Where were you on September 11th?

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  • Byrnzie wrote:
    The only unusual thing about 9/11 was the victims. America had been attacking other countries around the world with impunity for years. This time it was America that was at the receiving end.
    I'm surprised that so many people were surprised.

    I completely agree!

    ...

    I didn't want to offend any Americans because I like them but I'm afraid it's true. (Mind you, I'm English, so I can't talk).
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,306
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The only unusual thing about 9/11 was the victims. America had been attacking other countries around the world with impunity for years. This time it was America that was at the receiving end.
    I'm surprised that so many people were surprised.

    i'm not sure about surprised, i think many people had an inkling something might happen especially after the 1993 attack. I think it's more the magnitude of the events on September 11.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    i'm not sure about surprised, i think many people had an inkling something might happen especially after the 1993 attack. I think it's more the magnitude of the events on September 11.

    I think it was the sheer spectacle of the events that are the main factor. I wouldn't say 'magnitude' is the right word. It was an incredible spectacle. And in retrospect, and light of the evidence, it's obvious that the attacks were permitted to happen by those in power.
  • Walking into work...

    For those interested:

    Facts and coincidences re 9/11:

    The Old plan from the late 1980s to tear down the WTC
    The WTC was a money loser since the late 1980s
    The WTC was getting old and needed to be torn down by about 2010
    The cost for tearing down the WTC was estimated at $10-$20 billion
    Larry Silverstein fund invested $14 million and reaped several billion
    Silverstein would have needed to tear down old WTC and rebuild it
    9-11 saved Silverstein over ten billion to tear down and rebuild WTC
    Total insurance coverage was quadrupled from $2 billion to $8 billion
    This sweet deal was signed just weeks ahead of the 9-11-1 events
    For the first time terrorism was covered by the insurances
    The old WTC was a proven and known money loser since the 1980s
    Silverstein, a NY real estate professor and WTC investor, knew this
    Silverstein’s lease and insurance deal made no business sense
    Silverstein admitted that the old WTC building 7 was pulled
    Silverstein’s backers are Zionist hawks (Kissinger, Greenberg, et al.)
    The WTC destruction hence smells of a huge insurance fraud
    Ignored 9-11 warnings and foreknowledge
    Close observance of the alleged Arab suspects
    Training of the alleged hijackers by CIA and Pentagon
    Pre-existing plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq
    The pre-existing need to find a pretext for those invasions
    The close connections of Bush, bin Laden, the Saudis
    Several pre-scheduled mock drills on 9-11
    Military stand-down through drills
    G. W. Bush inactive in a school
    Zionist interest in the results
    Marvin Bush in control of WTC Security
    Groundless pointing out of Osama bin Laden and 19 students as suspects
    No forensically usable evidence to this day against alleged suspects
    Fake 9-11 government reports that fly in the face of reported facts
    Destruction of WTC, Pentagon and Florida flight school crime scenes
    Destruction of evidence files archive that was stored in WTC
    Cover-up of hundreds of millions insider trading for CIA/Krongard
    Flying the bin Laden family out of Texas during flight ban period
    Rewards and promotions to moles in the government apparatus
    Silencing and regimenting of whistleblowers, blocking testimony
    Destroying tapes of alleged cell phone calls
    Manipulating flight records and specifics
    Manipulating pre-flight security video screenshots
    Withholding several security videos from the Pentagon
    The government holds on to Arab suspects theory with no evidence
    Seven alleged hijackers still alive today but no initiative to prosecute
    The planes shown on TV are models (photoshopped or holograms)
    Conscious lie that Saddam Hussein was somehow behind 9-11
    Lies about weapons of mass destruction, Niger yellowcake etc.
    Stratagem to use 9-11 to start two wars (Afghanistan and Iraq)
    War profiteering by Bush family (politically) and cronies (financially)
    Destruction of U.S. Constitution, Patriot Act I and II
    Promotion of hatred through the 9-11 myth of an Arab attack
    Misuse of the national security issue through the 9-11 myth
    The hijacking of N.S.A. by this administration as an act of communism not security.
    The wreckage of flight 77 not found at the pentagon 9-11 crime scene.
    The implosion of WTC building seven.

    YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-u7vRoyQVs&e

    YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHegCopSG28
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  • i was walking through the school hallways... it was my junior year... my History teacher saw me and we said hello... that's when he told me while drinking his black coffee... "oh, my god, did you hear the news? apparently a plane hit the world trade center earlier and now another airplane has hit the second world trade center."

    i was a little confused... at first i thought it was just a mere accident... it was when i went to my first period that we turned the news on... that was when we saw the first wtc building crash down... then our school superintendent's came up with some crazy idea and thought... what if the terrorists decide to hit the largest state in the US? (which happens to be Texas, land-wise) then he thought what if they decide to hit the capital of texas? there's a close chance the terrorists might steal a plane from our airport... which so happens that we were about 7 miles near that airport... which then led us to believe that Del Valle High School was at great risk of a terrorist attack... what a dumbass
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  • The day it happened, my father in law said he suspected it was Bin Laden and gave us a lecture about him. That was the first time I heard the guys name. I was impressed.

    Did anyone else know who he was before 9/11?
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,306
    Walking into work...

    For those interested:

    Facts and coincidences re 9/11:

    The Old plan from the late 1980s to tear down the WTC
    The WTC was a money loser since the late 1980s
    The WTC was getting old and needed to be torn down by about 2010
    The cost for tearing down the WTC was estimated at $10-$20 billion
    Larry Silverstein fund invested $14 million and reaped several billion
    Silverstein would have needed to tear down old WTC and rebuild it
    9-11 saved Silverstein over ten billion to tear down and rebuild WTC
    Total insurance coverage was quadrupled from $2 billion to $8 billion
    This sweet deal was signed just weeks ahead of the 9-11-1 events
    For the first time terrorism was covered by the insurances
    The old WTC was a proven and known money loser since the 1980s
    Silverstein, a NY real estate professor and WTC investor, knew this
    Silverstein’s lease and insurance deal made no business sense
    Silverstein admitted that the old WTC building 7 was pulled
    Silverstein’s backers are Zionist hawks (Kissinger, Greenberg, et al.)
    The WTC destruction hence smells of a huge insurance fraud
    Ignored 9-11 warnings and foreknowledge
    Close observance of the alleged Arab suspects
    Training of the alleged hijackers by CIA and Pentagon
    Pre-existing plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq
    The pre-existing need to find a pretext for those invasions
    The close connections of Bush, bin Laden, the Saudis
    Several pre-scheduled mock drills on 9-11
    Military stand-down through drills
    G. W. Bush inactive in a school
    Zionist interest in the results
    Marvin Bush in control of WTC Security
    Groundless pointing out of Osama bin Laden and 19 students as suspects
    No forensically usable evidence to this day against alleged suspects
    Fake 9-11 government reports that fly in the face of reported facts
    Destruction of WTC, Pentagon and Florida flight school crime scenes
    Destruction of evidence files archive that was stored in WTC
    Cover-up of hundreds of millions insider trading for CIA/Krongard
    Flying the bin Laden family out of Texas during flight ban period
    Rewards and promotions to moles in the government apparatus
    Silencing and regimenting of whistleblowers, blocking testimony
    Destroying tapes of alleged cell phone calls
    Manipulating flight records and specifics
    Manipulating pre-flight security video screenshots
    Withholding several security videos from the Pentagon
    The government holds on to Arab suspects theory with no evidence
    Seven alleged hijackers still alive today but no initiative to prosecute
    The planes shown on TV are models (photoshopped or holograms)
    Conscious lie that Saddam Hussein was somehow behind 9-11
    Lies about weapons of mass destruction, Niger yellowcake etc.
    Stratagem to use 9-11 to start two wars (Afghanistan and Iraq)
    War profiteering by Bush family (politically) and cronies (financially)
    Destruction of U.S. Constitution, Patriot Act I and II
    Promotion of hatred through the 9-11 myth of an Arab attack
    Misuse of the national security issue through the 9-11 myth
    The hijacking of N.S.A. by this administration as an act of communism not security.
    The wreckage of flight 77 not found at the pentagon 9-11 crime scene.
    The implosion of WTC building seven.

    YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-u7vRoyQVs&e

    YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHegCopSG28

    sorry, but that belongs in a different thread. not a thread about where you were that day.
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  • sorry, but that belongs in a different thread. not a thread about where you were that day.

    Well I think it belongs on the front page of tomorrows newspaper. It's related. Too bad... don't read it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,306
    Well I think it belongs on the front page of tomorrows newspaper. It's related. Too bad... don't read it.

    i didn't. i glanced at it. we'll agree to disagree on this.
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    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    sorry, but that belongs in a different thread. not a thread about where you were that day.

    I disagree. It is appropriate.

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  • i didn't. i glanced at it. we'll agree to disagree on this.


    The first video actually explains why you see it a certain way. I could care less if you don't want to see it. I didn't know you were the guy in charge of policing forum content.

    I provided my input to the thread topic and added additional information. Very important information above the topic itself. Priorities.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    I disagree. It is appropriate.

    I disagree. The stuff Alex, Jr. posted had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,306
    fine, i'm not saying you can't post it and i'm not saying i disagree with it. that's all, nothing more nothing less.
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    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    i
    . then our school superintendent's came up with some crazy idea and thought... what if the terrorists decide to hit the largest state in the US? (which happens to be Texas, land-wise) then he thought what if they decide to hit the capital of texas? there's a close chance the terrorists might steal a plane from our airport... which so happens that we were about 7 miles near that airport... which then led us to believe that Del Valle High School was at great risk of a terrorist attack... what a dumbass

    Wait wait wait.....Texas largest by land-wise???? Ummmm taking from wikipedia

    Alaska 663,267 square miles
    Texas 268,581 square miles

    Not even close.
  • At home, on the phone with my sister when my bf beeped in to tell me to turn on the news.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • jeffbr wrote:
    I disagree. The stuff Alex, Jr. posted had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.


    Do tell me who is Alex Junior is my dear friend Jeffbr. Please elaborate extoll your wisdom for everyone to see.

    I'm all ears about people who feel the need to police other people about topic integrity when it doesn't suit them.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    I disagree. The stuff Alex, Jr. posted had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

    We're 6 years removed from that day, and there have been countless threads like these posted from time to time. Alex could have done a search and found one. I think we should stay up to speed. Roland's post is the topic at hand.


    Wake up.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    cutback wrote:
    my alarm went off at 6 am pdt and i had bad radio reception so the only station i could receive was the am news station......all i heard was a plane had crashed into the wtc.....so i turned on my tv and as i was about to turn off katie couric i watched the second plane hit.......i didn't move from the edge of my bed for the next hour and a half......it remains the most surreal thing i have ever witnessed....

    My story is very similar. Alarm at 6am PDT. Jumped in the shower. Went downstairs and put a pot of coffee on. Turned on the news. I couldn't believe my eyes. Flipped to a couple of other channels to make sure I was hearing/seeing what I thought I was. Then sat glued on the couch for a couple of hours. Everyone in the office was late getting in, and half the office went home by mid-day to call relatives and make sure friends and family in the NYC / DC areas were safe.

    Surreal was the word for it.
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  • jeffbr wrote:
    I disagree. The stuff Alex, Jr. posted had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.


    His post was about 9/11, at least...so it is partially on topic...which more than we can say for a good percentage of the posts here.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    We're 6 years removed from that day, and there have been countless threads like these posted from time to time. Alex could have done a search and found one. I think we should stay up to speed. Roland's post is the topic at hand.


    Wake up.


    We've had countless threads on many topics over the years, and yet we're still here. I don't think there have been countless "where were you / what were you doing on 9/11" lately. If so, please link me to them. I do know that there have been countless 9/11 conspiracy theory topics, though.

    So while the 9/11 truth topics may be the "topic at hand" for you, this particular thread is not that. Wake up.
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  • According to MRI studies, a brain response identical to a drug induced hit in the pleasure center of the brain explains why so many do not see what is before their very eyes, and stick to the original story when everything indicates otherwise.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Do tell me who is Alex Junior is my dear friend Jeffbr. Please elaborate extoll your wisdom for everyone to see.

    I'm all ears about people who feel the need to police other people about topic integrity when it doesn't suit them.

    I don't post in the 9/11 "truth" or "conspiracy theory" topics anymore. I said my peace long ago, and for me it simply isn't worth debating. I was only offering my opinion about your post in the same way gue was. I am not the posting police. I never asked nor told you not to post. I simply made the observation that your post was off-topic, which it clearly was. But if you feel the need to interject Alex's opinions in every topic whether or not they are warranted, have at it my dear friend! Enjoy yourself, by all means. That's what we're here for.
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  • jeffbr wrote:
    I don't post in the 9/11 "truth" or "conspiracy theory" topics anymore. I said my peace long ago, and for me it simply isn't worth debating. I was only offering my opinion about your post in the same way gue was. I am not the posting police. I never asked nor told you not to post. I simply made the observation that your post was off-topic, which it clearly was. But if you feel the need to interject Alex's opinions in every topic whether or not they are warranted, have at it my dear friend! Enjoy yourself, by all means. That's what we're here for.

    Your perception is not my perception, but I don't try to tell you what to do.

    Don't try to tell me what I can do, should or shouldn't do, in this situation because it won't fly at all. It's about 9/11, realize that if anything.

    You can try to powder up your intentions all you want or try to be impartial and unassuming about the actual topic, but I can see right through it.

    Maybe you didn't take the time to read before you reacted (blindly) but the guy's name is Barrie not Alex. Your mistake obviously.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    I was in my bed sleeping. i was working a 12hr night shift then...had no clue, went into work, a little late, went down to my where my friend worked...he was talking to someone so i just sat down and they were saying things like they couldn't believe it....the place had been getting ready to lay off some ppl and before that they fire ppl first to avoid severance pay...i thought someone had gotten fired and i thought it odd they took it so seriously...i made a comment like it wasn't any big deal....then they told me what happened and went to cnn's website....such a strong unpleasant feeling and sadness....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    So while the 9/11 truth topics may be the "topic at hand" for you, this particular thread is not that. Wake up.

    It is. Anybody can input what they want about it. Nobody should be posting down another person's viewpoint on it, and that's what you're doing. At 6 fucking years, the spectrum of 9/11 and all it encompasses goes much further than those rememberences we have of what we were doing that day, and posts should be included to reflect that.

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  • LindaLinda Posts: 1,656
    The day it happened, my father in law said he suspected it was Bin Laden and gave us a lecture about him. That was the first time I heard the guys name. I was impressed.

    Did anyone else know who he was before 9/11?

    It was the first name that i came up with after the second plane, at that time i knew that it couldnt be a accident, one plane ok, but the second one made me to believe that it could only be one man with enough "power" to pull this off....Osama Bin Laden
    For the record, i just picked up my daughter from school, and while we were walking down the street i overheard two shopkeepers talking and hear them say "Now they have done it, its out off control, now its is payback time, they are not going to get away with this"
    I thought they were talking about the Israel/palestina conflict, and that there had been a giant suicide attack or something....man was i wrong...had to explain my 4 year old daughter what was going on...
    i'm not happy yet.....
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    A friend called me and woke me up and told me to watch the tv. I had a horrible hangover and took a very long while to understand. Arguably one of my worst hangovers.
  • HinnyHinny Posts: 1,610
    Watching a West Wing episode about Islamo-facism.

    For a while I thought, wow, big boost in production money they got there.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    at work in cincinnati, and a patient came in and mentioned something about it. I remember our office manager going and getting a tv and watching the news that morning.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    I was listening to Stern and heard about the accident. Then I went to the caf at work and watched the live feed until it hit the street. Then I had a super night without any air traffic flying over the house. It was a nice, quiet time to reflect on how the world got so fucked up and enjoy some drinks.
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