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Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to OBAMA

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Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 tO OBAMA and I gather that his troop withdrawal stance is resonating among the troops. They want to come home and appear to rather give to Obama than to a decorated POW veteran like McCain.

I'm not a Obama supporter so why is the happening to a military man like McCain?

Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    because Obama understands that people are basically good

    McCain believes people are basically evil.
  • BetterThanYouBetterThanYou Posts: 853
    Abuskedti wrote:
    because Obama understands that people are basically good

    McCain believes people are basically evil.

    or, as some people like to point out from time to time around here, most of the military is filled with uneducated morons.
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    The troops probably feel much like civilians in the U.S. do ... That's its "time for a change".
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    BetterThanYou wrote:
    or, as some people like to point out from time to time around here, most of the military is filled with uneducated morons.

    Whoever says that deserves a pimp slap.
  • BetterThanYouBetterThanYou Posts: 853
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Whoever says that deserves a pimp slap.

    not me, just remembering some things i've read on the train over the past few years.
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    BetterThanYou wrote:
    not me, just remembering some things i've read on the train over the past few years.

    Yes, for sure ... I didn't mean you.
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    what about ralph nader?
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • BetterThanYouBetterThanYou Posts: 853
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Yes, for sure ... I didn't mean you.

    i know you didn't, i just wanted to put it out there before i got slammed.
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    maybe because the middle east sucks balls and you cant drink alcohol there.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Ron Paul got more money from the troops than any other candidate. It didn't get him anywhere either.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    unsung wrote:
    Ron Paul got more money from the troops than any other candidate. It didn't get him anywhere either.
    Are you sure? I read the other day somewhere that Ron Paul received more money than any other Republican Candidate, but not more than Obama.

    According to a study released by the Washington watchdog group Center for Responsive Politics, U.S. troops, and especially those deployed abroad, are talking with their wallets and saying they want Democrat Obama as the next president.

    Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than McCain and the “fiercely anti-war Ron Paul,” another Republican presidential candidate, CRP said.

    According to the group, Obama received $60,642 in contributions from 134 troops deployed abroad. McCain only got $10,665 from 26 soldiers, while Paul received $45,512 from 99 troops.

    http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/08/14/more-media-marginalization-of-ron-paul-in-favor-of-obama/1484/
    and
    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/15/troops-donate-more-money-to-obama-than-mccain/
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    g under p wrote:
    Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 tO OBAMA and I gather that his troop withdrawal stance is resonating among the troops. They want to come home and appear to rather give to Obama than to a decorated POW veteran like McCain.

    I'm not a Obama supporter so why is the happening to a military man like McCain?

    Peace

    you answered your own question, more than likely. i do not think those in the miltary simply 'side with their own'...such as simply going with mccain since he is a decorated POW. in reality, what difference does that make? i would think, like many others, they are looking at the future president as to what he can do for them, the country, the world...right NOW....and not simply his military history. so perhaps obsama's message resonates more clearly and in sync with the bulk of troops abroad. to me personally, no surprise there. if i were abroad in service, i'd want to get the fuck home asap. obama seems the more likely candidate of the 2 to work towards that sooner. simple.
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    decides2dream wrote:
    you answered your own question, more than likely. i do not think those in the miltary simply 'side with their own'...such as simply going with mccain since he is a decorated POW. in reality, what difference does that make? i would think, like many others, they are looking at the future president as to what he can do for them, the country, the world...right NOW....and not simply his military history. so perhaps obsama's message resonates more clearly and in sync with the bulk of troops abroad. to me personally, no surprise there. if i were abroad in service, i'd want to get the fuck home asap. obama seems the more likely candidate of the 2 to work towards that sooner. simple.

    True, it is about what Obama can do for them now over McCain's being a military veteran disregarding the fact Obama never served a day in the military.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Are you sure? I read the other day somewhere that Ron Paul received more money than any other Republican Candidate, but not more than Obama.

    According to a study released by the Washington watchdog group Center for Responsive Politics, U.S. troops, and especially those deployed abroad, are talking with their wallets and saying they want Democrat Obama as the next president.

    Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than McCain and the “fiercely anti-war Ron Paul,” another Republican presidential candidate, CRP said.

    According to the group, Obama received $60,642 in contributions from 134 troops deployed abroad. McCain only got $10,665 from 26 soldiers, while Paul received $45,512 from 99 troops.

    http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/08/14/more-media-marginalization-of-ron-paul-in-favor-of-obama/1484/
    and
    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/15/troops-donate-more-money-to-obama-than-mccain/



    Possibly, maybe it was something that was a moment in time and not current.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    PEPPER wrote:
    If I had a president who believed this I truly would be scared for my children’s future. 9/11 and the Holocaust were the first things that came to mind when I read your statement....I believe a leader should have a proactive mindset over a reactive fix.
    Abudeski believes that Obama understands that people are basically good. That doesn't make me scared for my childrens future. If i had kids, then plenty of other things i worry about would make me scared, but not obama feeling like that.

    There's also nothing wrong with thinking maybe people aren't basically good. Maybe we are born with tendencies toward both good and evil? Maybe your babies were born innocent but not good?
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Ron Paul is second from troops deployed abroad, but he dropped out when, in May? Obama should have passed him by now. When Paul was still in it I am sure he had the lead.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    unsung wrote:
    Ron Paul is second from troops deployed abroad, but he dropped out when, in May? Obama should have passed him by now. When Paul was still in it I am sure he had the lead.
    We can easily settle this.
    Thumb war?;)
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    We can easily settle this.
    Thumb war?;)

    One of the better wars I heard at least nobody gets hurt. :)

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    this entire election is just annoying. can Obama be sworn in so that I can go back to not thinking about this anymore.
    Abuskedti wrote:
    because Obama understands that people are basically good

    McCain believes people are basically evil.
    is being selfish evil? or is it good?
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    _outlaw wrote:
    this entire election is just annoying. can Obama be sworn in so that I can go back to not thinking about this anymore.



    do you really think it's such a slamdunk, a foregone conclusion?
    i am still unconvinced. obviously, i have my own personal hopes and desires....but if past elections have taught me nothing, i at least now remain cautious in my views of my fellow americans and what they want, collectively, b/c they have surprised me...negatively...too many times in the past. fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. :p so yes, i am not believing obama is the next president until it actually happens. i too would like to stop thinking about this, especially the uncertainty.
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    decides2dream wrote:
    do you really think it's such a slamdunk, a foregone conclusion?
    i am still unconvinced. obviously, i have my own personal hopes and desires....but if past elections have taught me nothing, i at least now remain cautious in my views of my fellow americans and what they want, collectively, b/c they have surprised me...negatively...too many times in the past. fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. :p so yes, i am not believing obama is the next president until it actually happens. i too would like to stop thinking about this, especially the uncertainty.

    I think it's forgone conclusion that Obama will be the next President. The Republican Party really don't want to win this election, they don't want to try and hav to put this country back together again. It's too difficult of a job besides if Obama fails or if things are still the same he'll be blamed for the mess.

    It then makes it easier in 2012 to bring back yet another Bush, JEB. :P

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • stupidcorporatewhorestupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    g under p wrote:
    I'm not a Obama supporter so why is the happening to a military man like McCain?

    hell, we've TWICE elected a military deserter. How do you explain that?

    word is probably getting around that McCain has continuously voted against veterans benefits.

    that was then, this is now....
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    BetterThanYou wrote:
    or, as some people like to point out from time to time around here, most of the military is filled with uneducated morons.

    higher percentage of non-military Americans that are uneducated morons, than American military members...
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    decides2dream wrote:
    do you really think it's such a slamdunk, a foregone conclusion?
    No.
    I was asking if we can just get this over with and have Obama be president. I really have given up hope in the American people for anything else, but can we atleast not go through with McCain. These elections are just sidetracking real issues so we can hear shit about Edwards having an affair... ridiculous.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    hell, we've TWICE elected a military deserter. How do you explain that?

    word is probably getting around that McCain has continuously voted against veterans benefits.

    that was then, this is now....

    OK BUSH and....

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    Thats funny. In my six years in the military, I don't remember anyone I worked with even voting let alone donating to a campaign.
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Thats funny. In my six years in the military, I don't remember anyone I worked with even voting let alone donating to a campaign.

    I thought that was strange too, it must be a dollar here and there. It's not like the soldiers in the military are making top dollar.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    OffHeGoes29 wrote:
    Thats funny. In my six years in the military, I don't remember anyone I worked with even voting let alone donating to a campaign.

    I voted every year of my 12 years active duty in the army, and I wouldn't say most or half, but still many did vote in my units. I have no idea about who donated to a campaign though.
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

    Stop by:
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  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    beachdweller wrote:
    I voted every year of my 12 years active duty in the army, and I wouldn't say most or half, but still many did vote in my units. I have no idea about who donated to a campaign though.

    Maybe where you where stationed thats the case, but back in 04, maybe 4 people including me, voted out of my shop of 20+ people. Some of them where from key states like Ohio. When I asked them why they didn't vote for a new boss, the common answer was "voting doesn't mean anything, my one vote won't change a thing". I think they were too lazy to send in their ballot back to their state of record.

    Most guys I worked with didn't care about that kind of stuff, as long as thier pay check rolled in.
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • stupidcorporatewhorestupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    g under p wrote:
    OK BUSH and....

    Peace

    bush x 2
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