No Communion for Obama Supporters

anotherclone

I think Catholics are big on "guilt" in general. I mean, you hear people joke about it all the time. But do they believe in guilt by association?

Jeremy1012

This guy has no business having a forum to disseminate his beliefs to people who look up to him, not while espouses such profoundly retarded opinions.

polaris

Mrs_Vedder78 wrote:

to be honest with you it wasn't really that hard.
I mean I didn't really wake up one morning and decided that I wasn't catholic.
it started in junior year when i started questioning many of the things the catholic church stood for and I didn't like those stances.

As time went by more and more things started bothering me about the church and the way they viewed things and it just didn't go with the person I was it was gradual and until I was completely gone from the catholic church.

interesting ... it did take a while tho ... what i'm trying to get at is that looking at it now - it's obvious you are not a catholic ... but yet i see so many people taht shouldn't be either but they continue to call themselves that ... and for many continue to let the church dictate a lot of their thoughts ...

Mrs.Vedder78

polaris wrote:

interesting ... it did take a while tho ... what i'm trying to get at is that looking at it now - it's obvious you are not a catholic ... but yet i see so many people taht shouldn't be either but they continue to call themselves that ... and for many continue to let the church dictate a lot of their thoughts ...

Yeah I see your point.
I have met many people that have told me they are Catholic because they were brought up that way but they dont really practice or go to church ..though because the church says abortion is wrong and gays are evil then they think so too.

In my case yeah it took a while, I would say 2-3 years from the time I was finishing high school til I was out to realize that I did not want to be part of the Catholic Church and that i seriously questioned whether God exists or not.

I guess you could call me an atheist.

marino13

Here is a quote I love from Jim Wallis, author of God's Politics. This was part of a rant in response to some similar sentiments put out by James Dobson.

"You make a mistake when you assume that younger Christians don’t care as much as you about the sanctity of life. They do care—very much—but they have a more consistent ethic of life. Both broader and deeper, it is inclusive of abortion, but also of the many other assaults on human life and dignity. For the new generation, poverty, hunger, and disease are also life issues; creation care is a life issue; genocide, torture, the death penalty, and human rights are life issues; war is a life issue. What happens to poor children after they are born is also a life issue."

And here is a link to his blog with some great articles, which contains none of the stereotypical intolerance you hear out of some of the most vocal Christian leaders. This is a movement that is gaining momentum among Christians, especially younger people of faith who are sick of the crap and want to actually take back their faith, follow Christ's teachings and not be represented by a bunch of fear mongering right wingers. There is still hope!!!

http://www.sojo.net/blog/godspolitics/

Jason P

To be perfectly honest, the bread tastes like cardboard and the communal wine is a great place to spread germs. I don’t feel like he is really punishing these people. He should threaten them to have a double communion if they voted for Obama.

blondieblue227

Maicojames wrote:

Is this really suprising to anyone?

not me.
yawn #2

decides2dream

also, the issue to me is that while i 100% support the right for all to hold their own belief systems and practice such, i think a more tolerant 'nation-wide' view of the fact that many, many people in this country are NOT catholic, thus do not believe or follow the same dogma...and thus have the right to make their own choices, and laws should be based on what's best for ALL. supporting obama as a president, imo, does NOT run counter to one being a 'good catholic.' one who is catholic can still choose not to support or choose abortion for themselves, but also believe it's the right for others to make their own choice on the issue. supporting the idea that our government should reflect our own personal religious beliefs i think is wrong, and also runs counter to what our country was founded on. so yes....i just don't get it.



i know of many 'good catholics' who voted for obama. he is the greater good, will more than likely save more lives by ending the war sooner, more judicious decisions, and sure...supports education and prevention for sex, which should help reduce abortion, overall....all good, life-affirming things.

roar

MattyJoe wrote:

This is ONE PRIEST. He is not a Bishop, or a Cardinal, or the Pope. He does not reflect an official Church position at this time.

Agreed.

I'm Catholic and I understand the difficulty in voting for a Democrat or a Republican when neither aligns with your beliefs on: human life, family life, social justice and global solidarity. Any "separation of church and state" ideology does NOT force me to abandon my central moral convictions when voting. I can, do and will continue to vote with my conscience. Why would we not be allowed to vote for what we believe is the common good (just as you do)?

I believe that all life is sacred. I apply that to the way that I vote and there's nothing wrong with that. However, there are many serious moral issues for Catholics beyond abortion: the death penalty, resorting to unjust war, the use of torture, war crimes, the environment, the failure to respond to those who are suffering from hunger, lack of health care, and unjust immigration policies. Although there may have been some exceptions (e.g. this article) amongst individuals, the 60 million Catholics in America are NOT told who to vote for by the Church. We ARE told to vote with our consciences. But doesn't everyone? I hope so.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I take my Obama communion every morning.

I access it with my TV remote.

Makes my my brain go all numb and fuzzy.

miraculous.