In My Opinion

Commy

Im still here wrote:

don't forget things can change for the worse

....not for the better

(maybe that's what he means)

maybe that's what he means by Redeployment

War with Iran and Pakistan

wouldn't that be a change?

we'll see how much of a Hawk Obama is.

Its really a sad state of affairs. The Iraq war should have been a central issue this election. Instead its simply "change". What change he will bring is the question. I have little faith in the corporate candidates. Business as usual.

Im still here

like i said in my original post, this is not an option

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oj_YtY-EZQ

DriftingByTheStorm

Im still here wrote:

my point is his mantra is Change

where's the Change?

In your hand.

If Obama has his way, and implements massively inflationary entitlement programs, while continuing this war (okay okay, pulling out "orderly" ... which i read as SLOW AS ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................)

... if he does that ...

the change will be what is left in your hand after the rest of your dollar's value dissapears in thin air.

You will be left holding some nickles and dimes,
and going ... "Change!"
"yes we can!"

WOO HOO!

MasterFramer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

In your hand.

If Obama has his way, and implements massively inflationary entitlement programs, while continuing this war (okay okay, pulling out "orderly" ... which i read as SLOW AS ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................)

... if he does that ...

the change will be what is left in your hand after the rest of your dollar's value dissapears in thin air.

You will be left holding some nickles and dimes,
and going ... "Change!"
"yes we can!"

WOO HOO!

Drifting... "end the war in 2009"... come on man...

Urban Hiker

boxwine_in_hell wrote:

Pretty much any intelligent person you ask would say that W has been a disaster as a President, even the schmucks in his own party have conceded this. I really don't see what's so bad about Obama. He actually seems like a fairly enlightened soul compared to the other candidates.

Obama does come across as enlightened and he can certainly inspire a crowd. He delivers speaches very well, but to me it seems like feel good rhetoric. I can't envision his plan for America, because what I've heard of it is so vague and open to subjective interpretation.

I fear that everybody is hearing what they want to hear from a very eloquent and impassioned speaker. I admire the way he has been able to inspire enthusiasm in our nation, but at the end of the day I want somebody in office who is ready for the job.

I am concerned that the Republicans will chew Obama up and spit him out if he ends up being the Democratic candidate. I do not want another Republican in office.

I am fortunate to live in an area that votes 83% Democrat no matter who is on the ballot. So come election day I have the luxury of voting for who I'd really like to see as President (in my little utopian world), even if I have to write it in.

I wish luck to all of you voting in nailbiter-down-to-the-last-vote areas.

melodious

aNiMaL wrote:

All candidates are funded by corporate America.

The rest of your post was a puff piece stating your feelings.

obama is very popular in the under 30 crowd...i just don't think he is empathetic towards immigration...

support small business and get the corporate vote out....


try reading my signature; this cat's a real winner....write in your option...

i voted for Dennis...vote your conscious; forget the rest...


your vote doesn't matter in the big sea of sharks, but universally and other ways, our thoughts come back to us...do we want to have erratic wave patterns bashing at us? or do we want to surf those waves...?

cornnifer

Im still here wrote:

so what you are saying is critical thinking isn't worth your time

just keep believing what the Mainstream Media tells you to believe ok

maybe our IQ as a Nation will slip another few points, who cares anyway, right?

You seem to have an obsession with IQ. First of all, i question yours is as high as you claim. For the sake of discussion, lets say yours is, as you claim, above average (still lower than mine ), allow me to reiterate IQ MEANS JACK SHIT! It doesn't mean a damn thing and is in no way a true indicator of actual intelligence. What is much more telling are the words and ideas that come out of one's metaphorical mouth, and you, to be brutally honest, really sell yourself short.

cornnifer

Urban Hiker wrote:

Obama does come across as enlightened and he can certainly inspire a crowd. He delivers speaches very well, but to me it seems like feel good rhetoric. I can't envision his plan for America, because what I've heard of it is so vague and open to subjective interpretation.

I fear that everybody is hearing what they want to hear from a very eloquent and impassioned speaker. I admire the way he has been able to inspire enthusiasm in our nation, but at the end of the day I want somebody in office who is ready for the job.

I am concerned that the Republicans will chew Obama up and spit him out if he ends up being the Democratic candidate. I do not want another Republican in office.

I am fortunate to live in an area that votes 83% Democrat no matter who is on the ballot. So come election day I have the luxury of voting for who I'd really like to see as President (in my little utopian world), even if I have to write it in.

I wish luck to all of you voting in nailbiter-down-to-the-last-vote areas.

Here we go again. Somebody explain to me when charisma, and superb articulation skills became a flaw and liability. The content is there. This is a dumb argument.

Im still here

cornnifer wrote:

Here we go again. Somebody explain to me when charisma, and superb articulation skills became a flaw and liability. The content is there. This is a dumb argument.

what content?

change, change, change?

I wanna see a real plan for change

not just words repeated over and over

cornnifer

Im still here wrote:

what content?

change, change, change?

I wanna see a real plan for change

not just words repeated over and over

The content is there. The plan is there. Pull your head out of Ron Paul's butthole and listen.

Im still here

Im still here wrote:

maybe your IQ isn't as high as you think it is

read it and weep

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

funny how you never answered this back........

I fail to see how you are smart at all, IQ aside

are you able to follow along with the conversation?

Im still here

cornnifer wrote:

The content is there. The plan is there. Pull your head out of Ron Paul's butthole and listen.

link to this magical plan you speak of.........

source please.......

or just more empty words from someone sold on a charismatic man who can't pontificate his plan for change

Im still here

My opinion is backed up by facts, not just false fantasies of change

if you only watch the first 2 minutes of this you will see Obama is Pro War

in his own words he states this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdHd3TXruc

The National Intelligence report clearly states that Iran has suspended it's Nuclear Program and is not a threat to us in the least

but Obama clearly says, "I am not going to Nuke anyone, RIGHT NOW."

the words that scare me are right now, so that means maybe later?

use your critical thinking skills, open up your mind and weigh the facts, he is not about change, he is about more of the same

have you even listened to what "Your Man" has actually said?

cornnifer

Im still here wrote:

funny how you never answered this back........

I fail to see how you are smart at all, IQ aside

are you able to follow along with the conversation?

Link doesn't seem to work for me. i will say, however, though i admittedly cannot review the link, that an internet website titled "opensecrets.org" reeks to me of bullshit journalism. Any jackass can put up a website and fill it with false material in attempt to pass it off as truth. It takes a special kind of jackass, however, to believe everything they dig up on the fucking web.
i will also say that senator Obama has made public his tax returns for fuck's sake. Something cunton seems to be refusing to do. He apparently has nothing to hide in regards to this issue.

cornnifer

Im still here wrote:

My opinion is backed up by facts, not just false fantasies of change

if you only watch the first 2 minutes of this you will see Obama is Pro War

in his own words he states this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdHd3TXruc

The National Intelligence report clearly states that Iran has suspended it's Nuclear Program and is not a threat to us in the least

but Obama clearly says, "I am not going to Nuke anyone, RIGHT NOW."

the words that scare me are right now, so that means maybe later?

use your critical thinking skills, open up your mind and weigh the facts, he is not about change, he is about more of the same

have you even listened to what "Your Man" has actually said?

You're kidding me, right, your "proof" and "facts" are small soundbytes carefully edited together on a fucking YouTube video?! First of all, there is absolutely no context to any of that shit. Its just a bunch of soundbytes put together, probably by some Paultard, in a weak ass attempt to distort the truth and convince thre easily convinced such as yourself. Besides, would you tell me that Iran with a nuclear weapon is NOT a threat to parts of the world including the United States? That's just a common sense statement. It's in no way "beating the war drum". Nor is it warmongering to say that options are not "taken off the table" when dealing with potential national security threats. Again, its simply common sense.

Im still here

cornnifer wrote:

You're kidding me, right, your "proof" and "facts" are small soundbytes carefully edited together on a fucking YouTube video?! First of all, there is absolutely no context to any of that shit. Its just a bunch of soundbytes put together, probably by some Paultard, in a weak ass attempt to distort the truth and convince thre easily convinced such as yourself. Besides, would you tell me that Iran with a nuclear weapon is NOT a threat to parts of the world including the United States? That's just a common sense statement. It's in no way "beating the war drum". Nor is it warmongering to say that options are not "taken off the table" when dealing with potential national security threats. Again, its simply common sense.

those are his words, you cannot deny that, can you?

Im still here

cornnifer wrote:

You're kidding me, right, your "proof" and "facts" are small soundbytes carefully edited together on a fucking YouTube video?! First of all, there is absolutely no context to any of that shit. Its just a bunch of soundbytes put together, probably by some Paultard, in a weak ass attempt to distort the truth and convince thre easily convinced such as yourself. Besides, would you tell me that Iran with a nuclear weapon is NOT a threat to parts of the world including the United States? That's just a common sense statement. It's in no way "beating the war drum". Nor is it warmongering to say that options are not "taken off the table" when dealing with potential national security threats. Again, its simply common sense.

The National Intelligence Report has said clearly stated that Iran stopped it's Nuclear Program in 2002 or 2003

why don't you get educated?

they are not a threat to us in the least

are you scared of the big bad boogey man?

cmone, wake up......

cornnifer

Im still here wrote:

those are his words, you cannot deny that, can you?

Yeah, they are his words. Point 1 is they are A FEW of his words which were surrounded by A LOT of OTHER words the PaulTard videomaker decided to edit out. Point number 2 is his words were correct. Iran with a nuclear weapon would have to be considered a fucking threat! So what. That isn't a call for war. How fucking naive are you?

Im still here

cornnifer wrote:

Link doesn't seem to work for me. i will say, however, though i admittedly cannot review the link, that an internet website titled "opensecrets.org" reeks to me of bullshit journalism. Any jackass can put up a website and fill it with false material in attempt to pass it off as truth. It takes a special kind of jackass, however, to believe everything they dig up on the fucking web.
i will also say that senator Obama has made public his tax returns for fuck's sake. Something cunton seems to be refusing to do. He apparently has nothing to hide in regards to this issue.

the link works fine, try another lie

Im still here

cornnifer wrote:

Yeah, they are his words. Point 1 is they are A FEW of his words which were surrounded by A LOT of OTHER words the PaulTard videomaker decided to edit out. Point number 2 is his words were correct. Iran with a nuclear weapon would have to be considered a fucking threat! So what. That isn't a call for war. How fucking naive are you?

they are not a threat to us you fucking idiot

do you understand that???????