Man, they keep coming out of the woodwork, don't they?
As long as the Pats keep doing what they do best (win), we're gonna hear all the crybaby's of the world come out and say how the Patriots cheated them out of something.
I live in Pittsburgh and am decidedly NOT a Steeler's fan. I love hearing how the Patriots "just had to be cheating in the 2001 and 2004 AFC Championship games."
Cry in your IC Light's, yinzers, the 70's Steelers can't even try to claim the "Best team ever" title anymore.
I'm not denying this happened. The Pats are cheaters, but I really don't care. They did the crime, they did the time. I don't think the 2007 week one game against the Jets was the first time they ever did it. But why are people chosing to ignore the people (and these ones are actually credible sources like Jimmy Johnson and Howie Long) who say this practice is rampant in the league? People just like to be selectively judgmental. They don't like Brady, they don't like Belichick, and since those 2 guys are winning all the time, people have to grasp at anything they can find.
Go Pats.
I'm so glad you're eating those words right now...
piece of shit cocksucker Belicheck didn't even shake hands
All respect to the GIANTS they kicked some ass tonight.
Peace
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
And I cannot wait until the Pats 2002 Championship is wiped off the books after this investigation.
Total sham of a franchise.
Good luck, The Giants earned every ounce of this championship by their play on the field.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
the NFL is trying to cover this up. this story is not going away.
With Congress involved we are sure to get to the bottom of this matter.
The G-MEN rule the day.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
With Congress involved we are sure to get to the bottom of this matter.
It'll be taken care of right away...haha. It would be nice if they publicly showed what the Pats had, that way we could all make an educated argument on it.
BTW if congress thinks the NFL has the steroids thing under control they should ask how Tom Brady went from not being able to throw a 25 yard out in 2001 to steaming a 90 yard pass on the fly to Randy Moss tonight...I've never seen a ball travel so far in my life - that was ridiculous. If he had that ability coming out of college he wouldn't have been drafted in the 6th round that's for sure.
It'll be taken care of right away...haha. It would be nice if they publicly showed what the Pats had, that way we could all make an educated argument on it.
BTW if congress thinks the NFL has the steroids thing under control they should ask how Tom Brady went from not being able to throw a 25 yard out in 2001 to steaming a 90 yard pass on the fly to Randy Moss tonight...I've never seen a ball travel so far in my life - that was ridiculous. If he had that ability coming out of college he wouldn't have been drafted in the 6th round that's for sure.
Die hard Patriot fan here but did that pass to Moss actually travel 90 yards?
If so check Balco for sure.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Well he was on the right side of the field and threw it all the way to the left which was probably 30 yards in travel to the side, and from memory it went from the 15-ish to the 18-ish...so we're looking at 73 yards in just distance, plus the side to side with algebra and stuff it had to be darn near 90 yards on the fly. I want to see highlights just to confirm what I saw, but I remember when Kordell Stewart threw that one to Westbrook for Colorado back in the day and that we 70 on the fly, straight ahead, and people talked about what a cannon he had.
Well he was on the right side of the field and threw it all the way to the left which was probably 30 yards in travel to the side, and from memory it went from the 15-ish to the 18-ish...so we're looking at 73 yards in just distance, plus the side to side with algebra and stuff it had to be darn near 90 yards on the fly. I want to see highlights just to confirm what I saw, but I remember when Kordell Stewart threw that one to Westbrook for Colorado back in the day and that we 70 on the fly, straight ahead, and people talked about what a cannon he had.
Maybe that's why he likes to chase super models with those arms.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
ha ha ha ha ha - what a bunch of sorry ass losers. can't win without cheating I guess. Love it. They really showed the world whose the greatest team - running up the score and all. Wonderful. 2nd place is no place.
The G-Men played to win and they're the World Champions.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The Patriots are cheaters?!? What are you going to tell me next? The ocean is full of water? Look, I'm a Steelers fan and I know my guys were juicing in the 1970s. I wasn't really around for any of those wins, but I've read the stories and, later, the obituaries of some of those guys. I guess cheating always goes on -- "If you're not cheating, you're not trying" -- but secretly videotaping walk-throughs and slide-line hand signals seems pretty slimy. Either way you look at it, whether you're a Pats fan or a fan of a team with a known history of performance-enhancing drug use, nobody is going to give up those Lombardi Trophies.
"Almost all those politicians took money from Enron, and there they are holding hearings. That's like O.J. Simpson getting in the Rae Carruth jury pool." -- Charles Barkley
Ditto for the Panthers and and Rams in SB's 38 & 36. Once a cheat, ALWAYS a cheat!!!
I don't see the Broncos giving back their 2 Super Bowl trophies when the League caught them and punished them for manipulating the salary cap their championship years.
"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.
That is also confirmation that everything and anything "accomplished" by Belichick/Brady and crew is a total sham. Congrats Pats fans, you wasted 8 years of your life rooting for a cheat.
"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.
That is also confirmation that everything and anything "accomplished" by Belichick/Brady and crew is a total sham. Congrats Pats fans, you wasted 8 years of your life rooting for a cheat.
I do take everything Specter says with a grain of salt. He's just another bitter Eagles fan. I mean he did co-author the single bullet theory.
The only problem with being upset that they were taping from 2000 on is that the league didn't enforce a rule banning it until 2006 when a memo was circulated around the league. So anything they did pre-2006 is moot. Sort of how baseball really can't suspend anyone who did steroids or hgh before they were technically banned.
As a Steelers and Eagles fan, yeah I'm upset this news came out. But what can you do about it. It was a rule that wasn't enforced that the Pats took advantage of.
I do take everything Specter says with a grain of salt. He's just another bitter Eagles fan. I mean he did co-author the single bullet theory.
The only problem with being upset that they were taping from 2000 on is that the league didn't enforce a rule banning it until 2006 when a memo was circulated around the league. So anything they did pre-2006 is moot. Sort of how baseball really can't suspend anyone who did steroids or hgh before they were technically banned.
As a Steelers and Eagles fan, yeah I'm upset this news came out. But what can you do about it. It was a rule that wasn't enforced that the Pats took advantage of.
I could be wrong, but I believe the NFL's bylaws and constitution banned taping long before the 2006 season and that the memo came after numerous complaints by other teams were issued about the Pats violating the bylaws.
I could be wrong, but I believe the NFL's bylaws and constitution banned taping long before the 2006 season and that the memo came after numerous complaints by other teams were issued about the Pats violating the bylaws.
I'm not sure when exactly it was written into the league's game operations manual, but from a couple places I read on the internet it was only added in during the offseason after Super Bowl 41. But the rule in itself is really poorly worded:
"No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game."
Technically, it never says sidelines. So I can see Belichick's lame attempt at saying he misinterpretted the rules and thought the sideline was not part of the field.
Now the league memo that came out prior in September 2006 said ""Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."
But the league memo and what was actually written in the game manual differed.
I can't find anything else detailing any NFL rules about videotaping an opponent.
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cheaters lose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so glad you're eating those words right now...
piece of shit cocksucker Belicheck didn't even shake hands
they're fucking evil and they've been defeated
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
pats deserved to lose!
i suck
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
And I cannot wait until the Pats 2002 Championship is wiped off the books after this investigation.
Total sham of a franchise.
Good luck, The Giants earned every ounce of this championship by their play on the field.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
With Congress involved we are sure to get to the bottom of this matter.
The G-MEN rule the day.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It'll be taken care of right away...haha. It would be nice if they publicly showed what the Pats had, that way we could all make an educated argument on it.
BTW if congress thinks the NFL has the steroids thing under control they should ask how Tom Brady went from not being able to throw a 25 yard out in 2001 to steaming a 90 yard pass on the fly to Randy Moss tonight...I've never seen a ball travel so far in my life - that was ridiculous. If he had that ability coming out of college he wouldn't have been drafted in the 6th round that's for sure.
Die hard Patriot fan here but did that pass to Moss actually travel 90 yards?
If so check Balco for sure.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
What's strange is Brady has thin womanlike arms.
Maybe that's why he likes to chase super models with those arms.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Toronto 2011 night 2
Hamilton 2011
London 2013
Are Peyton and Eli's parents brother and sister? They kinda look inbred to me.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Go Birds!
Ditto for the Panthers and and Rams in SB's 38 & 36. Once a cheat, ALWAYS a cheat!!!
I don't see the Broncos giving back their 2 Super Bowl trophies when the League caught them and punished them for manipulating the salary cap their championship years.
Once the game is over, its over.
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That is also confirmation that everything and anything "accomplished" by Belichick/Brady and crew is a total sham. Congrats Pats fans, you wasted 8 years of your life rooting for a cheat.
I do take everything Specter says with a grain of salt. He's just another bitter Eagles fan. I mean he did co-author the single bullet theory.
The only problem with being upset that they were taping from 2000 on is that the league didn't enforce a rule banning it until 2006 when a memo was circulated around the league. So anything they did pre-2006 is moot. Sort of how baseball really can't suspend anyone who did steroids or hgh before they were technically banned.
As a Steelers and Eagles fan, yeah I'm upset this news came out. But what can you do about it. It was a rule that wasn't enforced that the Pats took advantage of.
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I could be wrong, but I believe the NFL's bylaws and constitution banned taping long before the 2006 season and that the memo came after numerous complaints by other teams were issued about the Pats violating the bylaws.
I'm not sure when exactly it was written into the league's game operations manual, but from a couple places I read on the internet it was only added in during the offseason after Super Bowl 41. But the rule in itself is really poorly worded:
"No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game."
Technically, it never says sidelines. So I can see Belichick's lame attempt at saying he misinterpretted the rules and thought the sideline was not part of the field.
Now the league memo that came out prior in September 2006 said ""Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."
But the league memo and what was actually written in the game manual differed.
I can't find anything else detailing any NFL rules about videotaping an opponent.
So if anyone finds anything please share.
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