If Obama doesn't win the election
Thecure
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will the american public blame McCain or themselves. some people here have said that mcCain has not talked about issues while Obama has. if mcCain does win the election without talking about issues what does that say about the american public?
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There was a journalist on Morning Joe this morning saying that basically McCain's strategy lately (and what they've had success with), is just flooding the media with as much stuff as they can, with no regards to it's accuracy. They have learned that there are no penalties to putting out false or inaccurate info, so they will keep going with it.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
And you're not leaving here without me, I don't wanna be without
My best... friend. Wake up, to see you could have it all
it says what i've suspected for too long. americans are not very bright, are very lazy, and have no attention span for anything other than paparrazzi style soundbytes and histrionic "journalism" like the lipstick nonsense.
Those are some truth filled words right there!!!
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
Obama can not lose this election.
I am almost to a point that things are so fucked up right now that I feel like fine, if they win they deserve this bullshit they created.. let them clean up this fucking mess... but then I realize how much more fucked up they can get it and realize we, as Americans will be the ones paying the price for 4 more years of bullshit decisions and I carry on the fight!
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
It was really hard to accept after 2000, and 2004 elections.
But...there is just too much at stake this time around.
We have to change course here and get back on track.
A McCain presidency would be a complete disaster.
But then if you look at the middle of this country, it's all Republicans. Even after 8 years of this crap. It boggles my mind, but I guess it's "not about the issues" as McCain's campaign says.
If McCain wins, there is a part of me that thinks it is just the inevitable decline of this country. You know, all great powers rise and fall. We may have hit our peak in the 80's or something. It might be a pessimistic view, but if this is what our country wants, this is what it gets.
Yeah, I know. I was troubled by a column in last week's paper in Philly that said this:
If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/fatimah_ali/20080902_Fatimah_Ali__We_need_Obama__not_4_more_years_of_George_Bush.html
I would like to think that won't happen but who knows what will happen after election day.
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- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
yeah, those niggers are animals and just can't control themselves :rolleyes:
Then I was also told this is just fear mongering.
I thought only the GOP was allowed to fear monger
what is this saying? that these families were threatening to riot if he lost? or that they told you it was bullshit and you just believe it anyway?
No, it's just poor people talking and it just doesn't matter at all what I believe.
I can say that some of the most vocal are very emotional already when they consider the potential for a McCain victory.
http://www.break.com/pictures/making-politics-simple569680.html
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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You're kidding right? Almost everything the Obama campaign has floated about Palin since the convention has been a lie, or at best, a distorted half-truth.
for the least they could possibly do
hahahah!...
How many electoral votes does Europe count for? Surely, if Obama wins Europe, it ought to be able to carry him to the White House ...
sheesh.
for the least they could possibly do
then explain to me how this bbq is proof to you that we should all avoid the inner city if mccain wins?
Right, nice response. I love how there are still people who think it doesn't matter how the rest of the world sees things. Because this country is the greatest country in the world, right? Jesus, it's like we're back in 1955. Coca Cola and James Dean, and who cares what the rest of the world thinks about our politics.
So you're saying you'd make choices based on how Europeans would perceive you? Weird. I make choices based on principle but I guess different people have different criteria.
Europe is a pretty fucked up place, governmentally. Most of the countries there border on socialist. I wouldn't want my country to be governed in the manner Europe is.
They also can't deal effectively with crisis. Look at the response to Russia-Georgia ... in the end, it basically boiled down to, "Uh ... Hey, Russia, would you pretty please not invade sovreign nations anymore? We'd really appreciate it. And if you do, we're going to ask you not to again, only using slightly more stern language."
I don't want any of that for America.
So if Europe thinks a candidate would be a great president ... well, that's probably a sign I shouldn't vote for him.
So, in that regard, thanks Europe, for the recommendation!
The other thing: I don't think the average man on the street in Europe knows anything about the two candidates, other the caracitures they've been fed through their notoriously left-wing media ... Of course, I don't know much about their candidates either, which is why I generally don't open my trap about who the people of, say, France should choose to be their leader.
for the least they could possibly do
What choices? You mean voting?
Fortunately, I don't have to because I happen to agree with the rest of the world. But if you are asking if international law is something we should comply with, the answer is yes. If you are asking whether we should continue to isolate ourselves from the global community, the answer is no. Like it or not, the world is getting smaller. What other countries think matters. The old approach ("This is Amurrica. Fuck France", etc.) has to end.
Yes, our president should work with other nations once in office, to find compromise and common ground where feasible.
That doesn't mean I think we should take into account who Europe wants us to pick when going to the polls. That's just asinine.
for the least they could possibly do
You are right. The world is different now from the 50s and 60s.
I mean if JFK delivered his inaugural address today he'd be called a religious zealot.
The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.
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Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own.
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres56.html
- 8/28/98
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- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
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- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Yeah and ignoring world opinion on Bush circa 2005 really helped us too.
This thread was talking about the aftermath of a McCain win. That's what I was talking about. I am not telling people to take Europe "into account" when going to the polls. I am just pointing out, correctly I believe, that a McCain win will continue to degrade our relationship with the rest of the world. I think it is a valid point.
"poor people got to have hope... The man don't care anymore, he just wants to sell us off, sell us beer, cigarettes, keep us drunk and high... They know all we got is our family, each other....our children".
"they want to send our children off to fight a war... for what??... oil?"
"then we ain't got nothin... nothin but hope"
"to us...Barack Obama is all we have to be hopeful about.... but you probably don't understand that..."
"a poor man with children to feed...hungry children...crying babies...is going to get drunk ....then he gonna steal even though he knows it's wrong."
"Two poor men are gonna rob and steal... And 3 poor men are gonna rob and steal and make plans..."
"you take a whole bunch of poor folk...they gonna burn this place to the ground..."
And
"white people don't understand...black people communicate with their eyes...they can tell who to trust without saying a word...
Have you ever been in prison? Then you'd know this is fact...
Prisons were meant to keep the people inside... But you take 10-20 brothers that wanna bust someone out.... They ain't got no plans for that"
"you put 15 well armed brothers in the back of this grain truck and smash it thru the prison gates... We can set every body free before they can call they momma"
If by "free" they mean everyone will get killed and set free, then whoever said this may be right.