So now can we legalize?

_Crazy_Mary_

Yes!
I say legalize it and tax the shit out of it! Anybody growing w/o a business license and paying taxes gets twice the punishment they would incur right now. I'm all for it!
Added benefit: Marijuana would cost so much more, maybe less people would smoke it.

saveuplife

I think it should be legalized. That said, I think it should not be pushed (advertised). The problem with legalization is the fact that big business will get behind it and attract it to more people via ads. The plus is it would probably be filtered better, so it would be slightly less of a health risk. I also think it should be heavily taxed, if ever legalized.

It's a tough issue. And the other main problem is... why can't you legalize (you name it) other drug if you do so for pot?

I will be honest.... I think it may be best to just keep it the way it is. The truth is, if you want it and act responsibly, you can get it, use it and will not get in trouble. So, in a way, the law is OK as is.

fugawzi

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

Yes!
I say legalize it and tax the shit out of it! Anybody growing w/o a business license and paying taxes gets twice the punishment they would incur right now. I'm all for it!
Added benefit: Marijuana would cost so much more, maybe less people would smoke it.

I don't think it would cost more, being a "black market" drug probably causes it to be more expensive. Twice the punishment sounds a little harsh, but some is appropriate.

Nevermind

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

Yes!
I say legalize it and tax the shit out of it! Anybody growing w/o a business license and paying taxes gets twice the punishment they would incur right now. I'm all for it!
Added benefit: Marijuana would cost so much more, maybe less people would smoke it.

You know Eddie Vedder smokes pot?

YieldInHiding

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

Yes!
I say legalize it and tax the shit out of it! Anybody growing w/o a business license and paying taxes gets twice the punishment they would incur right now. I'm all for it!
Added benefit: Marijuana would cost so much more, maybe less people would smoke it.

Why is it a benefit if less people smoke it?

It's my opinion that people should be able to smoke whatever they want. Why would you want to limit freedoms?

_Crazy_Mary_

Nevermind wrote:

You know Eddie Vedder smokes pot?

really???

godpt3

YieldInHiding wrote:

Why would you want to limit freedoms?

To protect the rest of society from the consequences of the actions of a few people.

_Crazy_Mary_

YieldInHiding wrote:

Why is it a benefit if less people smoke it?

It's my opinion that people should be able to smoke whatever they want. Why would you want to limit freedoms?

That isn't limiting freedoms. If smoking pot is so important, people will come up with the extra money for it.
We need the tax revenue.
Personally, marijuana is harmful to my health, so when I said it would be an added benefit if less people smoked it, I meant people to whom it is harmful.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

godpt3 wrote:

It impairs brain function. This is scientific fact.


I'm a person just like you
But I've got better things to do
Than sit around and fuck my head
Hang out with the living dead
Snort white shit up my nose
Pass out at the shows
I don't even think about speed
That's something I just don't need

I've got the straight edge

I'm a person just like you
But I've got better things to do
Than sit around and smoke dope
'Cause I know I can cope
Laugh at the thought of eating ludes
Laugh at the thought of sniffing glue
Always gonna keep in touch
Never want to use a crutch

I've got the straight edge

hahaha!

Yea, weed impairs brain function...so does breathing in and out really fast, or having too much glucose in your system, or watching too much TV.

And that song you're quoting is about drug abuse, not weed-smoking

inmytree

godpt3 wrote:

To protect the rest of society from the consequences of the actions of a few people.

great concept...

people in my area can't drive for shit, we have the highest accident rate in the state...

let's make cars illegal...I want to be protected...

_Crazy_Mary_

fugawzi wrote:

I don't think it would cost more, being a "black market" drug probably causes it to be more expensive. Twice the punishment sounds a little harsh, but some is appropriate.

we are each entitled to our own opinion. I do think it would cost more.

fugawzi

saveuplife wrote:

The plus is it would probably be filtered better, so it would be slightly less of a health risk. I also think it should be heavily taxed, if ever legalized.

Right now there are healthy alternatives to smoking like digestion and vaporizers

saveuplife wrote:

It's a tough issue. And the other main problem is... why can't you legalize (you name it) other drug if you do so for pot?

I will be honest.... I think it may be best to just keep it the way it is. The truth is, if you want it and act responsibly, you can get it, use it and will not get in trouble. So, in a way, the law is OK as is.

I don't think there's a "slippery slope" that leads to other hardcore drugs being legalized as a result of pot. As you know there's a ton of other drugs that are legal at the moment. I think the law as is right now actually leads to people using harder drugs because sometimes it's easier to get harder drugs. It's easier to get illegitimate prescription drugs for some people. That's way worse.

_Crazy_Mary_

inmytree wrote:

great concept...

people in my area can't drive for shit, we have the highest accident rate in the state...

let's make cars illegal...I want to be protected...

you are smoking way too much of it if you think that's a proper comparison...

godpt3

fugawzi wrote:

I don't think there's a "slippery slope" that leads to other hardcore drugs being legalized as a result of pot.

why not? you guys already use alcohol on that very same "slippery slope."

fugawzi

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

we are each entitled to our own opinion. I do think it would cost more.

that's fine. Supply and demand. I'm just saying High demand with low supply, as is the case right now, probably leads to higher prices than if there were a higher supply as a result of legalization.

NeilJam

The taxes the government would get by legalizing marijuana would certainly help with our economic problems right now. The country would also save a lot of money by reducing spending in this farce called the "war on drugs" and we wouldn't have the expenses stemming from incarcerating people for using or selling weed. If marijuana was legal it would be harder for minors to buy as there would surely be a minimum age set for purchasing like there is for alcohol and tobacco.

I'm surprised no one here who opposes legalizing marijuana has used the gateway drug argument yet, but I'll give you my opinion on that anyway. It is not just a gateway to using harder drugs, it is also a gateway for more dealers to be able to sell other types of drugs. I believe legalizing it would make it more difficult for people to get some of the harder drugs because many dealers base their business on selling weed and would occasionally have other stuff available. Take away their main money maker, and they no longer have the means to sell other, more harmful drugs.

I'm not saying it would stop the distribution of all harder drugs. I know there are some dealers that mainly sell shit like crack or heroin (things that should certainly remain illegal), but it would still hurt some drug dealers' business.

fugawzi

godpt3 wrote:

why not? you guys already use alcohol on that very same "slippery slope."

You're assuming alcohol and pot use can't be exlcusive, that they must be mutual? Or are you saying the argument for legalization, because of alochol being legal, is a slippery slope? What ARE you trying to say? It's pretty simple, if alcohol and other drugs are legal, why not pot? Especially when it's gonna generate revenue like the alcohol, tobacco, and prescription drug industries. I'm saying there is no slippery slope, it's a fallacy.

fugawzi

NeilJam wrote:

The taxes the government would get by legalizing marijuana would certainly help with our economic problems right now. The country would also save a lot of money by reducing spending in this farce called the "war on drugs" and we wouldn't have the expenses stemming from incarcerating people for using or selling weed. If marijuana was legal it would be harder for minors to buy as there would surely be a minimum age set for purchasing like there is for alcohol and tobacco.

I'm surprised no one here who opposes legalizing marijuana has used the gateway drug argument yet, but I'll give you my opinion on that anyway. It is not just a gateway to using harder drugs, it is also a gateway for more dealers to be able to sell other types of drugs. I believe legalizing it would make it more difficult for people to get some of the harder drugs because many dealers base their business on selling weed and would occasionally have other stuff available. Take away their main money maker, and they no longer have the means to sell other, more harmful drugs.

I'm not saying it would stop the distribution of all harder drugs. I know there are some dealers that mainly sell shit like crack or heroin (things that should certainly remain illegal), but it would still hurt some drug dealers' business.

Wow, finally someone who gets it. Thank you.

inmytree

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

you are smoking way too much of it if you think that's a proper comparison...

who's comparing...?

I was simply following the logic of this statement: To protect the rest of society from the consequences of the actions of a few people.

In my area, a large group of drivers are horrible...which is a danger to society, therefore, in order to protect the rest of society, I propose we ban cars to keep the rest of society protected...

godpt3

inmytree wrote:

In my area, a large group of drivers are horrible...which is a danger to society, therefore, in order to protect the rest of society, I propose we ban cars to keep the rest of society protected...

How about we just ban bad drivers... oh, wait. We already do that.