Of course not, because Secretary Rice has been soooooo effective over the previous years as head of the State Department. Her biggest thought is that the Fall shopping season has begun and she'll be in Paris.
On the other hand, this wait and see sh-t must be f--king with Sarkozy's feeling of god like powers as he reigns over his subjects in the EU.
Like I said, a dog and pony show.
for fux sake. how has rice not been effective. she is the one who negotiated the peace deal
for fux sake. how has rice not been effective. she is the one who negotiated the peace deal
No!!! She's the scripted messenger. Don't confuse delivery with negotiation.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
This episode of the AJ show, August 12th, is absolutely critical must hear information regarding the conflict in Georgia.
Paul Craig Roberts and especially Webster Griffin Tarpley have deep and intimate knowledge of the geopolitical dynamics surrounding these events.
Once you understand the real ground truth about what is going on over there, and how the US response is absolutely ridiculous and dangerous, i don't think you will ever look at this the same again.
Tarpley is also extremely illuminating in this interview on the subject of Obama and why his candidacy is so troubling for America.
Again, i can't stress how fucking good this episode is.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Your one liners are cute,
in a pathetic sort of way.
Alex has guests on his show who are SPOT ON in there assessments of current events.
If you are deaf to that, then so be it.
But don't sit back and make fun of it without even knowing what the fuck you are talking about,
because that is the definition of ignorance, bub.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Your one liners are cute,
in a pathetic sort of way.
Alex has guests on his show who are SPOT ON in there assessments of current events.
If you are deaf to that, then so be it.
But don't sit back and make fun of it without even knowing what the fuck you are talking about,
because that is the definition of ignorance, bub.
alex jones is a fucking dirtbag fuckstick. he does nothing but brainwash. you appear to be a dedicated solider. scary.
Your one liners are cute,
in a pathetic sort of way.
Alex has guests on his show who are SPOT ON in there assessments of current events.
If you are deaf to that, then so be it.
But don't sit back and make fun of it without even knowing what the fuck you are talking about,
because that is the definition of ignorance, bub.
dont direct us clear thinking people to some asshole. this is a message board, if you (alex) has such valuable information, why dont you share it with us?
dont direct us clear thinking people to some asshole. this is a message board, if you (alex) has such valuable information, why dont you share it with us?
i did share it.
your response included "fucking dirtbag fuckstick".
:rolleyes:
So you don't think guests like former Wall Street Journal editors or former US Treasury Secretaries hold any water, huh?
Why don't you pull your fucking head out of your ass long enough to give it a listen, instead of being such a pernicious, belligerent shmuck?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
clearly the only thing you're dying for is to troll on a message board.
because you are NOT listening to dick,
save for your own obnoxious voice.
you can hear me talking? I'm not trolling, I'm asking you for information. from your own words. I'm not going to other websites, why is that so hard to understand?
I'm not going to other websites, why is that so hard to understand?
Its not hard at all.
With a mindset as warped as yours, it is clear as christ that your only "source" for information is shitty message boards and your own personal delusions.
In short:
Georgia is a Israeli\US\NATO puppet state with leadership absolutely infiltrated by said controlling influences.
The entire conflict was started by GEORGIA ... NOT Russia ... when Georgia pulled a sneak attack on Ossetia, and massacred several thousand Russian citizens\troops\sympathizers.
Russia is simply trying to defend itself from Western encroachment on its own sovereign territory. The conflict in Georgia stands as only the tip of the blade in a Western plot to surround, intimidate, and ultimately destabilize Russia to the point that it is no longer a viable power entity.
The manipulation of facts by the US media is borderline criminal,
and the response of the US administration is beyond insane.
Of course all this is pointless to try and explain to someone who actually outright refuses to be versed in fact.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
The entire conflict was started by GEORGIA ... NOT Russia ... when Georgia pulled a sneak attack on Ossetia, and massacred several thousand Russian citizens\troops\sympathizers.
do you have or have seen solid proof of this or you believe it simply because alex told you to? I love facts. show me one.
or do you need something with "CNN" plastered all over it?
:rolleyes:
here,
even this Pro-Georgian article in the IrishTimes admits it was a sneak attack by GEORGIA, and not Russia that was the immediate cause of this conflict.
or do you need something with "CNN" plastered all over it?
:rolleyes:
here,
even this Pro-Georgian article in the IrishTimes admits it was a sneak attack by GEORGIA, and not Russia that was the immediate cause of this conflict.
or do you need something with "CNN" plastered all over it?
:rolleyes:
here,
even this Pro-Georgian article in the IrishTimes admits it was a sneak attack by GEORGIA, and not Russia that was the immediate cause of this conflict.
You may want to start realizing that while Alex Jones is as sensationalistic as possible,
he is also largely accurate.
listen guy, this specific region has been fucked up for a very long time. I dont care what source you have, its very hard to tell exactly what is going on. you seem to jump at the chance to blame the US for this. all I'm saying is take in as much information as you and understand not all of it may be correct.
listen guy, this specific region has been fucked up for a very long time. I dont care what source you have, its very hard to tell exactly what is going on. you seem to jump at the chance to blame the US for this. all I'm saying is take in as much information as you and understand not all of it may be correct.
I dont care what source you have, its very hard to tell exactly what is going on. you seem to jump at the chance to blame the US for this.
I disagree with drifting here (obviously Georgia struck first but that's not a reason for Russia to start an occupation, especially after agreeing with a ceasefire) but at least he has the curtesy to use arguments and sources.
So what exactly do you want, facts or no facts?
I disagree with drifting here (obviously Georgia struck first but that's not a reason for Russia to start an occupation, especially after agreeing with a ceasefire) but at least he has the curtesy to use arguments and sources.
So what exactly do you want, facts or no facts?
thats my point, its very difficult to discern fact from fiction. we are talking about a region that is technically within Georgian borders but have russian citizens and russian "peacekeepers". driftin (aka alex jones) seem a little quick to blame georgia in this mess simply because Georgia is a US/Israel "puppet". how about taking into account Russia's history in the region. or the fact that drunken russian militias seemingly do what they please. its a fucked up place to say the least.
thats my point, its very difficult to discern fact from fiction. we are talking about a region that is technically within Georgian borders but have russian citizens and russian "peacekeepers". driftin (aka alex jones) seem a little quick to blame georgia in this mess simply because Georgia is a US/Israel "puppet". how about taking into account Russia's history in the region. or the fact that drunken russian militias seemingly do what they please. its a fucked up place to say the least.
ah here, make a fucking effort.
Discerning opinions from facts is difficult, and up to individuals. What you just did was disregard the information provided by drifting as fictional bullshit without giving it a chance. do you believe that all information on the internet is flawed or something? all articles have somewhat of a bias, its up to you to make up your mind. if you read driftings links and didnt agree, fair enough.
responding to the links with petulant insults doesnt make any sense.
Im not picking sides in this, but seeing as you raised the issue of the copmlicated history of the area, heres a question; why are the US there? Russia obviously has a history with the area because Ossetia is on Russian borders. Why are the US putting such an effort to supporting a government in Georgia as opposed to say....anywhere in Africa? countries that do not have vast natural resources yet to be developed?
Also, if Russia used its historical interest as a reason to have troops in Ossetia, then by that logic, it could send troops into all former Soviet countries! ....the role of the Georgian government deserves to be in the spotlight. Ossetia (& Abkhazia) didnt just suddenly not want to be part of Georgia. The Georgians have been (not) dealing with that problem for 17 years, so i think its perfectly fair for the government to come under scrutiny
ah here, make a fucking effort.
Discerning opinions from facts is difficult, and up to individuals. What you just did was disregard the information provided by drifting as fictional bullshit without giving it a chance. do you believe that all information on the internet is flawed or something? all articles have somewhat of a bias, its up to you to make up your mind. if you read driftings links and didnt agree, fair enough.
calm down. I didnt disregard anything of the information alex jones posted. I just said to be very careful when discerning any information in this particular situation because of the complexity of it.
Russia obviously has a history with the area because Ossetia is on Russian borders. Why are the US putting such an effort to supporting a government in Georgia as opposed to say....anywhere in Africa?
I'd say we put a shitload more effort into Africa then georgia.
Also, if Russia used its historical interest as a reason to have troops in Ossetia, then by that logic, it could send troops into all former Soviet countries!
no, dont think so. South Ossetia has mostly russian citizens. I'm not sure of many areas outside this small region that is similar in complexity in regards to former soviet countries.
....the role of the Georgian government deserves to be in the spotlight. Ossetia (& Abkhazia) didnt just suddenly not want to be part of Georgia. The Georgians have been (not) dealing with that problem for 17 years, so i think its perfectly fair for the government to come under scrutiny
where in Georgia? we're not really. we support a democratic free country. so what?
a democratic free country that happens to be on the border with Russia AND have ethnic dissent issues AND a major oil pipeline through it AND
"So what" doesnt make that an alright thing to do. Its like a political middle finger to Russia.
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for fux sake. how has rice not been effective. she is the one who negotiated the peace deal
No!!! She's the scripted messenger. Don't confuse delivery with negotiation.
how do u know? u act as if u were there
I have keen interpretation skills.
:rolleyes: of course you do.
In all seriousness, however, there are books - and it is painfully obvious - that show Rice's ineptness... such as What Really Happened.
Paul Craig Roberts and especially Webster Griffin Tarpley have deep and intimate knowledge of the geopolitical dynamics surrounding these events.
Once you understand the real ground truth about what is going on over there, and how the US response is absolutely ridiculous and dangerous, i don't think you will ever look at this the same again.
Tarpley is also extremely illuminating in this interview on the subject of Obama and why his candidacy is so troubling for America.
Again, i can't stress how fucking good this episode is.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
yeah.
go give it a listen and get back to me.
Your one liners are cute,
in a pathetic sort of way.
Alex has guests on his show who are SPOT ON in there assessments of current events.
If you are deaf to that, then so be it.
But don't sit back and make fun of it without even knowing what the fuck you are talking about,
because that is the definition of ignorance, bub.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I'll be happy to read what you post showing proof that Rice did nothing to help broker a ease fire deal in georgia.
alex jones is a fucking dirtbag fuckstick. he does nothing but brainwash. you appear to be a dedicated solider. scary.
dont direct us clear thinking people to some asshole. this is a message board, if you (alex) has such valuable information, why dont you share it with us?
This is just AJ though, not WG Tarpley or PC Roberts.s
Nevertheless, if you have a zero baseline for understanding what is (was) actually happening over in Georgia, this is probably helpful.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
tell us ALEX!
how is this the US's fault? I'm dying to know
i did share it.
your response included "fucking dirtbag fuckstick".
:rolleyes:
So you don't think guests like former Wall Street Journal editors or former US Treasury Secretaries hold any water, huh?
Why don't you pull your fucking head out of your ass long enough to give it a listen, instead of being such a pernicious, belligerent shmuck?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
clearly the only thing you're dying for is to troll on a message board.
because you are NOT listening to dick,
save for your own obnoxious voice.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Jesus H. cliff note it for us.
you can hear me talking? I'm not trolling, I'm asking you for information. from your own words. I'm not going to other websites, why is that so hard to understand?
Its not hard at all.
With a mindset as warped as yours, it is clear as christ that your only "source" for information is shitty message boards and your own personal delusions.
In short:
Georgia is a Israeli\US\NATO puppet state with leadership absolutely infiltrated by said controlling influences.
The entire conflict was started by GEORGIA ... NOT Russia ... when Georgia pulled a sneak attack on Ossetia, and massacred several thousand Russian citizens\troops\sympathizers.
Russia is simply trying to defend itself from Western encroachment on its own sovereign territory. The conflict in Georgia stands as only the tip of the blade in a Western plot to surround, intimidate, and ultimately destabilize Russia to the point that it is no longer a viable power entity.
The manipulation of facts by the US media is borderline criminal,
and the response of the US administration is beyond insane.
Of course all this is pointless to try and explain to someone who actually outright refuses to be versed in fact.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
do you have or have seen solid proof of this or you believe it simply because alex told you to? I love facts. show me one.
sure.
How about SIGINT sources?
or do you need something with "CNN" plastered all over it?
:rolleyes:
here,
even this Pro-Georgian article in the IrishTimes admits it was a sneak attack by GEORGIA, and not Russia that was the immediate cause of this conflict.
and one more source for you to pick apart.
hell.
one more, even.
You may want to start realizing that while Alex Jones is as sensationalistic as possible,
he is also largely accurate.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
listen guy, this specific region has been fucked up for a very long time. I dont care what source you have, its very hard to tell exactly what is going on. you seem to jump at the chance to blame the US for this. all I'm saying is take in as much information as you and understand not all of it may be correct.
:rolleyes:
you again. whats your question?
So what exactly do you want, facts or no facts?
thats my point, its very difficult to discern fact from fiction. we are talking about a region that is technically within Georgian borders but have russian citizens and russian "peacekeepers". driftin (aka alex jones) seem a little quick to blame georgia in this mess simply because Georgia is a US/Israel "puppet". how about taking into account Russia's history in the region. or the fact that drunken russian militias seemingly do what they please. its a fucked up place to say the least.
ah here, make a fucking effort.
Discerning opinions from facts is difficult, and up to individuals. What you just did was disregard the information provided by drifting as fictional bullshit without giving it a chance. do you believe that all information on the internet is flawed or something? all articles have somewhat of a bias, its up to you to make up your mind. if you read driftings links and didnt agree, fair enough.
responding to the links with petulant insults doesnt make any sense.
Im not picking sides in this, but seeing as you raised the issue of the copmlicated history of the area, heres a question; why are the US there? Russia obviously has a history with the area because Ossetia is on Russian borders. Why are the US putting such an effort to supporting a government in Georgia as opposed to say....anywhere in Africa? countries that do not have vast natural resources yet to be developed?
Also, if Russia used its historical interest as a reason to have troops in Ossetia, then by that logic, it could send troops into all former Soviet countries! ....the role of the Georgian government deserves to be in the spotlight. Ossetia (& Abkhazia) didnt just suddenly not want to be part of Georgia. The Georgians have been (not) dealing with that problem for 17 years, so i think its perfectly fair for the government to come under scrutiny
calm down. I didnt disregard anything of the information alex jones posted. I just said to be very careful when discerning any information in this particular situation because of the complexity of it.
where in Georgia? we're not really. we support a democratic free country. so what?
I'd say we put a shitload more effort into Africa then georgia.
no, dont think so. South Ossetia has mostly russian citizens. I'm not sure of many areas outside this small region that is similar in complexity in regards to former soviet countries.
I agree! I didn't say otherwise
i didnt see that post.
a democratic free country that happens to be on the border with Russia AND have ethnic dissent issues AND a major oil pipeline through it AND
"So what" doesnt make that an alright thing to do. Its like a political middle finger to Russia.
Do you mean for aid, or for securing democratic presidents and funding their military?