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Juberoo
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I find it ironic that persons who spout "you cannot tell me what to do with my life" are the ones who prove to lack critical thinking skills and routinely make poor decisions in life. Now obviously youthful ignorance can somewhat be excused. Adults who continue on this mindset however, are truly pathetic. Wisdom comes from yeilding to knowledge, it is not innate.
Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
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Assessments such as "poor" or "pathetic" are emotional judgments. Logic and critical thinking is about "reasoning", which includes reasons, not emotional and personal jusfications and attacks. For example, a doctor using reason and critical thinking would not tell you your illness or yourself was "pathetic", he would explain your illness in a way that you were able to understand and therefore know--which is actual and real KNOWledge.
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Really?.... how so, and who are we talking about that is telling whom? i.e. Who are the ones that are saying "you cannot tell me what to do with my life" referring to?
Govt, or just people against people?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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This wasn't directed at anyone in particular Roland. Just a general observation.
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
I love how you try to appear learned Angelica. It's great entertainment.
Actually, the proof that I refer to is in the facts that present themselves when a person lives by the aforementioned philosophy. Nothing emotional there.
If it helps you to comprehend the thought, lets replace "pathetic" with "astonishing".
A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.
Pro-life by choice.
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Oh ok, I understand where you're coming from now.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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But the doctor could tell you that your pathetic hygeine brought about your illness. Sometimes you need to overemphasize your words to bring about action.
-Enoch Powell
This is supported by the rescuer/persecutor/victim triangle in psychology. Using power plays to get action, we are no longer being objective, but rather have entered into the equation, acting from emotion. And natural consequences result. We hook ourselves into the cycles and must play them out, or learn to balance ourselves.
The only way to effect healthy influence is to operate from the even playing field, which means we do not operate from the illusory and imbalanced perspectives of "above" and "below" others.
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And yet emotion causes some of the boldest reactions in people, both good and bad. I think it's necessary to be influenced by emotion somewhat in order to make wise decisions. If something doesn't feel right, that may not be a completely rational influence but it sure helps you make a wise decision.
-Enoch Powell
When we operate from a healthy, balanced place, it shows in our thoughts, words and deeds. We are grounded, balanced, and we are personally attuned and empowered. Blaming others, and judging them is about unempowerment. When we do so, we operate on the idea that things will only be okay when someone else does what we expect them to. Until they do so, we tell ourselves that the imbalance that we see will continue to exist. And therefore we are saying our mind and our own balance is controlled by others. Therefore imbalanced people are quite panicky and controlling. If the "other" controls us, we must then control them. And all the while, balance, self-control and centeredness has nothing to do with other people.
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any real info/facts to back this statement up? merely curious. especially about the 'poor decisions in life' part. who exactly is deciding what is a 'poor decision'.....and what kinds of decisions? what i may subjectively think as a poor decision, may suit someone else's lifestyle choices just fine. then again, i don't pretend to understand or know others' decision making process, or their individual choices....just by looking at their lifestyle. MANY people out there, rich and poor alike.....live lifestyles i would not want, money or not.
i think TRUE wisdom comes from yeilding to the knowledge that is pertinent to your OWN, individual choices....and being capable of deciphering what matters most to you, and let the rest fall by the wayside.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
The loss is that those who try to tell me what to do, how my life isn't up to their standards, may be some of those that are the most willing to help me. It's hard to ask for help because of what *advice* I will get in return. Yeah, it's definitely something to live and learn.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
How ironic. :rolleyes:
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The currents will shift
Honestly, this sounds more like a subtle (actually, not too subtle) attempt to vent your frustrations with certain individuals. Like angelica stated, there is nothing objective or logical about that, it is emotionally-driven. You assume to know these 'poor decisions' and all the circumstances involved. You also assume folks can't learn or gain wisdom as 'poor choices' are realized.
Are you perhaps referring to folks close to you? I know this can be very emotionally taxing. I think wisdom comes from experience, as well. I know many (myself included perhaps) that had to learn things the 'hard' way.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
...and where she says "There is no explaination for it. Smoking is not "intelligent" by anyones definition." " ...it looks like you might be correct: she might have an unspoken agenda.
It's not surprising when the average person does not understand the intelligence of the human psyche and the function of addictions and "dysfunctions". It's not surprising that lack of such understanding may cause one to judge based on emotion in the guise of critical assessment. That's why demystification and true critical discernment and KNOWledge are so important.
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The board is littered with agenda from this one. Not to mention personal insults and a wholier than thou attitude. Kinda makes you wonder what such an enlightened human being is doing wasting their time on us of lowlier intelligence.
And why anybody would even want to get into fisty cuffs with cutback I can't quite fathom. But then I am probably too stupid to understand it.
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The currents will shift
Oh, ok. It makes more sense now. The OP was a bit vague, so I wasn't sure what their angle was.
Yeah, addiction is so multi-faceted. I personally know how hard it is to quit smoking. I imagine there is a bit more to this OP's agenda, but that's another thread.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
wisdom does not come from yielding to knowledge. wisdom comes from knowing how to incorporate that knowledge into your life, for the betterment of said life and that of others.
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The bottom line is that when you point the finger at someone else, there are three more pointing back at you...and in biblical terms, it's the bit about pointing to the speck in your brother's eye, when you have a plank in your own. It doesn't work.
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You know... I was eating the other day at this restaurant, and there were these two women beside me (I couldn't see them b/c of the partition). One of them was going on ...and on...and on...forever...talking bad about all her "friends"...it was insane...35 minutes of hubris, mal-intent, and bile.
I thought to myself...yeah...she creates it... Her life is miserable because she spins it....she's creating her own continued misery right now.
Her friend eating with her will now go to all her friends casually...(it WILL slip at some point) and the people she was talking about will all know about it...and whoever else becomes privy to it along the way, like dirty laundry.
Honestly...what an idiot. I dislike people that always gossip...it drives me crazy unless it's humorous and unassuming or harmless.
It's like that song "you only do it to yourself"
I can see this in my own life from driving my car, to casually talking, to being angry or sarcastic. It all comes back around, and the harder you send it out, the faster it comes back.
Let me tell you I was so happy to get out of earshot from that noise
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Sometimes I tune into my own smug, self-righteous self and I think...."oh my goodness, no wonder my boyfriend thinks I'm an egotist!!" It is such a challenge to be willing to face the insanity of perpetually undermining one's self and one's life, and to listen to the learning experiences that show us the direct cause and effect of what our own dysfunction brings. It's so humbling. That's why apparently the really well-adjusted people are very humble. I wouldn't know, though! Getting caught up in the nonsense of the ego--believing our own PR when we know better--well, we're just ensuring ourselves a learning experience or two.
The zaniest for me is when I'm caught in those scenarios where I'm playing out a dysfunctional role, and even though I see what's happening, I can't change it--I'm going full steam in ego-driven world. I can only observe the oncoming trainwreck and make it a point to learn for the next time...which doesn't always work!
I've been paying today for eating anti-life sustaining "pub food" yesterday! My whole mindset is off-kilter--I'm feeling harsh and argumentative.
Speaking of which, Roland, I think it's your fault that they limited our smiley usage on this board, what with your smiley-use-abuse! :mad:
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Everyone gossips, it's a human trait, as integral to us as breathing and shagging.
This board is just a gossip channel, and for anyone here to say they despise gossip is pretty damn funny to me.
Now, malicious behaviour is a different thing altogether.
I wonder what is really up Jubberoo's shirt to prompt this thread ?
Misery loves company.
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I had no idea what the OP was talking about with this post. I was hoping it would become clear as it went along ... and so it has! Too funny!
PFfft, where've you been?
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Must be... I can't believe her friend sat through it all saying "yes...uh-huh...oh" over and over again... I would have probably been making wrist slicing motions with my dinner knife subconsciously...lol
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I know...but It's a secret...hehe
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Most of us could be trusted with our liberty enough to not infringe on others' liberties. We're educated enough to know that shooting your gun into the air could kill someone, to put it simply.
There will always be ignorant people who refuse to acquire knowledge though, and that is why anarchism cannot work. I need a government to enforce a code of ethics and morality.
Frequently, people that have little knowledge about the world want to have the same level of freedom as the rest of us: like little kids wanting to be adults. We find that a murderer cannot have the same level of freedom as the rest of us because he made an ignorant choice. Those people who refuse to listen to reason will eventually find themselves in a situation asking for help from the government.
-Enoch Powell