Obama's VP

TDMize15TDMize15 Posts: 166
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
Who do you think he will choose?

Who do you think he should choose?

Explain...
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And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
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  • azwyldcatsazwyldcats Posts: 710
    joe biden
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  • TDMize15TDMize15 Posts: 166
    azwyldcats wrote:
    joe biden

    Seems to be the favorite... although I'm not sure he will represent the "change" Barack wants everyone so desperately to believe in?
    All the rusted signs, we ignore throughout our lives, choosing the shiny ones instead...

    And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Biden would be a great choice. Slow reform and gradual restabilization from within the system are key to effective change. I think they'd make a cohesive, intelligent partnership.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
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  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    He will choose Biden. I like Biden, I really enjoy seeing his questioning of the likes of Alberto Gonzo.


    I would like to see him pick Al Gore. I think that would be a great ticket!
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    robbie wrote:
    He will choose Biden. I like Biden, I really enjoy seeing his questioning of the likes of Alberto Gonzo.


    I would like to see him pick Al Gore. I think that would be a great ticket!
    I thought Biden just made it pretty clear, yesterday, he would not run as Vice President?
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Biden would help him win the all important state of Delaware. just having fun... I can see how Biden would be a smart pick for him.

    I get the feeling we're gonna know tomorrow. And I also have a weird feeling he's gonna throw us a curveball.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,300
    I've been hoping he'd pick Biden for some time now!
  • Hillary.

    because you don't expect it,
    and because it probably makes sense to someone.

    who fucking knows.

    i think the fact that Obama's entire campaign is so ridiculously secretive is itself a dead give away that the man is the same canned pre-produced bullshit of a product that everyone who is voting for him thinks they are voting to "change", that it's not even funny. Its amazing how many times it can be said with zero response, but the man is backed by the controlling interests of the Federal Reserve outright. He is bought and sold, folks.
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  • and then there is this:
    Potential Obama VP Is Pro-War, Pro-Patriot Act Neo-Con ...
    The man who many are tipping to become Barack Obama’s running mate is a pro-war, pro-patriot act, Bilderberg member who was an honorary co-chair of the neocon Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group that aggressively propagandized for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Ladies and gentlemen - meet Senator Evan Bayh.

    “Top Democratic Party officials are expecting Sen. Barack Obama to select Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh as his running mate as early as midweek,” according to US News and World Report.

    So exactly where do the sympathies of the Indiana Senator lie and do they jive with Barack Obama’s proclaimed platitude to be offering “change” in the upcoming presidential election?




    According to Wikipedia, “On October 2, 2002, Bayh joined President George W. Bush and Congressional leaders in a Rose Garden ceremony announcing their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War, and was thanked by Bush and Senator John McCain for co-sponsoring the resolution.”

    Not only that, but Bayh served as an honorary co-chair of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq along with John McCain, Obama’s Republican adversary.

    As Talking Points Memo notes, “The Committee is a neo-con group that was formed to propagandize the country into war. It boasted such illustrious neocon members as Bill Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey, and even McCain senior foreign policy adviser and Chalabi-bamboozler Randy Scheunemann.”

    In a February 2006 interview with the Washington Post, Bayh “refused, as some of his fellow Senators already had, to renounce his support for the war”.

    Bayh also voted for the re-authorization of the USA Patriot Act in 2006.

    The Senator is also a keen supporter of the pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC, having previously described his “lifelong affection for the state of Israel” at an AIPAC luncheon.

    Bayh has warned that Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon, despite the National Intelligence Estimate having refuted this claim, and the Senator has also introduced sanctions against Iran, repeatedly denouncing the country with heated rhetoric on national television.

    Bayh is also a Bilderberg Group kingpin, having not only attended its meeting but also giving a keynote speech at their 1999 confab in Sintra, Portugal.

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Bayh is nothing more than another pro-war, pro destruction of the constitution, elitist neocon scumbag. What makes him more dangerous is that he is - just like Obama himself - a wolf in sheep’s clothing, camouflaging himself amidst the mindless rhetoric of “change” while in reality representing nothing more than the status quo.

    in case you think that AJ and his PP staff are once again on crack and in la-la land ... this is no bullshit.
    this Bayh guy IS apparently high in the running. google news search for "evan bayh" ... so there ya go.

    hey.
    who the fuck knows.
    who the fuck cares.
    i can't believe eddie buys in to this fucking shit.
    :cool:
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  • HoonHoon Posts: 175
    It's gonna be Gore.
    If you keep yourself as the final arbiter you will be less susceptible to infection from cultural illusion.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    and then there is this:
    Potential Obama VP Is Pro-War, Pro-Patriot Act Neo-Con ...



    in case you think that AJ and his PP staff are once again on crack and in la-la land ... this is no bullshit.
    this Bayh guy IS apparently high in the running. google news search for "evan bayh" ... so there ya go.

    hey.
    who the fuck knows.
    who the fuck cares.
    i can't believe eddie buys in to this fucking shit.
    :cool:

    Not a single soul from the Obama camp has ever even said Evan was on any short list. It's pure media speculation simply because Bayh is from Indiana, a crucial swing state.

    You are falling victim to things you preach about, false media influence.
  • robbie wrote:
    I would like to see him pick Al Gore. I think that would be a great ticket!


    ugh, In my opinion that would be horrible....
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I don't have a clue but it might be Biden. I ran into him last month at a Martha's Vineyard restaurant in Egartown.

    I'll probably somebody obsecure like Colin Powell, two brothers on the same ticket. That will wake up America for sure. :)

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  • ofthegirl75ofthegirl75 New Jersey Posts: 315
    I was for Edwards until I found out he was a cheating, lying a-hole. Whoever it is they (Obamas camp)better know about every parking ticket, ex-girlfrind etc. and not give McCain any excuse. Look what happened to Kerry.
  • brandon10 wrote:
    Not a single soul from the Obama camp has ever even said Evan was on any short list. It's pure media speculation simply because Bayh is from Indiana, a crucial swing state.

    You are falling victim to things you preach about, false media influence.

    You're right.
    Obama's camp isn't saying much of dick about dick.
    I mean, its one of the most secretive campaigns in modern election history.
    And like i said, that should be a dead give away that something is rotten.

    When a campaign like Obama's, playing on "hope" and "change", goes to great lenghts to keep its own "inner-circle" advisors in absolute secret from public scrutiny, one should start to wonder. The only reason for that secrecy is because that secret inner circle is most likely made up of the same institutional, belt-way insider shills that every other media-backed elitist owned candidate has had on his staff since who knows when.

    And on the subject of VPs directly, Obama's campaign has actualy gone out of their way to DENY that Hillary Clinton is even in consideration ... and yet that clearly can not be true, if polls are showing that 30% of voters want Hillary on the ticket, with every other VP candidate receiving single digit responses. And what, you think that Obama is so above the influence of pandering, that he isn't going to bring that in to consideration?

    Yeah right!

    And as far as "false media influence" goes,
    i guess one has to accept that it is not "false" if it works.
    It would in fact be REAL media influence.
    ;)
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    You're right.
    Obama's camp isn't saying much of dick about dick.
    I mean, its one of the most secretive campaigns in modern election history.
    And like i said, that should be a dead give away that something is rotten.

    When a campaign like Obama's, playing on "hope" and "change", goes to great lenghts to keep its own "inner-circle" advisors in absolute secret from public scrutiny, one should start to wonder. The only reason for that secrecy is because that secret inner circle is most likely made up of the same institutional, belt-way insider shills that every other media-backed elitist owned candidate has had on his staff since who knows when.

    And on the subject of VPs directly, Obama's campaign has actualy gone out of their way to DENY that Hillary Clinton is even in consideration ... and yet that clearly can not be true, if polls are showing that 30% of voters want Hillary on the ticket, with every other VP candidate receiving single digit responses. And what, you think that Obama is so above the influence of pandering, that he isn't going to bring that in to consideration?

    Yeah right!

    And as far as "false media influence" goes,
    i guess one has to accept that it is not "false" if it works.
    It would in fact be REAL media influence.
    ;)

    I guess I see it as false because it didn't work on me. And you see it as real for obvious reasons.

    There are many reasons to be secretive in a campaign, especially when it comes to a VP selection. It's about timing and using the media to garner as much attention as possible while at the same time protecting their candidates. Have you not alredy seen the media campaigning outside Joe Biden's house? It's pure genius. Look how many are already speculating here. If he had just picked someone long ago and was open about it then the media would still be focusing on his name and if him and Michelle were doing terrorist fist jabs.

    But go ahead, keep being paranoid.
  • TDMize15TDMize15 Posts: 166
    He's supposed to appear with his VP choice Saturday... so it looks like tomorrow will be the day.

    I'm hoping for Kathleen Sebelius, but I think it will be Biden, who is also not a bad choice.
    All the rusted signs, we ignore throughout our lives, choosing the shiny ones instead...

    And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    CHESTER, Virginia (AFP) - Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama said in an interview Thursday he had chosen his running mate, and had sought out an independent thinker who was ready to be president.

    The Illinois senator said he wanted a running mate who was "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."

    "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."
    ----

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080821/usa/us_vote_obama_vp

    Of course i'm joking right, no nader.
  • I'd like for it to be Bill Richardson, but I'm SCARED it might be HIllary.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I think he will choose Biden and in my opinion it is a terrible decision.

    Not that I like Obama or McCain, but Obama is supposed to be the anti-war, change candidate that offers hope to a different way of government from the ways we have seen of recent. Biden voted for the war, raising taxes and is merely being added to combat McCain's foreign policy expertise and experience. Adding Biden underminds Obama's mantra of the change he's supposed to be pushing for.
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  • FiveB247x wrote:
    Adding Biden underminds Obama's mantra of the change he's supposed to be pushing for.

    You mean having Zbignew Brzezinski on his advisory staff, and having 4 out of his top 7 largest campaign contributions coming directly from the banks that own the Federal Reserve and a 5th out of that 7 being the largest private equity investment firm\bank in the world wasn't enough to undermind that "mantra of change"?

    Goddamn,
    good thing the man is black,
    or all he would have is his smooth talk ...
    and god knows the people are no longer fooled by smooth talk alone.

    :rolleyes:
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Goddamn,
    good thing the man is black,
    or all he would have is his smooth talk ...
    and god knows the people are no longer fooled by smooth talk alone.

    :rolleyes:
    :rolleyes:
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Yeah I completely agree with you. I disgree whole-heartedly with McCain's notion of government and it's role in the world and feel Obama is just full of shit with his bogus "change" platform.

    The names change but the song remains the same. Our system is broken. Garbage in, garbage out. Failure to prepare is preparing to fail - our elections are a failure to prepare to fix our problems, so of course we see failed results.... but everyone enjoy election day... pull your lever, it means so much.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    MrBrian wrote:
    CHESTER, Virginia (AFP) - Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama said in an interview Thursday he had chosen his running mate, and had sought out an independent thinker who was ready to be president.

    The Illinois senator said he wanted a running mate who was "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."

    "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."
    ----

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080821/usa/us_vote_obama_vp

    Of course i'm joking right, no nader.
    According to Nader, Obama will pick Hillary. Time will tell if he is right i guess.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    depending on his VP choice, I may end up supporting him...
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    _outlaw wrote:
    depending on his VP choice, I may end up supporting him...
    Just curious who you would like to see?
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Just curious who you would like to see?
    everyone who I'd like to see aren't possible candidates... out of the likely people, I guess I'd take Chuck Hagel over the others.

    but I don't like to speculate. I'll just wait to see who he picks, and decide then.

    edit: ok, so I just read that Hagel isn't a likely candidate anymore, hence my point of not speculating :D
  • drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    Seems to be the favorite... although I'm not sure he will represent the "change" Barack wants everyone so desperately to believe in?

    How so? Joe Biden isn't your average, corrupt Washington politician. He is one of the most unique, outspoken, Senators. He still has a strong connection to blue collar workers (he's one of the poorest Senators, commutes home on Amtrak every night to be with his wife, still wears blue jeans and drives a pick-up truck, Catholic, doesn't own a half-dozen homes and can remember that). His son is about to be sent to Iraq - something that Bush, Cheney, McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and others can't say. Simply because someone has an impressive resume doesn't mean they can't bring change to Washington. Experience does not nullify change.

    There isn't a better choice for Obama to make than to choose Joe Biden as his running mate.
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  • drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    I thought Biden just made it pretty clear, yesterday, he would not run as Vice President?

    When he said "I'm not the guy?" That means nothing, really. First, he might not have been notified at that point that he was the choice. He later came out to say that he "hadn't heard anything", which is not surprising if he is the pick.

    Also, with all the speculation that has been built up to see who Obama & McCain choose as their running-mates, how would the Obama camp feel if it got ruined by the choice telling a single reporter at the edge of his drive-way, while in jeans and a dress shirt about to drive away in a truck, "Yeah, I'm the guy - Obama choose me to be his running mate. See ya later."

    Anyone - 'the guy' or 'not the guy' will say that he's 'not the guy' until Obama chooses to announce it.
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