So with Sarah Palin, out goes the whole inexperienced talk?

MonsterOfTheMidwayMonsterOfTheMidway Posts: 416
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
How can anyone attack Obama for being inexperienced when Palin is a first term governor with most political experience coming from her stint on city council and mayor of WASILLA that began in '92?
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  • At least she's the VP nominee and not the Prez.

    Obama's got less experience than Palin.

    And she knows how to fire a weapon.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    How can anyone attack Obama for being inexperienced when Palin is a first term governor with most political experience coming from her stint on city council and mayor of WASILLA that began in '92?

    Yup. And from the other side with the Biden pick out goes all of the "old" talk. And out goes the Washington insider talk.
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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    How can anyone attack Obama for being inexperienced when Palin is a first term governor with most political experience coming from her stint on city council and mayor of WASILLA that began in '92?

    Yeah, it's a shame. But, at least the right-wingers have that whole "Obama is the Anti-Christ" argument to fall back on.

    ;)
  • At least she's the VP nominee and not the Prez.

    Obama's got less experience than Palin.

    And she knows how to fire a weapon.



    Less experience? Are you serious? At least Obama was a US Senator and not a mayor of a town I've never even heard of where there are probably more Reindeer than people.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    How can anyone attack Obama for being inexperienced when Palin is a first term governor with most political experience coming from her stint on city council and mayor of WASILLA that began in '92?

    The same way Obama attacked McCain's judgment when his VP voted against the Gulf War when Iraq attacked Kuwait. Then voted for the Iraq invasion. And then voted to cut the soldier's funding.

    So does Biden think our attack of Iraq was more justified in 2003 than in 1991?

    How come Obama hasn't questioned Biden's judgment? ;)
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  • Less experience? Are you serious? At least Obama was a US Senator and not a mayor of a town I've never even heard of where there are probably more Reindeer than people.

    She was Gov of Alaska. Obama was a community organizer.

    Oh and he's black! Whoopdee doo
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  • She was Gov of Alaska. Obama was a community organizer.

    Oh and he's black! Whoopdee doo



    What the fuck does that mean? She was elected to the govenor of Alaska in 2006! She is still serving her term.

    What is your problem? Why do you bring up race? There was no reason for that. You just made your argument and yourself look completely uneducated.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    And she knows how to fire a weapon.


    you're sportin' wood, ain't ya cw? ;):D
  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    She was Gov of Alaska. Obama was a community organizer.

    Oh and he's black! Whoopdee doo


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  • Why do you bring up race? There was no reason for that. You just made your argument and yourself look completely uneducated.

    Race is what Obama's campaign is about. I guess you're saying his entire campaign is uneducated.
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  • Race is what Obama's campaign is about. I guess you're saying his entire campaign is uneducated.



    Please explain.
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  • This was a brilliant strategy by McCain. Obama's campaign has already stated that she is inexperienced, and every time they do that, they're shooting themselves in the foot.

    It's so ridiculously stupid for Obama to accuse the VP of the other side of being inexperienced. And every time he does it, McCain will retort:

    Obama. Junior senator for 2 years. Presidential candidate.

    Palin. Governor of the largest state in US for 2 years. Vice[/] presidential candidate.



    If anything, Biden should be the prez candidate and Obama should be the VP. Obama is completely unqualified to be president - the only foreign policy experience he's got is a speech he gave in 2002.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
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  • This was a brilliant strategy by McCain. Obama's campaign has already stated that she is inexperienced, and every time they do that, they're shooting themselves in the foot.

    It's so ridiculously stupid for Obama to accuse the VP of the other side of being inexperienced. And every time he does it, McCain will retort:

    Obama. Junior senator for 2 years. Presidential candidate.

    Palin. Governor of the largest state in US for 2 years. Vice[/] presidential candidate.



    If anything, Biden should be the prez candidate and Obama should be the VP. Obama is completely unqualified to be president - the only foreign policy experience he's got is a speech he gave in 2002.


    So how is Obama's campaign all about race?

    And largest state? In terms of geographic size, yes, population, no.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    At least she's the VP nominee and not the Prez.

    Obama's got less experience than Palin.

    And she knows how to fire a weapon.


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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    This was a brilliant strategy by McCain. Obama's campaign has already stated that she is inexperienced, and every time they do that, they're shooting themselves in the foot.

    It's so ridiculously stupid for Obama to accuse the VP of the other side of being inexperienced. And every time he does it, McCain will retort:

    Obama. Junior senator for 2 years. Presidential candidate.

    Palin. Governor of the largest state in US for 2 years. Vice[/] presidential candidate.



    If anything, Biden should be the prez candidate and Obama should be the VP. Obama is completely unqualified to be president - the only foreign policy experience he's got is a speech he gave in 2002.

    You're doing nothing more than re-iterating talking points. Everytime McCain brings up Obama's lack of experience (which is McCain's chief criticism against Obama, and about the only one has been successful with so far), Obama can easily retort "Senator McCain seems to care so little about the experience he speaks about so much that he put a nominee with less experience than I a heartbeat away from the Presidency of the United States."

    Obama's not running on experience. McCain is, and his VP nominee is bursting that bubble big time.
  • digster wrote:
    Obama's not running on experience. McCain is, and his VP nominee is bursting that bubble big time.

    Exactly. This pick really hurts him on the one area his campaign had the edge.

    How much it will hurt is hard to say, as in the end of the day for the people who care about experience McCain still has much more than Obama.

    So it's just a matter of how many people will consider the completely inexperienced VP who's a 72 year-old man's heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I see the point of that argument, but after all she's the VP choice and not the president.

    (spoken as someone not voting for either candidate)
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    know1 wrote:
    I see the point of that argument, but after all she's the VP choice and not the president.

    (spoken as someone not voting for either candidate)

    I dont see how that makes much of a difference; I mean, what will McCain say if criticized about his VP's lack of experience. "It's not really important, because she probably won't be president" Nobody's voting for Obama due to his extensive Washington experience, but that is the sole reason we should be voting for McCain; his most important campaign decision undermined that notion significantly.
  • know1 wrote:
    I see the point of that argument, but after all she's the VP choice and not the president.

    (spoken as someone not voting for either candidate)

    It won't matter much for people who are firmly behind McCain or Obama, they don't need to weight the VP.

    But for people truly on the fence, the swing voters, they may factor it in.

    Where it hurts the general campaign is that McCain can't continue attacking Obama on experience (the one part of his campaign that was working) as the Obama camp can simply reply that obviously it doesn't matter that much since McCain choose someone even less experienced to be the heart beat of a 72 year old man away from the oval office.
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  • digster wrote:
    Obama's not running on experience.

    Try interviewing for a job and say "you don't need experience to be qualified" for the job.

    LOL
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Try interviewing for a job and say "you don't need experience to be qualified" for the job.

    LOL

    Obama's not running on Washington experience. McCain is.

    Better?

    Bottom line; if Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and McCain's choice of her undoubtedly means that he believes she is, then there is no way he could say that Obama is unqualified with a straight face. The U.S. is not leaning Republican this year, and McCain's only chance seems to be to convince people that Obama is incapable of being president. By endorsing someone with less experience than Obama as being capable, McCain has shot himself in the foot. I don't see how you could respond to this without deluding yourself, but I'm sure you'll do your best.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    This was a brilliant strategy by McCain. Obama's campaign has already stated that she is inexperienced, and every time they do that, they're shooting themselves in the foot.

    It's so ridiculously stupid for Obama to accuse the VP of the other side of being inexperienced. And every time he does it, McCain will retort:

    Obama. Junior senator for 2 years. Presidential candidate.

    Palin. Governor of the largest state in US for 2 years. Vice[/] presidential candidate.



    If anything, Biden should be the prez candidate and Obama should be the VP. Obama is completely unqualified to be president - the only foreign policy experience he's got is a speech he gave in 2002.


    Alaska, largest landmass State with most of it still uninhabited and uninhabitable - Population rounded off 650,000. Most of Alaska is federal land and is controlled by the Department of Interior or under treaties with Native American tribes. The Governor to scores of villages.


    Illinois population rounded off - 12.8 million.

    Obama is a U.S. Senator, as is McCain so demeaning the title for one is the same as the other.
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  • puremagic wrote:
    Alaska, largest landmass State with most of it still uninhabited and uninhabitable - Population rounded off 650,000. Most of Alaska is federal land and is controlled by the Department of Interior or under treaties with Native American tribes. The Governor to scores of villages.


    Illinois population rounded off - 12.8 million.

    Obama is a U.S. Senator, as is McCain so demeaning the title for one is the same as the other.

    lol! Your comparison is bullshit.

    Why are you comparing Palin's state to Obama's state? She the VP and he's the Prez candidate.

    Since BIDEN is Obama's VP pick, why not compare Palin's state to Biden's state?

    Oh, perhaps it's because Delaware's population is 850,000. So, 600,000 Alaskans vs. 850,000 Delawarians. Is that really what matters? 150,000 people?

    Is this election really about state populations? Why do leftist scum have such a disdain for small towns full of white people?

    The Leftist scum hate small town folks and it's going to cost them. Obama's obvious disdain for small town people and their clinging to Bibles and guns is insulting and it will work wonders for the Republican party.

    Palin is excellent. This pick pisses of the leftist scum because it's so brilliant. I hate John McCain, but Palin is a gem.
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  • lol! Your comparison is bullshit.

    Why are you comparing Palin's state to Obama's state? She the VP and he's the Prez candidate.

    Since BIDEN is Obama's VP pick, why not compare Palin's state to Biden's state?

    Oh, perhaps it's because Delaware's population is 850,000. So, 600,000 Alaskans vs. 850,000 Delawarians. Is that really what matters? 150,000 people?

    Is this election really about state populations? Why do leftist scum have such a disdain for small towns full of white people?

    The Leftist scum hate small town folks and it's going to cost them. Obama's obvious disdain for small town people and their clinging to Bibles and guns is insulting and it will work wonders for the Republican party.

    Palin is excellent. This pick pisses of the leftist scum because it's so brilliant. I hate John McCain, but Palin is a gem.

    You're the one who cited her being governor of the country's largest state as an advantage. The counter-point was that population-wise, it's not very big at all and that a lot of the land is under federal control. You're floundering about like a fish out of water here.
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  • She was Gov of Alaska. Obama was a community organizer.

    Oh and he's black! Whoopdee doo

    Come on its not like he was in the PTA. He help rally people to help themselves, I don't understand attacking his public service like that.

    Palin if Governor of a state filled with corruption and she can claim she was not a part of it and unaware. Great claim ignorance. This choice for Repubs is terrible
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    Expect Romney to get very bitchy.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    BOOOM wrote:
    Come on its not like he was in the PTA. He help rally people to help themselves, I don't understand attacking his public service like that.

    Palin if Governor of a state filled with corruption and she can claim she was not a part of it and unaware. Great claim ignorance. This choice for Repubs is terrible

    You know, I just heard the ever-illustrious Sean Hannity throw in "community organizer" along with some other supposedly less odious Obama characteristics. The problem is people are stupid enough to believe this is an insult. Community organizing such as the kind Obama worked on, he help people tackle unemployment issues, lack of adequate housing, organized and engineered voter regisration. In this job, he had to use the skills of building coalitions, reaching across the aisle and convincing people not of his like mind about his convictions and positions, and facing the potential unpopularity and difficult of his endeavors.

    But yeah, none of that has anything to do with being president.
  • You're the one who cited her being governor of the country's largest state as an advantage. The counter-point was that population-wise, it's not very big at all and that a lot of the land is under federal control. You're floundering about like a fish out of water here.

    Nah brah, I said largest as in largest geographic size. And that involves a great deal of executive experience. Alaska isn't your basic New England shithole state - it's got foreign policy issues.

    Ol rights, territorial fishing waters, Russia to its east. Just because it has a small population doesn't mean that running that state is a simple task. Governors must always be great leaders - senators can dabble in DC outside of executive decision-making.

    The person who runs Alaska is a major executive, not a junior senator from Chicago. Obama hasn't done jack - Palin took on corrupt politicians from her own political party.
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  • BOOOM wrote:
    Come on its not like he was in the PTA. He help rally people to help themselves, I don't understand attacking his public service like that.

    Palin if Governor of a state filled with corruption and she can claim she was not a part of it and unaware. Great claim ignorance. This choice for Repubs is terrible

    She challenged corruption in her state. You sound like you need to read a bit more about her.
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