Obama's our next president, we should all hope he does well. To answer your questions...
Obama served in the state legislature LONGER than Palin served as a governor. He was also a professor of constitutional law something very relevant to the presidency. If we had a president who actually knew and followed the constitution the last 8 years, maybe it wouldn't have been disobeyed and manipulated the way it was. Throw in that he ran one of the most successful campaigns in U.S. history and he's very qualified. If your of the belief that experience equates to being a good president read this:
Biden is the VICE-Pres not the president so change is still possible. Change doesn't mean Washington outsider. It means the change of the current policies that have put us where we are with so many problems. It's gonna happen.
It is funny how we convince ourselves of things. I'm not even going to touch your points about Obama, except to say that I think your reasoning seems reasonable even if others disagree with your outcome.
However, people defending having Biden on the "Change" ticket disturbs me and genuinely pisses me off. There is absolutely no way to justify this. Obama went away from his "Change" to attach himself to a Washington insider who had a lot of experience, especially foreign policy. This contradicts his change message, but certainly adds a strength where he had a great weakness. It is what it is...but Biden is no change.
You won't touch the points about Obama because you can't. They're legit. I don't need to campaign for Obama though. He won already.
Biden is not our president. He will have influence and I'm GLAD he has a vast knowledge of foreign policy. How is that bad? Just because he's a Washington guy doesn't mean they can't CHANGE current policy. Look up the word change. It's not what you're suggesting it is.
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It is funny how we convince ourselves of things. I'm not even going to touch your points about Obama, except to say that I think your reasoning seems reasonable even if others disagree with your outcome.
However, people defending having Biden on the "Change" ticket disturbs me and genuinely pisses me off. There is absolutely no way to justify this. Obama went away from his "Change" to attach himself to a Washington insider who had a lot of experience, especially foreign policy. This contradicts his change message, but certainly adds a strength where he had a great weakness. It is what it is...but Biden is no change.
you can't make change if you don't get into office ... Biden was the security blanket many folks needed.
It's the same reasoning about McCain stating "Trust my experience, my opponent has very little exprience" ... then, picking Palin.
V.P. picks are ALWAYS political ... usually a mix of location + gap filling on the resume.
I'll bet you a BAJILLION dollars that McCain wishes he picked Romney, and seriously, those guys don't have a lot in common.
Heck, I'll bet McCain wished he picked Tom Ridge to carry Pennsylvania.
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I think there are plenty of tears going around today...I'd also venture to guess that th emajority of the tears of joy are fake...like Jesse Jackson...staged tears. Pretty pathetic.
Congrats on the most ignorant post of the day besides Know1's. You really think that someone who stood by MLK during the civil rights movement wouldn't be moved that a black man won the Presidency?
You won't touch the points about Obama because you can't. They're legit. I don't need to campaign for Obama though. He won already.
Biden is not our president. He will have influence and I'm GLAD he has a vast knowledge of foreign policy. How is that bad? Just because he's a Washington guy doesn't mean they can't CHANGE current policy. Look up the word change. It's not what you're suggesting it is.
Man, people just aren't even trying to read anymore...maybe I'll try all caps..
I SAID YOUR POINTS (on Obama) WERE REASONABLE...no need for your smart ass (or should I say dumbass) comments.
Again, READ what I wrote about Biden. I went as far to say that it added a strength where Obama had a weakness...but it certainly clouded the "Change" message. I ended up voting for Obama, would have been more willing to do so if he had picked a VP with little experience in the system but one that wanted to change the system.
Man, people just aren't even trying to read anymore...maybe I'll try all caps..
I SAID YOUR POINTS (on Obama) WERE REASONABLE...no need for your smart ass (or should I say dumbass) comments.
Again, READ what I wrote about Biden. I went as far to say that it added a strength where Obama had a weakness...but it certainly clouded the "Change" message. I ended up voting for Obama, would have been more willing to do so if he had picked a VP with little experience in the system but one that wanted to change the system.
Ok glad we agree then.
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You won't touch the points about Obama because you can't. They're legit. I don't need to campaign for Obama though. He won already.
Biden is not our president. He will have influence and I'm GLAD he has a vast knowledge of foreign policy. How is that bad? Just because he's a Washington guy doesn't mean they can't CHANGE current policy. Look up the word change. It's not what you're suggesting it is.
you mention that Biden is not the president which is true but to be consitent your last post mentioned that Obama has more experience that palin. Palin was not running for president either.
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you mention that Biden is not the president which is true but to be consitent your last post mentioned that Obama has more experience that palin. Palin was not running for president either.
I mentioned Biden not being president because someone said Biden is not change. While he won't be pres, even if he became pres, doesn't mean he couldn't fundamentally change things.
I mentioned Palin because someone said she had more experience than Obama. That's not true, neither is it relevant. Either of them could turn out to be a good or bad president.
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Maybe some of them will even send formal letters of apology to Palin and her family.
She did get bashed pretty good.....actually feel sorry for her..but you can only blame McCain for choosing and Palin for accepting. She obviously wasn't up to the task.
Wrong...Obama will be a good president, Palin (no fault of her own) would not for so many reasons including intellect and awareness.
I agree with that. I still feel either of them could do well or do poorly. That said, I'm glad it's Obama in the White House and not Palin.
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It is funny how we convince ourselves of things. I'm not even going to touch your points about Obama, except to say that I think your reasoning seems reasonable even if others disagree with your outcome.
However, people defending having Biden on the "Change" ticket disturbs me and genuinely pisses me off. There is absolutely no way to justify this. Obama went away from his "Change" to attach himself to a Washington insider who had a lot of experience, especially foreign policy. This contradicts his change message, but certainly adds a strength where he had a great weakness. It is what it is...but Biden is no change.
Biden is not our president. He will have influence and I'm GLAD he has a vast knowledge of foreign policy. How is that bad? Just because he's a Washington guy doesn't mean they can't CHANGE current policy. Look up the word change. It's not what you're suggesting it is.
you can't make change if you don't get into office ... Biden was the security blanket many folks needed.
It's the same reasoning about McCain stating "Trust my experience, my opponent has very little exprience" ... then, picking Palin.
V.P. picks are ALWAYS political ... usually a mix of location + gap filling on the resume.
I'll bet you a BAJILLION dollars that McCain wishes he picked Romney, and seriously, those guys don't have a lot in common.
Heck, I'll bet McCain wished he picked Tom Ridge to carry Pennsylvania.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Congrats on the most ignorant post of the day besides Know1's. You really think that someone who stood by MLK during the civil rights movement wouldn't be moved that a black man won the Presidency?
Man, people just aren't even trying to read anymore...maybe I'll try all caps..
I SAID YOUR POINTS (on Obama) WERE REASONABLE...no need for your smart ass (or should I say dumbass) comments.
Again, READ what I wrote about Biden. I went as far to say that it added a strength where Obama had a weakness...but it certainly clouded the "Change" message. I ended up voting for Obama, would have been more willing to do so if he had picked a VP with little experience in the system but one that wanted to change the system.
I agree with everything here.
Instead of McCain picking Romney as a VP, I wish the republican party had picked Romney as the Presidential Candidate...would have been interesting.
Ok glad we agree then.
you mention that Biden is not the president which is true but to be consitent your last post mentioned that Obama has more experience that palin. Palin was not running for president either.
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I mentioned Biden not being president because someone said Biden is not change. While he won't be pres, even if he became pres, doesn't mean he couldn't fundamentally change things.
I mentioned Palin because someone said she had more experience than Obama. That's not true, neither is it relevant. Either of them could turn out to be a good or bad president.
Honestly, I think we would have had President Elect Romney right now.
which would have been equally historic ... a Mormon president.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Wrong...Obama will be a good president, Palin (no fault of her own) would not for so many reasons including intellect and awareness.
I agree with that. I still feel either of them could do well or do poorly. That said, I'm glad it's Obama in the White House and not Palin.
I htought the Palin pick was wise at first...it ended up not being the best choice.
I disagree with you re:Huckabee v. Romney...with the economic crisis, Romney woudl have been the best choice.
And he probably would have had my vote for president if he had the nomination.