So now can we legalize?

_Crazy_Mary_

inmytree wrote:

who's comparing...?

I was simply following the logic of this statement: To protect the rest of society from the consequences of the actions of a few people.

In my area, a large group of drivers are horrible...which is a danger to society, therefore, in order to protect the rest of society, I propose we ban cars to keep the rest of society protected...

That was a comparison. I don't understand why you would try to deny it.

I happen to agree to some extent, only not to ban cars, but to raise the driving age. I would like to see a driving age of 22.

fugawzi

inmytree wrote:

who's comparing...?

I was simply following the logic of this statement: To protect the rest of society from the consequences of the actions of a few people.

In my area, a large group of drivers are horrible...which is a danger to society, therefore, in order to protect the rest of society, I propose we ban cars to keep the rest of society protected...

Agreed. There's no way to "protect" society from every single thing, and that's not what the government does anyway.

godpt3

fugawzi wrote:

Agreed. There's no way to "protect" society from every single thing, and that's not what the government does anyway.

Actually, it is. In fact, there are whole federal agencies dedicated to it. EPA, USDA and FDA just to name a few.

fugawzi

godpt3 wrote:

Actually, it is. In fact, there are whole federal agencies dedicated to it. EPA, USDA and FDA just to name a few.

Actually it isn't. I'll explain why. Look at the agencies you just listed. They've all failed to protect us at one point or another. FDA, USDA, EPA? Can you say mad cow disease, prescription drugs that went bad that were approved by those agencies like Vioxx, Global warming? All you have to do is google each agency with the word failure and read for yourself. Government is not going to protect every single thing sorry.

godpt3

fugawzi wrote:

All you have to do is google each agency with the word failure and read for yourself. Government is not going to protect every single thing sorry.

Of course there are failures and corruption in every agency. But at the core of the matter, public safety is still their primary responsibility.

inmytree

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

That was a comparison. I don't understand why you would try to deny it.

I happen to agree to some extent, only not to ban cars, but to raise the driving age. I would like to see a driving age of 22.

obtuse, huh...?

Let's try some others....

guns...guns happen to kill people who live in society...since we want to keep society safe, we should make guns illegal....

booze...members of society sometimes drink too much and end up dying, so, to keep society safe, we should ban booze....


ladders...sadly, some members of our society have fallen off a ladder and were hurt, sometimes, killed....to keep or society safe, we should outlaw ladders....

inmytree

godpt3 wrote:

How about we just ban bad drivers... oh, wait. We already do that.

do we...?

where....?

godpt3

fugawzi wrote:

Can you say mad cow disease

I can say bovine spongiform encephalopathy and Variant-Creutzfeld Jakob Disease



Trust me, I have way more experience with this one than you do

godpt3

inmytree wrote:

do we...?

where....?

we've got all kinds of reckless driving laws on the book don't we?

fugawzi

godpt3 wrote:

Of course there are failures and corruption in every agency. But at the core of the matter, public safety is still their primary responsibility.

That's supposed to be the primary responsibility of the government, but that's not how it works. In this country it's more about $$$$$$, and that leads to public safety being put on the back burner.

fugawzi

godpt3 wrote:

I can say bovine spongiform encephalopathy and Variant-Creutzfeld Jakob Disease



Trust me, I have way more experience with this one than you do

No, I'm not trusting you. If you're so much more experienced then why are you implying the government is gonna protect society from the consequences blah blah blah when it's pretty well documented that they haven't many times? That's all I'm saying.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Also, for those of you in Massachusetts, there's a question on the ballot related to de-criminalization:

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/elepip08/pip082.htm

Deadline to register is Oct 15th, this Wednesday.

inmytree

godpt3 wrote:

we've got all kinds of reckless driving laws on the book don't we?

yet cars are still out there killing people...by your logic, we should ban cars...

look, it's your logic, not mine, I'm just along for the ride...

_Crazy_Mary_

inmytree wrote:

obtuse, huh...?

Let's try some others....

guns...guns happen to kill people who live in society...since we want to keep society safe, we should make guns illegal....

booze...members of society sometimes drink too much and end up dying, so, to keep society safe, we should ban booze....


ladders...sadly, some members of our society have fallen off a ladder and were hurt, sometimes, killed....to keep or society safe, we should outlaw ladders....

I thought this was about legalizing marijuana, which I agree with. I can't tell now if you are for or against it. I guess you're against it, since you now want to outlaw guns, booze & ladders. ???

All I did was point out what a ridiculous comparison you made (cars vs. marijuana) and mention that if you thought that was a decent comparison maybe you are smoking too much.

You want to turn it into a fight, when all along, I've said, "legalize it!"

I don't understand where you're going with this.

mammasan

Weren't the warrentless wiretapping and the Patriot Act passed on the backs of what is in the best interest of society and protecting society?

godpt3

fugawzi wrote:

No, I'm not trusting you. If you're so much more experienced then why are you implying the government is gonna protect society from the consequences blah blah blah when it's pretty well documented that they haven't many times? That's all I'm saying.

How many Americans have died from vCJD (the human form of mad cow disease to the lay population)? There have been a grand total of either 1 or 2 (can't remember for sure) cases of BSE in livestock in the U.S. And did you know that both of those cows were traced back to Canada? And did you also know that both those cases were traced back to Canadian ranchers using illegal feed?

Collin

Legalize it, don't tax it.

fugawzi

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

You want to turn it into a fight, when all along, I've said, "legalize it!"

I don't understand where you're going with this.

There's no fight, just discussion. He was replying to someone who implied government protects society from consequences of the actions of others, (which isn't entirely true) so he used the analogy of banning cars, which is true to an extent. Cars kill, if it's government's job to "protect" why are there cars? That's the point government can't protect you and won't protect you against every singe thing, even if there are reckless driving laws.

inmytree

fugawzi wrote:

There's no fight, just discussion. He was replying to someone who implied government protects society from consequences of the actions of others, (which isn't entirely true) so he used the analogy of banning cars, which is true to an extent. Cars kill, if it's government's job to "protect" why are there cars. That's the point government can't protect you against every singe thing, even if there are reckless driving laws.

exactly, thank you....:)

_Crazy_Mary_

Collin wrote:

Legalize it, don't tax it.

why not tax it?
We pay tax on alcohol and cigarettes. Why not marijuana?