Gen. Patraeus Testifies at Noon

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Good, the California guy is calling him out.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    gue_barium wrote:
    I think the 'pink ladies' (or whatever they're called) have been at it for awhile.

    Also heard Sheehan got busted.

    The pink construction paper statue of liberty hats would confirm that. :p

    I wonder if they were tinfoil lined...lol

    Actually not funny...she probably lost a loved one (or two?)
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    I gaurantee you somewhere in this proceedings the setup for war with IRAN will certainly come. The bombing of Iran will come before this year is out.

    A scary thought considering what's happening in Iraq.

    Peace
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  • brocabulary
    brocabulary Posts: 19
    petraeus is a joke
    he failed miserably at training the iraqi forces so we give him an even greater more difficult task
    i hope he and his family burn in hell for eternity
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    g under p wrote:
    I gaurantee you somewhere in this proceedings the setup for war with IRAN will certainly come. The bombing of Iran will come before this year is out.

    A scary thought considering what's happening in Iraq.

    Peace

    Nope. You have to recall the desperation for Iraq when 9/11 went down. Remember the Rumsfeld memo on 9/11 or the day after. Basically it said, "get anything on Iraq so we can invade." That desperation isn't there now for Iran. Iran is a measurement in the media in the years to come for the American people's thirst to buy into another Iraq. If things continue as they are, it will happen, but it's probably 10 years down the road.

    The only exception to this would be if Israel came up for a reason to pre-emptively strike Iran in the near future, and so then the US would find itself obligated to aid any further effort in that.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Here's the move on hoopla...

    http://pol.moveon.org/petraeus.html
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    brocabulary wrote:
    petraeus is a joke
    he failed miserably at training the iraqi forces so we give him an even greater more difficult task
    i hope he and his family burn in hell for eternity

    It's a show. It's fucking ridiculous this has gone on as long as it has. The continual BS.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Sadly I fore see the American public buying into this nonsense. This administration is very good at selling their agenda to it's citizens I have to give them credit.

    It sort of reminds me of Germany and the Nazi Party and how they deceived the citizens of that country.

    Peace
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    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    It's funny to watch fox place such justification on controlling the violence, when a huge part of it is because we are there in the first place...


    holy faackkk....nuts...the spinorama zone
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    gue_barium wrote:
    It's a show. It's fucking ridiculous this has gone on as long as it has. The continual BS.


    It's one big sell and justify the war campaign. Holy shit...this could go on all day...week...month?

    edit: They just kicked it up to a whole new level. No wonder there was so much setup time for this. This is a full on campaign.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Yeah I'm getting a chuckle out of it too.

    Peace
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    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's funny to watch fox place such justification on controlling the violence, when a huge part of it is because we are there in the first place...


    holy faackkk....nuts...the spinorama zone

    CNN..MSNBC, whatever..they're just as bad, really...this is so far beyond these idiosynchronic (is that a word?) shows of intellectual concern...ah blah..

    back to benaroya for me.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Damn those interuptions, it woke me up.

    Peace
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    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ackerman has the gloves off! Nice...
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Boom Gasper, ladies and gentlemen...
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Fox actually cut away from the footage while Petraeus stumbled on Ackerman's question, while the reporter talked over it. Seems they have a little public safety net set up to help gloss over the tough questions.

    Devious.
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  • Truthmonger
    Truthmonger Posts: 559
    Old man Lantos was kickin' out the jams, huh ? I especially liked the look on Petraeus' face while the ol' fella was speaking. Mmmm, good times....
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    I have a serious issue with MoveOn.org's Bullshit ad in this mornings paper headlined something like "General betray us".

    That kind of ignorant shit is on the same level as what O'Reilly and Limbaugh do, and isn't helping anything. Bunch of idiots that want to blindly run out of Iraq. Ain't happening, so let's discuss reality.

    12 months minimum to withdrawl from Iraq properly. I agree the Iraqi National Police should be disbanded, and it looks like it's happening now. They are take the good ones and placing them in the local police and army, and the others troublemakers are being let go. Look seriously at a federal system like Biden has been talking about for 2 yrs. This can all happen, and major headway made over the next 6 months while we slowly start to move troops out. Then evaluate where we are at, and continue draw down, but slow it down or stop it as needed to help the Iraqi's keep control. Local government is working, and that's the way out pushing it everywhere.

    probably take closer to 18 months to get out this way, but it is probably the best way with an opportunity for success, unless we stay in Iraq for a yrs to come.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    "I wasn't trying to lecture you"

    "The hell you weren't...I don't need a fucking lecture....."

    *cuts mic*

    lol

    Skelton getting all feisty again...
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    the anti-war Dem's groups would be far more productive catering to the middle, than the far left, I know doing so would effect how much money they get donated, but if they really want to make a difference, and help get pressure on those in Congress who's vote's are needed to overturn a veto by the President, then they back off on the rhetoric, and push intelligent debate.

    Also, for far to many that say Congress cut the money for Vietnam, and that's how we got out, no nothing of history. The amendment to keep funds from being used for Vietnam was passed in 1976 by Congress, when we had already got most of our troops out, and of course it happened before the election.

    You cut funds, you hurt the troops, you hurt our military, a military, especially the Army, that is broken, with the majority of units below C3 readiness, which is non-deployable. the Army is still have issues with recruitment, and no one knows how bad the reenlistment situation is, because so many troops are on stop loss, which means they have to stay in the military until further notice even though their normal enlistment time has been met. Though, when you sign up for the U S military, you are signing an 8 yr contract, regardless of how long the contract states your active duty time is.
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