Where were you on September 11th?

wolfbear

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

yes. I wish I hadn't asked now. It didn't have a big impact on me personally but now I feel guilty for digging up old memories. Sorry. XXX

Hey, don't feel bad. I thought it was an interesting question. It definitely did affect us all, but I do feel very sorry for the ones that were directed involved.

MattCameronKicksButt

EyesForTheSkies wrote:

isn't it fucked up tho that this event that our entire generation will remember where they were when it happened, and the only thing everybody was doing was watching tv?...

They were probably watching the news!

EyesForTheSkies

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

They were probably watching the news!

well yeah, obviously... but it's just weird that the single most unifying event of our generation is that, essentially, we all watched tv together that day...

MattCameronKicksButt

EyesForTheSkies wrote:

well yeah, obviously... but it's just weird that the single most unifying event of our generation is that, essentially, we all watched tv together that day...

hmmm. See, I am not the argumentative type but I'm not sure that's true. I think most peoples first thought's are why did it happen? and are we somewhat to blame? ('We' being the western countries).

Anyway, I was at work!

But these big (events) are always shown on TV anyway. It's better than reading the newspapers.

EyesForTheSkies

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

hmmm. See, I am not the argumentative type but I'm not sure that's true. I think most peoples first thought's are why did it happen? and are we somewhat to blame? ('We' being the western countries).

Anyway, I was at work!

But these big (events) are always shown on TV anyway. It's better than reading the newspapers.

i think you might be reading too much into what i'm saying... i'm not making an arguement or speculating on what anyone was thinking, all i'm saying is that i find it sort of ironic that the unifying event of our lifetime is that we were all watching tv that day.....

anyway nevermind... i'm going to bed...

MattCameronKicksButt

EyesForTheSkies wrote:

i think you might be reading too much into what i'm saying... i'm not making an arguement or speculating on what anyone was thinking, all i'm saying is that i find it sort of ironic that the unifying event of our lifetime is that we were all watching tv that day.....

anyway nevermind... i'm going to bed...

heeheehee. Sorry. Goodnight. XXX

lucylespian

I was on a boat in the Indain Ocean, coming back for a surf trip to the Mentawai Islands to Sumatra.
Whe we got in teh news hit, and the airport was shut and we had no idea when they would open or if WW3 had started.
Strangley, I didn't freak much, it was too surreal to be alarming.
I spent the day in a hotel room with other guys off the boat, including an Aussie pro surfer called Luke Egan. He broke out a block of Aussie Cadbury chocolate. He said he always carried some wiht him, for the times when shit was bad, and he needed some home comfort.
It worked. Thanks Luke !!
LAter that day, the airport re-opened, and I flew home. I was glad to get home.

xavier mcdaniel

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

heeheehee. Sorry. Goodnight. XXX

no problem. i don't mind talking about it. it's traumatic even after five-plus years but in some ways theraputic to discuss it.

Thorns2010

I got up and flipped on the tele. Saw the WTC on fire, and if I remember correctly the first tower had already collapsed.

Headed out the door to head to class, and by the time I got there the second tower had fallen. It was a Minorities in The Media class, so we had a big projection screen in the lecture hall. So of course for the rest of the class we all watched as everything was happening.

Classes were canceled for the afternoon that day and I still to this day think that it was crazy to shut down the campus. In the sense that it was in bum-fuck nowhere Minnesota. No fear of terrorist here, yet everyone seemed scared of them.

Now don't get me wrong, I feel bad for anyone in NYC that day, and for anyone who knew or loved anyone that was involved, but I was about 1,300 miles away, and had no connection to anyone there, so why would I be scared?

Byrnzie

The only unusual thing about 9/11 was the victim. America had been attacking other countries around the world with impunity for years. This time it was America that was at the receiving end.
I'm surprised that so many people were surprised.

MattCameronKicksButt

Byrnzie wrote:

The only unusual thing about 9/11 was the victims. America had been attacking other countries around the world with impunity for years. This time it was America that was at the receiving end.
I'm surprised that so many people were surprised.

I completely agree!

...

I didn't want to offend any Americans because I like them but I'm afraid it's true. (Mind you, I'm English, so I can't talk).

xavier mcdaniel

Byrnzie wrote:

The only unusual thing about 9/11 was the victims. America had been attacking other countries around the world with impunity for years. This time it was America that was at the receiving end.
I'm surprised that so many people were surprised.

i'm not sure about surprised, i think many people had an inkling something might happen especially after the 1993 attack. I think it's more the magnitude of the events on September 11.

Byrnzie

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

i'm not sure about surprised, i think many people had an inkling something might happen especially after the 1993 attack. I think it's more the magnitude of the events on September 11.

I think it was the sheer spectacle of the events that are the main factor. I wouldn't say 'magnitude' is the right word. It was an incredible spectacle. And in retrospect, and light of the evidence, it's obvious that the attacks were permitted to happen by those in power.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Walking into work...

For those interested:

Facts and coincidences re 9/11:

The Old plan from the late 1980s to tear down the WTC
The WTC was a money loser since the late 1980s
The WTC was getting old and needed to be torn down by about 2010
The cost for tearing down the WTC was estimated at $10-$20 billion
Larry Silverstein fund invested $14 million and reaped several billion
Silverstein would have needed to tear down old WTC and rebuild it
9-11 saved Silverstein over ten billion to tear down and rebuild WTC
Total insurance coverage was quadrupled from $2 billion to $8 billion
This sweet deal was signed just weeks ahead of the 9-11-1 events
For the first time terrorism was covered by the insurances
The old WTC was a proven and known money loser since the 1980s
Silverstein, a NY real estate professor and WTC investor, knew this
Silverstein’s lease and insurance deal made no business sense
Silverstein admitted that the old WTC building 7 was pulled
Silverstein’s backers are Zionist hawks (Kissinger, Greenberg, et al.)
The WTC destruction hence smells of a huge insurance fraud
Ignored 9-11 warnings and foreknowledge
Close observance of the alleged Arab suspects
Training of the alleged hijackers by CIA and Pentagon
Pre-existing plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq
The pre-existing need to find a pretext for those invasions
The close connections of Bush, bin Laden, the Saudis
Several pre-scheduled mock drills on 9-11
Military stand-down through drills
G. W. Bush inactive in a school
Zionist interest in the results
Marvin Bush in control of WTC Security
Groundless pointing out of Osama bin Laden and 19 students as suspects
No forensically usable evidence to this day against alleged suspects
Fake 9-11 government reports that fly in the face of reported facts
Destruction of WTC, Pentagon and Florida flight school crime scenes
Destruction of evidence files archive that was stored in WTC
Cover-up of hundreds of millions insider trading for CIA/Krongard
Flying the bin Laden family out of Texas during flight ban period
Rewards and promotions to moles in the government apparatus
Silencing and regimenting of whistleblowers, blocking testimony
Destroying tapes of alleged cell phone calls
Manipulating flight records and specifics
Manipulating pre-flight security video screenshots
Withholding several security videos from the Pentagon
The government holds on to Arab suspects theory with no evidence
Seven alleged hijackers still alive today but no initiative to prosecute
The planes shown on TV are models (photoshopped or holograms)
Conscious lie that Saddam Hussein was somehow behind 9-11
Lies about weapons of mass destruction, Niger yellowcake etc.
Stratagem to use 9-11 to start two wars (Afghanistan and Iraq)
War profiteering by Bush family (politically) and cronies (financially)
Destruction of U.S. Constitution, Patriot Act I and II
Promotion of hatred through the 9-11 myth of an Arab attack
Misuse of the national security issue through the 9-11 myth
The hijacking of N.S.A. by this administration as an act of communism not security.
The wreckage of flight 77 not found at the pentagon 9-11 crime scene.
The implosion of WTC building seven.

YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-u7vRoyQVs&e

YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHegCopSG28

deadnothingbetter

i was walking through the school hallways... it was my junior year... my History teacher saw me and we said hello... that's when he told me while drinking his black coffee... "oh, my god, did you hear the news? apparently a plane hit the world trade center earlier and now another airplane has hit the second world trade center."

i was a little confused... at first i thought it was just a mere accident... it was when i went to my first period that we turned the news on... that was when we saw the first wtc building crash down... then our school superintendent's came up with some crazy idea and thought... what if the terrorists decide to hit the largest state in the US? (which happens to be Texas, land-wise) then he thought what if they decide to hit the capital of texas? there's a close chance the terrorists might steal a plane from our airport... which so happens that we were about 7 miles near that airport... which then led us to believe that Del Valle High School was at great risk of a terrorist attack... what a dumbass

MattCameronKicksButt

The day it happened, my father in law said he suspected it was Bin Laden and gave us a lecture about him. That was the first time I heard the guys name. I was impressed.

Did anyone else know who he was before 9/11?

xavier mcdaniel

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Walking into work...

For those interested:

Facts and coincidences re 9/11:

The Old plan from the late 1980s to tear down the WTC
The WTC was a money loser since the late 1980s
The WTC was getting old and needed to be torn down by about 2010
The cost for tearing down the WTC was estimated at $10-$20 billion
Larry Silverstein fund invested $14 million and reaped several billion
Silverstein would have needed to tear down old WTC and rebuild it
9-11 saved Silverstein over ten billion to tear down and rebuild WTC
Total insurance coverage was quadrupled from $2 billion to $8 billion
This sweet deal was signed just weeks ahead of the 9-11-1 events
For the first time terrorism was covered by the insurances
The old WTC was a proven and known money loser since the 1980s
Silverstein, a NY real estate professor and WTC investor, knew this
Silverstein’s lease and insurance deal made no business sense
Silverstein admitted that the old WTC building 7 was pulled
Silverstein’s backers are Zionist hawks (Kissinger, Greenberg, et al.)
The WTC destruction hence smells of a huge insurance fraud
Ignored 9-11 warnings and foreknowledge
Close observance of the alleged Arab suspects
Training of the alleged hijackers by CIA and Pentagon
Pre-existing plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq
The pre-existing need to find a pretext for those invasions
The close connections of Bush, bin Laden, the Saudis
Several pre-scheduled mock drills on 9-11
Military stand-down through drills
G. W. Bush inactive in a school
Zionist interest in the results
Marvin Bush in control of WTC Security
Groundless pointing out of Osama bin Laden and 19 students as suspects
No forensically usable evidence to this day against alleged suspects
Fake 9-11 government reports that fly in the face of reported facts
Destruction of WTC, Pentagon and Florida flight school crime scenes
Destruction of evidence files archive that was stored in WTC
Cover-up of hundreds of millions insider trading for CIA/Krongard
Flying the bin Laden family out of Texas during flight ban period
Rewards and promotions to moles in the government apparatus
Silencing and regimenting of whistleblowers, blocking testimony
Destroying tapes of alleged cell phone calls
Manipulating flight records and specifics
Manipulating pre-flight security video screenshots
Withholding several security videos from the Pentagon
The government holds on to Arab suspects theory with no evidence
Seven alleged hijackers still alive today but no initiative to prosecute
The planes shown on TV are models (photoshopped or holograms)
Conscious lie that Saddam Hussein was somehow behind 9-11
Lies about weapons of mass destruction, Niger yellowcake etc.
Stratagem to use 9-11 to start two wars (Afghanistan and Iraq)
War profiteering by Bush family (politically) and cronies (financially)
Destruction of U.S. Constitution, Patriot Act I and II
Promotion of hatred through the 9-11 myth of an Arab attack
Misuse of the national security issue through the 9-11 myth
The hijacking of N.S.A. by this administration as an act of communism not security.
The wreckage of flight 77 not found at the pentagon 9-11 crime scene.
The implosion of WTC building seven.

YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-u7vRoyQVs&e

YouTube - Barrie Zwicker - 9/11 Media Cover-Up 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHegCopSG28

sorry, but that belongs in a different thread. not a thread about where you were that day.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

sorry, but that belongs in a different thread. not a thread about where you were that day.

Well I think it belongs on the front page of tomorrows newspaper. It's related. Too bad... don't read it.

xavier mcdaniel

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Well I think it belongs on the front page of tomorrows newspaper. It's related. Too bad... don't read it.

i didn't. i glanced at it. we'll agree to disagree on this.

gue_barium

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

sorry, but that belongs in a different thread. not a thread about where you were that day.

I disagree. It is appropriate.