I have to say, I would be irritated as well. And I'm against this war. There is a time and a place for 'verbal' protest and this is NOT one of those places. Personally, I rather hear the speakers on both sides of this matter opposed to folks shouting over each other. I'd throw them out as well. BTW, Skelton is a democrat, I believe. Nothing gets under my skin more than fools that make a cause I hold dear look ridiculous.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I have to say, I would be irritated as well. And I'm against this war. There is a time and a place for 'verbal' protest and this is NOT one of those places. Personally, I rather hear the speakers on both sides of this matter opposed to folks shouting over each other. I'd throw them out as well. BTW, Skelton is a democrat, I believe. Nothing gets under my skin more than fools that make a cause I hold dear look ridiculous.
I've been a protester in DC and I have to say that to see that those crazily-pink-clad women were even allowed into the proceedings tells me something about the attitude of DC right now. They were allowed in for a reason. From my experience with security there, normally, they wouldn't have gotten past the front door.
I've been a protester in DC and I have to say that to see that those crazily-pink-clad women were even allowed into the proceedings tells me something about the attitude of DC right now. They were allowed in for a reason. From my experience with security there, normally, they wouldn't have gotten past the front door.
That one lady in pink went a little too crazy imo...didn't seem legitimate to me.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Ok the questions are starting... I hope.... the dude with the white hair was incredibly boring...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I think they were legit. The fact that they were allowed in is fishy. Or, media-oriented. The Show is for the Average Joe and Jane, remember.
They could have had people outside polling the protesters so as to to pull in a few guaranteed nuts just waiting to pop.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I think the 'pink ladies' (or whatever they're called) have been at it for awhile.
Also heard Sheehan got busted.
The pink construction paper statue of liberty hats would confirm that.
I wonder if they were tinfoil lined...lol
Actually not funny...she probably lost a loved one (or two?)
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I gaurantee you somewhere in this proceedings the setup for war with IRAN will certainly come. The bombing of Iran will come before this year is out.
A scary thought considering what's happening in Iraq.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
petraeus is a joke
he failed miserably at training the iraqi forces so we give him an even greater more difficult task
i hope he and his family burn in hell for eternity
I gaurantee you somewhere in this proceedings the setup for war with IRAN will certainly come. The bombing of Iran will come before this year is out.
A scary thought considering what's happening in Iraq.
Peace
Nope. You have to recall the desperation for Iraq when 9/11 went down. Remember the Rumsfeld memo on 9/11 or the day after. Basically it said, "get anything on Iraq so we can invade." That desperation isn't there now for Iran. Iran is a measurement in the media in the years to come for the American people's thirst to buy into another Iraq. If things continue as they are, it will happen, but it's probably 10 years down the road.
The only exception to this would be if Israel came up for a reason to pre-emptively strike Iran in the near future, and so then the US would find itself obligated to aid any further effort in that.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
petraeus is a joke
he failed miserably at training the iraqi forces so we give him an even greater more difficult task
i hope he and his family burn in hell for eternity
It's a show. It's fucking ridiculous this has gone on as long as it has. The continual BS.
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Sadly I fore see the American public buying into this nonsense. This administration is very good at selling their agenda to it's citizens I have to give them credit.
It sort of reminds me of Germany and the Nazi Party and how they deceived the citizens of that country.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It's funny to watch fox place such justification on controlling the violence, when a huge part of it is because we are there in the first place...
holy faackkk....nuts...the spinorama zone
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It's a show. It's fucking ridiculous this has gone on as long as it has. The continual BS.
It's one big sell and justify the war campaign. Holy shit...this could go on all day...week...month?
edit: They just kicked it up to a whole new level. No wonder there was so much setup time for this. This is a full on campaign.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yeah I'm getting a chuckle out of it too.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It's funny to watch fox place such justification on controlling the violence, when a huge part of it is because we are there in the first place...
holy faackkk....nuts...the spinorama zone
CNN..MSNBC, whatever..they're just as bad, really...this is so far beyond these idiosynchronic (is that a word?) shows of intellectual concern...ah blah..
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Damn those interuptions, it woke me up.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Fox actually cut away from the footage while Petraeus stumbled on Ackerman's question, while the reporter talked over it. Seems they have a little public safety net set up to help gloss over the tough questions.
Devious.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I have a serious issue with MoveOn.org's Bullshit ad in this mornings paper headlined something like "General betray us".
That kind of ignorant shit is on the same level as what O'Reilly and Limbaugh do, and isn't helping anything. Bunch of idiots that want to blindly run out of Iraq. Ain't happening, so let's discuss reality.
12 months minimum to withdrawl from Iraq properly. I agree the Iraqi National Police should be disbanded, and it looks like it's happening now. They are take the good ones and placing them in the local police and army, and the others troublemakers are being let go. Look seriously at a federal system like Biden has been talking about for 2 yrs. This can all happen, and major headway made over the next 6 months while we slowly start to move troops out. Then evaluate where we are at, and continue draw down, but slow it down or stop it as needed to help the Iraqi's keep control. Local government is working, and that's the way out pushing it everywhere.
probably take closer to 18 months to get out this way, but it is probably the best way with an opportunity for success, unless we stay in Iraq for a yrs to come.
"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
"The hell you weren't...I don't need a fucking lecture....."
*cuts mic*
lol
Skelton getting all feisty again...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
the anti-war Dem's groups would be far more productive catering to the middle, than the far left, I know doing so would effect how much money they get donated, but if they really want to make a difference, and help get pressure on those in Congress who's vote's are needed to overturn a veto by the President, then they back off on the rhetoric, and push intelligent debate.
Also, for far to many that say Congress cut the money for Vietnam, and that's how we got out, no nothing of history. The amendment to keep funds from being used for Vietnam was passed in 1976 by Congress, when we had already got most of our troops out, and of course it happened before the election.
You cut funds, you hurt the troops, you hurt our military, a military, especially the Army, that is broken, with the majority of units below C3 readiness, which is non-deployable. the Army is still have issues with recruitment, and no one knows how bad the reenlistment situation is, because so many troops are on stop loss, which means they have to stay in the military until further notice even though their normal enlistment time has been met. Though, when you sign up for the U S military, you are signing an 8 yr contract, regardless of how long the contract states your active duty time is.
"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
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I have to say, I would be irritated as well. And I'm against this war. There is a time and a place for 'verbal' protest and this is NOT one of those places. Personally, I rather hear the speakers on both sides of this matter opposed to folks shouting over each other. I'd throw them out as well. BTW, Skelton is a democrat, I believe. Nothing gets under my skin more than fools that make a cause I hold dear look ridiculous.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I've been a protester in DC and I have to say that to see that those crazily-pink-clad women were even allowed into the proceedings tells me something about the attitude of DC right now. They were allowed in for a reason. From my experience with security there, normally, they wouldn't have gotten past the front door.
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That one lady in pink went a little too crazy imo...didn't seem legitimate to me.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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as Eddie said...I'm thru with screaming. Its bigger than any ofi us.
I think they were legit. The fact that they were allowed in is fishy. Or, media-oriented. The Show is for the Average Joe and Jane, remember.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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It's just a couple of banks, mainly.
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Shit, just started listening to Benaroya.
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They could have had people outside polling the protesters so as to to pull in a few guaranteed nuts just waiting to pop.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I think the 'pink ladies' (or whatever they're called) have been at it for awhile.
Also heard Sheehan got busted.
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The pink construction paper statue of liberty hats would confirm that.
I wonder if they were tinfoil lined...lol
Actually not funny...she probably lost a loved one (or two?)
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
A scary thought considering what's happening in Iraq.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
he failed miserably at training the iraqi forces so we give him an even greater more difficult task
i hope he and his family burn in hell for eternity
Nope. You have to recall the desperation for Iraq when 9/11 went down. Remember the Rumsfeld memo on 9/11 or the day after. Basically it said, "get anything on Iraq so we can invade." That desperation isn't there now for Iran. Iran is a measurement in the media in the years to come for the American people's thirst to buy into another Iraq. If things continue as they are, it will happen, but it's probably 10 years down the road.
The only exception to this would be if Israel came up for a reason to pre-emptively strike Iran in the near future, and so then the US would find itself obligated to aid any further effort in that.
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http://pol.moveon.org/petraeus.html
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
It's a show. It's fucking ridiculous this has gone on as long as it has. The continual BS.
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It sort of reminds me of Germany and the Nazi Party and how they deceived the citizens of that country.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
holy faackkk....nuts...the spinorama zone
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
It's one big sell and justify the war campaign. Holy shit...this could go on all day...week...month?
edit: They just kicked it up to a whole new level. No wonder there was so much setup time for this. This is a full on campaign.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
CNN..MSNBC, whatever..they're just as bad, really...this is so far beyond these idiosynchronic (is that a word?) shows of intellectual concern...ah blah..
back to benaroya for me.
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Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
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Devious.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
That kind of ignorant shit is on the same level as what O'Reilly and Limbaugh do, and isn't helping anything. Bunch of idiots that want to blindly run out of Iraq. Ain't happening, so let's discuss reality.
12 months minimum to withdrawl from Iraq properly. I agree the Iraqi National Police should be disbanded, and it looks like it's happening now. They are take the good ones and placing them in the local police and army, and the others troublemakers are being let go. Look seriously at a federal system like Biden has been talking about for 2 yrs. This can all happen, and major headway made over the next 6 months while we slowly start to move troops out. Then evaluate where we are at, and continue draw down, but slow it down or stop it as needed to help the Iraqi's keep control. Local government is working, and that's the way out pushing it everywhere.
probably take closer to 18 months to get out this way, but it is probably the best way with an opportunity for success, unless we stay in Iraq for a yrs to come.
Stop by:
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"The hell you weren't...I don't need a fucking lecture....."
*cuts mic*
lol
Skelton getting all feisty again...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Also, for far to many that say Congress cut the money for Vietnam, and that's how we got out, no nothing of history. The amendment to keep funds from being used for Vietnam was passed in 1976 by Congress, when we had already got most of our troops out, and of course it happened before the election.
You cut funds, you hurt the troops, you hurt our military, a military, especially the Army, that is broken, with the majority of units below C3 readiness, which is non-deployable. the Army is still have issues with recruitment, and no one knows how bad the reenlistment situation is, because so many troops are on stop loss, which means they have to stay in the military until further notice even though their normal enlistment time has been met. Though, when you sign up for the U S military, you are signing an 8 yr contract, regardless of how long the contract states your active duty time is.
Stop by:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14678777351&ref=mf