isiah getting fired. and that's not a good thing. i miss having a basketball team to root for. :(



that's a bad situation in the yankees' bullpen if they really need to throw joba two innings with a five-run lead. that does not inspire confidence.

i completely agree regarding hughes, but i understand why joba pitched the seventh. he had already warmed up and they didn't want to shut him down. but i might have been inclined to let one of the other guys work the eighth with mariano as a safety net.

of course, then i'd be the one getting fired instead of torre...

Ahhh...the symptoms of an over-fan. Overthinking the chances of a team that isn't going to make it... check out the Twins thread. I became Jesus in August.

xavier mcdaniel

BetterManningNYG wrote:

stupid? very. but it worked for him 30 years ago. maybe he thought he was threatening billy martin instead of joe torre.

speaking of which, i've heard that steinbrenner is beyond senile at this point and it's so serious that the front office actually takes steps to make sure that he doesn't come in contact with the media. so i wouldn't put too much stock in what he has to say. i don't know how he managed to sneak out this time. i'm imagining it to be sorta similar to when uncle junior snuck out to go visit his dead brother.

i'm kinda on the fence with torre. he's the best clubhouse manager in the game, but some of his in-game decisions really get magnified this time of year. i've always felt that the worst thing to happen to him was losing don zimmer. torre was the clubhouse guy and zimmer was the strategy guy. perfect formula. the yankees have had some great bench coaches since zimmer, but none of them have had the same level of authority.

i'm not sure if there's any truth to the rumor that pettitte, posada, and rivera will walk if torre gets fired, but it really speaks volumes about what he means to the team.

and i'd just like to state for the record that the chances of the yankees winning the world series are considerably better than the chances of isiah getting fired. and that's not a good thing. i miss having a basketball team to root for. :(



that's a bad situation in the yankees' bullpen if they really need to throw joba two innings with a five-run lead. that does not inspire confidence.

i completely agree regarding hughes, but i understand why joba pitched the seventh. he had already warmed up and they didn't want to shut him down. but i might have been inclined to let one of the other guys work the eighth with mariano as a safety net.

of course, then i'd be the one getting fired instead of torre...

regarding the condition of steinbrenner, i don't know if you heard it this morning but the writer of the story was on WFAN this morning and was asked point blank how he thought steinbrenner's condition was and if he would have published it if he thought steinbrenner was senile. he said steinbrenner sounded normal - of course he could he been fooling the writer - and that he would not have published it had steinbrenner sounded senile like not knowing who A-Rod was.

As for the Joba thing, I still bring him in because there's no guarantee that you won't have to bring in anyway if someone else falters and in an elimination game, you just can't take that chance of someone who is not close to automatic if there is such a thing.

BetterManningNYG

stickboy wrote:

pick me up a pack of dutches will ya?

i'll throw down if you're rolling...

Fighting Hellfish

metsfan wrote:

DPA is on my way to work, u free tommrow around like 10:30 pm

okay....let's see here, monday. 10:30 PM. Not sure if I'd make it home in time to see The Daily Show. Can you make 10:15?

Gary Carter

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

okay....let's see here, monday. 10:30 PM. Not sure if I'd make it home in time to see The Daily Show. Can you make 10:15?

yes of course

BetterManningNYG

gue_barium wrote:

Ahhh...the symptoms of an over-fan. Overthinking the chances of a team that isn't going to make it... check out the Twins thread. I became Jesus in August.

over thinking what? when did i say the yankees were gonna make it?

if this is about isiah thomas, i can assure you that it was a joke.

the yankees also became jesus in august when they rose from the dead. now they're trying to take a 2-1 lead on jesus.

Fighting Hellfish

gue_barium wrote:

Ahhh...the symptoms of an over-fan. Overthinking the chances of a team that isn't going to make it... check out the Twins thread. I became Jesus in August.

you should have just listened to me in the Twins thread. Had you just listened to me in February, you could have had a lot more free time this summer. Check post # 18

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=230556&highlight=minnesota+twins

BetterManningNYG

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

regarding the condition of steinbrenner, i don't know if you heard it this morning but the writer of the story was on WFAN this morning and was asked point blank how he thought steinbrenner's condition was and if he would have published it if he thought steinbrenner was senile. he said steinbrenner sounded normal - of course he could he been fooling the writer - and that he would not have published it had steinbrenner sounded senile like not knowing who A-Rod was.

As for the Joba thing, I still bring him in because there's no guarantee that you won't have to bring in anyway if someone else falters and in an elimination game, you just can't take that chance of someone who is not close to automatic if there is such a thing.

interesting. there's definitely something going on, because it's not like steinbrenner to be as silent as he has been the last two years.

if we're talking about a reliever pitching three innings in two games, i'd rather it be mo than joba. i don't know why. maybe the "rules" have made me paranoid. and if veras or farnsworthless can't even pitch to the first batter of the eighth in that situation, it seems silly to even be carrying them on the roster...