And on the subject of VPs directly, Obama's campaign has actualy gone out of their way to DENY that Hillary Clinton is even in consideration ... and yet that clearly can not be true, if polls are showing that 30% of voters want Hillary on the ticket, with every other VP candidate receiving single digit responses. And what, you think that Obama is so above the influence of pandering, that he isn't going to bring that in to consideration?
That's because the Hillary supporters still haven't gotten over the fact that she lost. Of course Hillary is going to poll the highest numbers - her supporters are still ramming the idea that she deserves to be on the ticket down everyone's throats. The other half of the part is split between several choices (Clark, Biden, Bayh, Sebelius, Kaine) and are indifferent (they'll support any of them). Her polling the highest numbers by far means nothing - every was expecting that. And I doubt the Obama campaign is going to give such sore losers what they want.
You're right.
Obama's camp isn't saying much of dick about dick.
I mean, its one of the most secretive campaigns in modern election history.
And like i said, that should be a dead give away that something is rotten.
When a campaign like Obama's, playing on "hope" and "change", goes to great lenghts to keep its own "inner-circle" advisors in absolute secret from public scrutiny, one should start to wonder. The only reason for that secrecy is because that secret inner circle is most likely made up of the same institutional, belt-way insider shills that every other media-backed elitist owned candidate has had on his staff since who knows when.
They're secretive about it because they have to be...it's his running mate. They're building up the suspense and dancing names in our faces to get us excited. Anticipation is going through the roof trying to figure out who it is - it's a brilliant tactic to get press coverage, get voter response (they drop Bayh, Biden, & Kaine and they see the outrage against Bayh - they don't choose him). They can't make every announcement, decision, and thought public - that would ruin everything. Simply because they're doing so doesn't mean "something's rotten" or they're "Beltway insiders".
Chet Edwards. Take it to the bank. But don't tell the teller I said so, because I am not 100% sure. But still, take it to the bank.
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which is kinda weird since I don't really like Obama and never signed up for email or text updates of the Obama VP search...
Seriously?
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Well if he picks Hillary he's pretty much signing his own death sentence. Literally not politically.
I would rather it be Biden/Obama personally but I do hope Biden is his choice. I still don't know how I'm voting and I usually don't base it on a VP choice but with McCain being fairly old and having had cancer and Obama, sad to say I know, being possibly the first black president there is the very real possibility that the VP could end up being the P.
While I'm not her biggest fan, I can see how it makes some sense...
But it would go against his slogan of "change" and everything new.
But it does make some sense to have her as vp. I think he needs her to win. He needs someone to wear the pants in the white house.
My God ... could you imagine if he actually picked Hillary as his running mate? The right would have a field day:
"He can't even stand up to Hillary Clinton. How is he going to stand up to Vladimir Putin or Achminijad?"
I think Hillary would be a bad, bad choice. Maybe you gain the Hillary supporters (who aren't gonna vote for McCain anyway), but you might lose the vast majority of independents.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
According to Politico today Hillary wasn't even vetted by the Obama camp. She won't be the choice.
While I agree you're probably right that she won't be the choice ... she's basically spent the past 16 years being "vetted." We know all her skeletons.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
very interesting. well, we know now it's not going to be Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine or Evan Bayh.
out of the blue today, the mainstream media throws out the name Chet Edwards.
so although I still see Kathleen Sebelius as a strong possibility, I'm guessing it's gonna be Chet Edwards. it's funny that he represents a district that includes Crawford, TX. but i have no idea what makes this guy a compelling choice because i've never seen him before. very very interesting.
by the way, although i contend that Washington D.C. is incurably corrupt and Barack Obama has no intentions of trying to cure that, and although i have no faith in whomever he will choose, because they're all players in this bogus game of representative government we let them play... I am SO GLAD that Hillary Clinton is not the nominee. because as a media personality, I do not want to have to deal with her. i shut off my cable a few weeks ago, but she would still haunt me on network TV and the internet. really, i would love for her to fall in a black hole so that her particles would dissipate and scatter around the universe never to be reformed again as Hillary Clinton. sames goes with Bubba.
ok, now that i know a little more about Chet Edwards, I'm no longer guessing Obama will pick him:
From Wikipedia:
Edwards voted in favor of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and supports a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He has opposed federal limits on abortion, including the 2003 Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Edwards
i think he would discourage the liberal base too much. so Biden's looking more likely.
Biden is the candidate rumored to be on Obama's short list with the most gravitas.
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That's because the Hillary supporters still haven't gotten over the fact that she lost. Of course Hillary is going to poll the highest numbers - her supporters are still ramming the idea that she deserves to be on the ticket down everyone's throats. The other half of the part is split between several choices (Clark, Biden, Bayh, Sebelius, Kaine) and are indifferent (they'll support any of them). Her polling the highest numbers by far means nothing - every was expecting that. And I doubt the Obama campaign is going to give such sore losers what they want.
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They're secretive about it because they have to be...it's his running mate. They're building up the suspense and dancing names in our faces to get us excited. Anticipation is going through the roof trying to figure out who it is - it's a brilliant tactic to get press coverage, get voter response (they drop Bayh, Biden, & Kaine and they see the outrage against Bayh - they don't choose him). They can't make every announcement, decision, and thought public - that would ruin everything. Simply because they're doing so doesn't mean "something's rotten" or they're "Beltway insiders".
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Or Straight Talk Express. Oh, wait, they still buy into that bullshit.
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But if Clinton somehow gets it, well shit, I guess I vote for Mickey Mouse.
While I'm not her biggest fan, I can see how it makes some sense...
which is kinda weird since I don't really like Obama and never signed up for email or text updates of the Obama VP search...
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I would rather it be Biden/Obama personally but I do hope Biden is his choice. I still don't know how I'm voting and I usually don't base it on a VP choice but with McCain being fairly old and having had cancer and Obama, sad to say I know, being possibly the first black president there is the very real possibility that the VP could end up being the P.
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But it would go against his slogan of "change" and everything new.
But it does make some sense to have her as vp. I think he needs her to win. He needs someone to wear the pants in the white house.
"He can't even stand up to Hillary Clinton. How is he going to stand up to Vladimir Putin or Achminijad?"
I think Hillary would be a bad, bad choice. Maybe you gain the Hillary supporters (who aren't gonna vote for McCain anyway), but you might lose the vast majority of independents.
for the least they could possibly do
While I agree you're probably right that she won't be the choice ... she's basically spent the past 16 years being "vetted." We know all her skeletons.
for the least they could possibly do
very interesting. well, we know now it's not going to be Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine or Evan Bayh.
out of the blue today, the mainstream media throws out the name Chet Edwards.
so although I still see Kathleen Sebelius as a strong possibility, I'm guessing it's gonna be Chet Edwards. it's funny that he represents a district that includes Crawford, TX. but i have no idea what makes this guy a compelling choice because i've never seen him before. very very interesting.
I'm about 99% sure it will be Biden.
That's fine with me, I like Biden.
From Wikipedia:
Edwards voted in favor of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and supports a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He has opposed federal limits on abortion, including the 2003 Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Edwards
i think he would discourage the liberal base too much. so Biden's looking more likely.
for the least they could possibly do
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