1. This 3% shit, that you are calling Roland out as a liar or whatever:
It IS common knowledge to ANYONE who has done ANY research on this issue that 3% (or 3 to 5%) is the average rate of enrichment for non-weapons uranium -- ie. POWER GENERATION.
Like he said.
Look it the fuck up.
We did our homework.
The least you could do, is do yours.
But here, since it seems you can't, won't or just don't want to:
Your obsession with the UN resolutions condeming Iran to stop enrichment are, in the view of those defending Iran's soverignty on this count, fucking ridiculous. Iran is in violation of NO law, has done NOTHING illegal with its enrichment program, and is attempting to continue following down a path towards self subsistent nuclear power generation that it was placed on over 30 years ago with the consent of the United States and the international community!
Since that time it has been NOTHING but lies, deceit, backstabbing, stalling, and backtracking from the US and the international community regarding their support for Iran's ambitions. This has NOTHING to do with any immmediate physical threat coming from Iran, and EVERYTHING to do with the IMPLICATIONS of a 1st world Iran that has achieved internaly sustainable domestic power and therefore becomes a force on the world stage of industrialized nations.
WE DON'T WANT MUSLIM STATES RISING ON THE TOTEM POLE!
That is the SOLE reason for all of this bullshit.
We are just trigger happy for an excuse to bomb the poor arabs back to the stone age. We want what we did to Iraq -- an excuse to come in and bomb away every bridge, water treatment center, flour manufacturer, power generator, radio tower, and civil infrastructure we can think of. Crippling Iran for decades, and coldly murdering several generations of soverign arab muslim citizens.
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jezuz christ. calm the fuck down. I wasnt questioning how much enriched uranium can come from power plants. I was questioning how he knows Iran only has this much. I asked for proof. something he didnt provide, you did. thank you. now go take your zanax you fucking head is going to explode.
from your source..
56. Contrary to the decisions of the Security Council, Iran has not suspended its enrichment related
activities, having continued the operation of PFEP and FEP. In addition, Iran started the development
of new generation centrifuges. Iran has also continued construction of the IR-40 reactor and operation
of the Heavy Water Production Plant.
56. Contrary to the decisions of the Security Council, Iran has not suspended its enrichment related
activities, having continued the operation of PFEP and FEP. In addition, Iran started the development
of new generation centrifuges. Iran has also continued construction of the IR-40 reactor and operation
of the Heavy Water Production Plant.
Right.
We all know this.
Like those here have been saying ... there is nothing wrong -- legally or morally -- with Iran's quest for peaceable nuclear fuel. The US has utilitzed its heavy influence on the UN Security Council to implement resolutions which violate the basic soverignty of Iran.
If Iran is in compliance with all the IAEAs requests regarding fuel enrichment, and maintains its long set pursuit of peacefull nuclear energy, they are in violation of nothing -- save for your all mighty UN Security Council which is attempting to violate national soverignty for ulterior global geo-political motives.
:cool:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
WE DON'T WANT MUSLIM STATES RISING ON THE TOTEM POLE!
That is the SOLE reason for all of this bullshit.
We are just trigger happy for an excuse to bomb the poor arabs back to the stone age. We want what we did to Iraq -- an excuse to come in and bomb away every bridge, water treatment center, flour manufacturer, power generator, radio tower, and civil infrastructure we can think of. Crippling Iran for decades, and coldly murdering several generations of soverign arab muslim citizens.
:(
Now we are talking how soon can we get something like this off the ground. You think if we clog up the Persian gulf with enough boats we can just run into an excuse or is that an act of war.
BIGDVS wants to bomb him some Saudis, Syrians, Egyptians, Iranians, Pakistians and the entire West Bank and Gaza...
"Aloha...git some!" (CK RAMONE, MSG II '08)
"The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
— Socrates
Srsly though this is not as big of an issue as Israel is making it and I have a feeling the defense department knows it. My opinion and not much in the news to go on about this is I think we are trying to get Iran to flip. Not necessarily to go back to dealing with the US overtly (think more Jordan like, then Suadi Arabia) but at least to stop dealing with North Korea and Russia (and this is helping antagonize the georgia situation). So we are diplomatically holding back the pitbull (israel) but still showing our seriousness about seeing something change (naval blockade maybe).
It would be a simple case of letting them kill themselves and have civil wars with in Islam for the next 500-800 years if they didnt happen to live on top of the damn black gold.
"The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
— Socrates
absolutely not. I want two things. to have NO bombs dropped on Iran and for Iran to not have a nuclear weapon.
Okay.
Well as far as Iran's part of the deal goes,
they DON'T have a nuclear weapon,
and they are NOT PURSUING a nuclear weapon.
But,
i guess i can understand all the skepticisim though,
since the first country in the region to (ILLEGALY) obtain nukes still claims it does NOT have them ... :cough cough: Israel :cough cough:
So, with that as your precedent, i guess it makes sense to question everything.
Why do the Israelis have to screw up the nuclear party for everyone !?!
:rolleyes:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
just because you ALL CAP something, doesnt make it true.
So tell me what is it that makes you really believe Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons?
The papers are all hear say and twisted facts so why is that you really think this time they are telling the truth after Iraq turned out to be blatant lies?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
So tell me what is it that makes you really believe Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons?
The papers are all hear say and twisted facts so why is that you really think this time they are telling the truth after Iraq turned out to be blatant lies?
I'm not saying they are. I have my doubts they are not 100% truthfully however. that doesnt mean I want them bombed either.
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jezuz christ. calm the fuck down. I wasnt questioning how much enriched uranium can come from power plants. I was questioning how he knows Iran only has this much. I asked for proof. something he didnt provide, you did. thank you. now go take your zanax you fucking head is going to explode.
from your source..
56. Contrary to the decisions of the Security Council, Iran has not suspended its enrichment related
activities, having continued the operation of PFEP and FEP. In addition, Iran started the development
of new generation centrifuges. Iran has also continued construction of the IR-40 reactor and operation
of the Heavy Water Production Plant.
Right.
We all know this.
Like those here have been saying ... there is nothing wrong -- legally or morally -- with Iran's quest for peaceable nuclear fuel. The US has utilitzed its heavy influence on the UN Security Council to implement resolutions which violate the basic soverignty of Iran.
If Iran is in compliance with all the IAEAs requests regarding fuel enrichment, and maintains its long set pursuit of peacefull nuclear energy, they are in violation of nothing -- save for your all mighty UN Security Council which is attempting to violate national soverignty for ulterior global geo-political motives.
:cool:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Oh yeah...git some!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Now we are talking how soon can we get something like this off the ground. You think if we clog up the Persian gulf with enough boats we can just run into an excuse or is that an act of war.
BIGDVS wants to bomb him some Saudis, Syrians, Egyptians, Iranians, Pakistians and the entire West Bank and Gaza...
"Aloha...git some!" (CK RAMONE, MSG II '08)
— Socrates
absolutely not. I want two things. to have NO bombs dropped on Iran and for Iran to not have a nuclear weapon.
It would be a simple case of letting them kill themselves and have civil wars with in Islam for the next 500-800 years if they didnt happen to live on top of the damn black gold.
— Socrates
but I can totally sympathize with Iran with all this talk of invasion...
Maybe it's time for others in the region not to sleep well...
Okay.
Well as far as Iran's part of the deal goes,
they DON'T have a nuclear weapon,
and they are NOT PURSUING a nuclear weapon.
But,
i guess i can understand all the skepticisim though,
since the first country in the region to (ILLEGALY) obtain nukes still claims it does NOT have them ... :cough cough: Israel :cough cough:
So, with that as your precedent, i guess it makes sense to question everything.
Why do the Israelis have to screw up the nuclear party for everyone !?!
:rolleyes:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
just because you ALL CAP something, doesnt make it true.
besides Israel?
So tell me what is it that makes you really believe Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons?
The papers are all hear say and twisted facts so why is that you really think this time they are telling the truth after Iraq turned out to be blatant lies?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I'm not saying they are. I have my doubts they are not 100% truthfully however. that doesnt mean I want them bombed either.