Obama calls Grandmother.....

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  • RainDog wrote:
    So it's not true? Would it have been better if the line read "She's typical of her generation, who, you know...."

    The whole country is slipping over the race issue, like it or not.

    Most people don't have a problem if they hear one of their friends say about someone else, "oh, he's this black person I know" or "he's this Asian person I know." But "oh, he's this white person I know"? To many, that sounds a little jarring, as Obama's quote proves.


    I would avoid the whole ting like the plague, but they got the dirt on his pastor so up the flagpole it goes...

    but geez I would stop verbally adding to it if I were him...
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    I would avoid the whole ting like the plague, but they got the dirt on his pastor so up the flagpole it goes...

    but geez I would stop verbally adding to it if I were him...
    Yes, he broke the general rule that "white is neutral, and therefore shouldn't be mentioned." It was a "mistake", a "gaff." But think about why is was a mistake or a gaff.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    cornnifer wrote:
    Oh, please.
    When Obama's grandmother was young, being fearful of a black guy walking down the street was in fact a VERY typical white response. Acknowledging racism doesn't make one a racist.

    how is being afraid of one group of people being a racist???

    im afraid of snakes, am i a snake racist?

    the fact of the matter as Obama explained it but of course you wont bring it up is that his grandmother was afraid of the crime that african americans were committing at the time and she was afraid of that...did you miss that part?

    and to say "typical white person" is racist, no matter how you spin it

    Obama has a stronghold on alot of you that is scary...
  • cornnifer wrote:
    Bullfuckingshit. i just got through saying that a week a go, i wouldn't have thought an Obama loss we be because of racism. Disagree with his political platform and i can't accuse you of racism (just of being unimformed ;) ). THIS line of attacks is racist. Period. And it comes straight from the spiral notebook of guys like hannity who have been blabbing about this stupid, racist, bullshit for a fucking year now.

    I am in no way racist and I posted this

    I just don't believe Obama is the Messiah sent to save us all

    Maybe, just maybe you will wake from your Obama slumber and see what he's all about

    Till then, you will keep going down with the ship
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    pjalive21 wrote:
    how is being afraid of one group of people being a racist???

    im afraid of snakes, am i a snake racist?

    the fact of the matter as Obama explained it but of course you wont bring it up is that his grandmother was afraid of the crime that african americans were committing at the time and she was afraid of that...did you miss that part?

    and to say "typical white person" is racist, no matter how you spin it

    Obama has a stronghold on alot of you that is scary...

    First of all Obama didn't say the typical white person is racist. Not even close. You are the one spinning it
    Second of all, are you suggesting that all crime was being committed by African Americans?
    i'm terrified of spiders. Scared to death of them. Absolutely phobic. Your analogy works against you because my fear of spiders and yours of snakes, is irrational. In indicates a one sided prejudicial view of spiders and snakes, respectively, and a general misunderstanding of snakes and spiders.
    Finally, you know this shit has gotten out of hand when guys at fox news, of all places, start walking of the set because of it.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mayhem-at-fox-news-ancho_n_92743.html
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    I am in no way racist

    i disagree.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    cornnifer wrote:
    First of all Obama didn't say the typical white person is racist. Not even close. You are the one spinning it
    Second of all, are you suggesting that all crime was being committed by African Americans?
    i'm terrified of spiders. Scared to death of them. Absolutely phobic. Your analogy works against you because my fear of spiders and yours of snakes, is irrational. In indicates a one sided prejudicial view of spiders and snakes, respectively, and a general misunderstanding of snakes and spiders.
    Finally, you know this shit has gotten out of hand when guys at fox news, of all places, start walking of the set because of it.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mayhem-at-fox-news-ancho_n_92743.html


    you lost all credibility using the huffington post!!!!!!!

    he used the "typical white person" analogy referencing white people during that period of time, but to say that every white person was like that is assasine...yeah there was racism, i dont deny that at all, but to group all white people in like that is wrong

    using words like typical, most, all, majority...you get the point is setting yourself up for trouble especially when you dont have facts and figures to back it up
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    pjalive21 wrote:
    you lost all credibility using the huffington post!!!!!!!

    he used the "typical white person" analogy referencing white people during that period of time, but to say that every white person was like that is assasine...yeah there was racism, i dont deny that at all, but to group all white people in like that is wrong

    using words like typical, most, all, majority...you get the point is setting yourself up for trouble especially when you dont have facts and figures to back it up

    The link wasn't to a huffington post opinion piece. It was a simple news article. At least one anchor walked off the set and another chastised the network in response to their biased spin of this shit. When the guys at FOX NEWS respond this way, you know it has gotten out of hand.
    Its a news story. Not an opinion piece. The fact that huffington post is the host to this particular link doesn't make it less news worthy.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    cornnifer wrote:

    Thanks for the link. I hadn't heard this, yet.

    I chalk up "typical white person" to a Bushism. It was a silly thing to say, and as Chris Wallace said in one of the clips above, he probably wouldn't say it again, but he didn't mean it the way it sounded out of context.
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  • cornnifer wrote:
    i disagree.

    well you would be wrong

    ....as usual
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    He said "typical white person"???? OMG RACIST!!!! He clearly hates white people! When he's president he'll deport all whites to other countries!!!!!!!111

    :rolleyes:

    This is getting tiresome.
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  • DOSW wrote:
    He said "typical white person"???? OMG RACIST!!!! He clearly hates white people! When he's president he'll deport all whites to other countries!!!!!!!111

    :rolleyes:

    This is getting tiresome.

    ...but if I say typical Black Person then I'm a racist

    cmon

    the shoes on the other foot now
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    DOSW wrote:
    He said "typical white person"???? OMG RACIST!!!! He clearly hates white people! When he's president he'll deport all whites to other countries!!!!!!!111

    :rolleyes:

    This is getting tiresome.

    Geraldine Ferraro gets fired and what happens to Obama???
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    pjalive21 wrote:
    Geraldine Ferraro gets fired and what happens to Obama???
    He becomes the subject of negative story after negative story. Still, it's his campaign, and I don't think he's going to fire himself.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    pjalive21 wrote:
    Geraldine Ferraro gets fired and what happens to Obama???


    I don't even have time for this stupidity!!!! You must lead a sad existence.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    pjalive21 wrote:
    Geraldine Ferraro gets fired and what happens to Obama???

    First of all Geraldine Ferraro wasn't fired. She voluntarily stepped down as an act of complete showmanship and so she could keep running her mouth without people being able to directly link clinton to it. Next, i think you're right. Obama should be fired from his OWN CAMPAIGN :rolleyes:
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifer wrote:
    First of all Geraldine Ferraro wasn't fired. She voluntarily stepped down as an act of complete showmanship and so she could keep running her mouth without people being able to directly link clinton to it. Next, i think you're right. Obama should be fired from his OWN CAMPAIGN :rolleyes:

    How could you even go about firing yourself?

    note: must consult Dr Phil and Donald Trump on this one
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    How could you even go about firing yourself?

    note: must consult Dr Phil and Donald Trump on this one

    i'm not the one that suggested Obama should be fired. You definitely need to consult SOMEONE.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifer wrote:
    Obama should be fired from his OWN CAMPAIGN

    those are your words, aren't they?
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    those are your words, aren't they?

    You never cease to surprise me. It was in reference to someone else suggesting Ferraro was fired but Obama wasn't. Let me say this slow so you can follow:

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    My five year old understands the concept.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    long red wrote:
    judging others based on unfounded evidence is what we, as a society, do the best.

    so stop whining about all this useless racial bullshit and move the fuck on.

    that sounds more like stereotyping than racism. We all stereotype but that doesn't equate to racism.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    long red wrote:
    guess what folks, the typical white person IS a fucking racist.

    as is the typical black person, mexican person, croatian person, icelandic person, japanese person, etc, etc, etc, etc ...

    judging others based on unfounded evidence is what we, as a society, do the best.

    so stop whining about all this useless racial bullshit and move the fuck on.

    you nailed it... short and sweet
  • cornnifer wrote:
    You never cease to surprise me. It was in reference to someone else suggesting Ferraro was fired but Obama wasn't. Let me say this slow so you can follow:

    SARCASM



    My five year old understands the concept.

    can you say "reverse discrimination"?

    cmon

    i know you see how wrong it is to call anyone a "typical" anything

    just generalizations

    but if i say a "typical black man" then i'm racist

    fuk that shit

    so in conclusion i would like to say Obama in my opinion is a "typical black man", all bark and no bite

    swallow that..........
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  • down_skidown_ski Posts: 328
    I think Geraldine Ferraro statements were accurate. Hilary and Obama have the SAME exact stance on most issues. Right now, its just a popularity contest and Barack was winning, and now...i have no idea whats going to happen.

    And about his Grandmother, i just think he should have focused on his crazy reverend rather than bring his white grandmother into this speech. It was just....out of context.
  • to lighten up the mood on the race relations subject:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEzGIuY7kw
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  • long red wrote:
    everybody, no matter the color or origin, holds their race above other races. it is a natural and necessary force in the forward movement of human beings. it's inescapable. it's completely fucking ludicrous, but it exists within every living person. as a whole, we are insecure and nervous creatures, therefore, we are comforted by holding onto the belief that "we" are better than "them."


    I disagree with this premise. If that WERE the case, why am I constantly lectured that I owe black folks a "crutch" in the form of affirmative action and I ought to feel guilty b/c more blacks are imprisoned b/c they have an inferiority complex based on the color of their skin. Yes, that's why they turn to crime in more numbers and more live in poverty. Please....
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Bump for Spinbrett :(
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