Obama plagiarizes Deval Patrick.....

Im still here

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/02/17/obama-caught-plagiarizing-2006-deval-patrick-speech


so not only is he a liar, he's a thief too???

this is just plain sad

macgyver06

You are aware those quotes are famous?? and he is doing the exact same thing patrick was doing answering to allegations of him just spewing words... this is not plagiarism and if you think it is... well youre a moron.


just words.

eekamouse

omfg... I'm not an Obama champion, but he's admitted to this already, and he had permission to use this.

Don't believe the Clinton propaganda...

Obama, talking to reporters on a Monday morning trip to Ohio before returning to Wisconsin, said Patrick had suggested he use the lines and they frequently traded ideas.

"I was on the stump. He had suggested that we use these lines and I thought they were good lines," Obama said, adding he should have acknowledged Patrick as the author.

"I'm sure I should have -- didn't this time," he said. "I really don't think this is too big of a deal."

Obama's campaign released a list of quotes from Clinton using some of Obama's catch phrases, and Obama cited some to reporters.

"When Senator Clinton said it's time to turn the page in one of her stump speeches, or said she's fired up and ready to go, I don't think anybody suggests that somehow she's not focused on the issues she's focused on," he said, adding he doubted Ohio or Wisconsin voters cared about the controversy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1818527820080218?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=10010

Im still here

eekamouse wrote:

omfg... I'm not an Obama champion, but he's admitted to this already, and he had permission to use this.
Don't believe the Clinton propaganda...
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1818527820080218?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=10010

I tend to believe this more than the section you chose to hand pick from the article

note: this is from the same article

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said the use of the lines called into question Obama's rhetoric -- one of the Illinois senator's main selling points.

"Senator Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he's breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn't his own," Wolfson said.

eekamouse

Im still here wrote:

"Senator Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he's breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn't his own," Wolfson said.

ROFL.. what does that even mean?

Im still here

eekamouse wrote:

ROFL.. what does that even mean?

just what it says

pretty simple to understand

eekamouse

Im still here wrote:

just what it says

pretty simple to understand

Senator Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he's breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn't his own


translated:

Obama is making promises like any other douche bag politician, and umm.. I work for Hillary Clinton, so ya, Obama sucks.

That's what it says.

michaelcassio

here is a less biased report on the same story. first of all, those are famous quotes and anyone can use them. second, obama is friends with Gov. Deval Patrick and his use of those quotes appears have been discussed with Patrick before Obama made the speech.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/18/obama.patrick/index.html

JD Sal

Im still here wrote:

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/02/17/obama-caught-plagiarizing-2006-deval-patrick-speech


so not only is he a liar, he's a thief too???

this is just plain sad

1st - why is Obama a liar?

2nd - it's plain sad? Patrick told Obama to use it. I think your obvious bias is sad.

Here's Obama's response:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_10

"I've written two books, wrote most of my speeches. So I think putting aside the question ... in terms of whether my words were my own, I think that would be carrying it too far," Obama said.

He noted that Clinton occasionally had borrowed language from him.

"I really don't think this is too big of a deal," Obama said. "When Senator Clinton says 'It's time to turn the page' in one of her stump speeches or says she's 'fired up and ready to go,' I don't think that anybody suggests that she's not focused on the issues that she's focused on."

He hit back harder at a rally in Youngstown, Ohio, turning Clinton's criticism of his speeches into a biting critique of her past support of trade deals, including the North American Free Trade Agreement.

"She says speeches don't put food on the table. You know what? NAFTA didn't put food on the table, either," Obama said, bringing the Rust Belt crowd to its feet.

flywallyfly

Clinton camp must be desperate. This is going to become sad (or funny to Clinton haters).

MasterFramer

Im still here wrote:

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/02/17/obama-caught-plagiarizing-2006-deval-patrick-speech


so not only is he a liar, he's a thief too???

this is just plain sad

hehe you are a joke hehe

beachdweller

eekamouse wrote:

ROFL.. what does that even mean?

it means Clinton's campaign can't stand on it's own laurels, so it'll attack Obama to fill the void. She can't inspire, she can't implement change other than that she is not Bush, she is the same old Democrat, and Obama isn't, and the establishment is afraid of Obama winning, it's the changing of the guard, and no one of her generation will see the inside of the White House as President ever again.

but that's just my take, lol

FinsburyParkCarrots

Im still here wrote:

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/02/17/obama-caught-plagiarizing-2006-deval-patrick-speech


so not only is he a liar, he's a thief too???

this is just plain sad

Well, seeing as no one believed the one about him sucking crackhead cock in Chicago, this is the next best thing.

cornnifer

Im still here wrote:

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/02/17/obama-caught-plagiarizing-2006-deval-patrick-speech


so not only is he a liar, he's a thief too???

this is just plain sad

It was one small freaking paragraph about the significance of words and speeches in which he paraphrased a few lines from a good friend. Whoop de do! The clintons are pathetic and so is anyone who gives two shits about this non-issue. The guy wrote two books in which the audio versions have won grammies. He does most of his speech writing. This is nothing. If this is what the clinton's have, i think they better give back the furniture they stole from the white house because they aren't getting back in there.

Polls are showing a dead heat in Texas. Look out.

PJ_Saluki

I definitely liked the original version more. This is one of those tricky little situations that can make a guy look bad.

Maybe it's because I go to school at Southern Illinois University and we've had a chancellor step down and a president stand his ground after having plagiarism charges leveled at them, but this seems shifty to me.

I wish Obama would have given the other guy credit for the idea of framing those famous quotes into a speech on the power of words, especially with the irony of cribbing from someone else's words. It wouldn't have been difficult and it would have saved Obama a little embarrassment.

Hopefully its the worst thing Obama does in his public life. I'll take that.

gossardstradlin

Im still here wrote:

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/02/17/obama-caught-plagiarizing-2006-deval-patrick-speech


so not only is he a liar, he's a thief too???

this is just plain sad

Yeah, and Mike McCready stole from the Ace Frehley lick for his solo on the song Alive.

Its a copycat world.

Hinny

You stole your username from an unreleased Eddie track. Such unspeakable evil!

Im still here

Hinny wrote:

You stole your username from an unreleased Eddie track. Such unspeakable evil!

Evil isn't even the half of it......

lmfao

check out Obama's site, now that's EVIL

Pacomc79

He also got MLK and FDR in their too.

SCANDELOUS!!!!

This is a non story.

I find it more funny the media focused on two words from a non memorable speech rather than the ones from great speeches.

Kann

gossardstradlin wrote:

Yeah, and Mike McCready stole from the Ace Frehley lick for his solo on the song Alive.

Its a copycat world.

I always thought he copied Robbie Krieger's solo in 5 to 1. It is a copycat world.

Fighting Hellfish

Im still here wrote:

I tend to believe this more than the section you chose to hand pick from the article

note: this is from the same article

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said the use of the lines called into question Obama's rhetoric -- one of the Illinois senator's main selling points.

"Senator Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he's breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn't his own," Wolfson said.

when you find Deval Patrick or someone neutral saysomething like that, let me know. A quote from a Clinton spokesman trying to knock Obama? That doesn't mean a whole lot. Hillary's getting desperate. There's even an article from a few years ago where both Obama and Patrick talk about how they share ideas, and both have given each other unilateral permission to use the other's ideas.