Legalized Marijuana

boxwine_in_hell

catefrances wrote:

it shouldn't open the door. we're talking about a PLANT for fuck's sake. it grows anywhere. why shouldn't it be legal? or more to the point, WHY is it ILLEGAL?

I'm going to have to quote the late, great Bill Hicks here.

"Doesn't making something that grows naturally all over the planet, against the law seem.....I don't know....unnatural?"

catefrances

MahoganySouls wrote:

Opium is a plant derivitive as well. Should it be legal too?

if it is consumed in its NATURAL state then i'd have to say yes. oh and you said DERIVATIVE. that's not natural now is it?

MahoganySouls

The message was this Que in case you missed it..."There is a very valid argument that MJ is less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. So, let's imagine that cannibis is legalized. Would that be enough? Or would it open the door for other, harder, addictive drugs to be legalized?" followed by "So then would you agree to laws against driving or working while high on MJ? It does impair judgement like alcohol. So therefore wouldn't be safe to indulge and drive and wouldn't belong in the work place"

Broken down to simple language:
1. MJ effects the brain and alters perception and/or behavior. As does alcohol.
2. We already have laws regarding acceptable alcohol use. These should apply to legalized MJ use as well.

End of story. Stop trying to read into something that isn't there.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

The message was this Que in case you missed it..."There is a very valid argument that MJ is less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. So, let's imagine that cannibis is legalized. Would that be enough? Or would it open the door for other, harder, addictive drugs to be legalized?" followed by "So then would you agree to laws against driving or working while high on MJ? It does impair judgement like alcohol. So therefore wouldn't be safe to indulge and drive and wouldn't belong in the work place"

Broken down to simple language:
1. MJ effects the brain and alters perception and/or behavior. As does alcohol.
2. We already have laws regarding acceptable alcohol use. These should apply to legalized MJ use as well.

End of story. Stop trying to read into something that isn't there.

I'm asking you, are you saying your message then is, "don't smoke pot and drive!"

woopdeefucking doo

troll.

Anon

catefrances wrote:

it shouldn't open the door. we're talking about a PLANT for fuck's sake. it grows anywhere. why shouldn't it be legal? or more to the point, WHY is it ILLEGAL?

i know. i don't get it either. there are hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths each year, yet there has never been a marijuana overdose death in history.

alcohol = legal, pot = illegal. makes no sense at all.

Collin

There's not a single reason why marijuana should be illegal. It's a plant, making it illegal makes you a fascist.

MahoganySouls wrote:

So then would you agree to laws against driving or working while high on MJ? It does impair judgement like alcohol. So therefore wouldn't be safe to indulge and drive and wouldn't belong in the work place.

Yes. One glass of wine won't have much effect on your driving skills, I think. And, in most cases, it won't make you a danger in the work place. However, if you drink a bottle of wine, chances are a little higher. Same thing goes for marijuana, in my opinion.

I don't really care what laws they make, but making a plant illegal is ridiculous. If anyone can give me one good reason why I shouldn't be able to light a joint in my backyard when I please?

jlew24asu

I don't know if I would support totally legalizing it, but it is absolutely ridiculous thats its not used for medical purposes.

Drowned Out

MahoganySouls wrote:

The message was this Que in case you missed it..."There is a very valid argument that MJ is less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. So, let's imagine that cannibis is legalized. Would that be enough? Or would it open the door for other, harder, addictive drugs to be legalized?"

I would hope so. But unfortunately, I think I’m in the minority on that….so…if the democratic process was allowed to do it’s thing…then no.

MahoganySouls wrote:

followed by "So then would you agree to laws against driving or working while high on MJ? It does impair judgement like alcohol. So therefore wouldn't be safe to indulge and drive and wouldn't belong in the work place"

I don’t support any form of pre-incident drug testing…but if a test were developed that measured impairment caused by mj, not just levels in your blood, I wouldn’t have a problem with that test being administered to suspect drivers, or to people with hazardous occupations (should the company make it policy).

Boston MA

MahoganySouls wrote:

Opium is a plant derivitive as well. Should it be legal too?

Mahogany Souls once again shows, they haven't the foggiest idea of what they are talking about.

Poppy, the plant that is used to make opium is 100% legal! As long you don't grow it to make heroin.

Boston MA

Drowned Out wrote:

I would hope so. But unfortunately, I think I’m in the minority on that….so…if the democratic process was allowed to do it’s thing…then no.

I don’t support any form of pre-incident drug testing…but if a test were developed that measured impairment caused by mj, not just levels in your blood, I wouldn’t have a problem with that test being administered to suspect drivers, or to people with hazardous occupations (should the company make it policy).

65%+ of Americans want to see cannabis decriminalized, we are the strong majority. We typically get 65-70% of voters to vote for it in Mass.

Drowned Out

Boston, MA wrote:

65%+ of Americans want to see cannabis decriminalized, we are the strong majority. We typically get 65-70% of voters to vote for it in Mass.

As we should be! I should have been more clear...When I said I would hope so, I was referring to the second part of the question, where she asked if it would lead to harder drugs being legalized.

catefrances

Boston, MA wrote:

Mahogany Souls once again shows, they haven't the foggiest idea of what they are talking about.

Poppy, the plant that is used to make opium is 100% legal! As long you don't grow it to make heroin.

no one said they weren't. and thanks for illustrating my point further.

Bu2

*runs into thread*

Legalized marijuana? Where?! Where?!!

*reads entire thread*

Oh.

*leaves*

catefrances

Bu2 wrote:

*runs into thread*

Legalized marijuana? Where?! Where?!!

*reads entire thread*

Oh.

*leaves*

come back Bu, come back and join the scooby gang.

Bu2

Where are you?

catefrances

Bu2 wrote:

Where are you?

over here........ dont forget the scooby snacks.

Bu2

if you bring the drinks....over to gabbly?

Where's the link?

Bu2

There it is:

http://www.gabbly.com/forums.pearljam.com/

onelongsong

legalize for those over 21 just like alcohol. tax it like alcohol and pay off the national debt.

Bu2

It's just a plant....a weed, no pun intended.

As I've said before, the benefits of hemp are many.