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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    This thread proves that the OP and most of you in here have no idea what McCain stands for or who he is. Very sad. "Lets vote for the popular guy because he looks good and speaks well. He says change so hey thats for me".
    Please people. At least understand what McCain is all about and what he believes in.

    Bunch of lambs.

    dude ... only a lamb would vote to continue with the GOP ... mccain/palin are puppets ... just because bush is gone doesn't mean the party changes ... it doesn't work that way ...
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    oh I know all about that... but it's a natural reaction and my guess is quite a few countries would do the same.

    well ... yes, that's what they want ... so, although you're right ... not many other countries would be involved in something like this ...
  • polaris wrote:
    well ... yes, that's what they want ... so, although you're right ... not many other countries would be involved in something like this ...
    Not many other countries COULD be involved in something like this :o

    And I know that's what they want... don't you know about me and my conspiracy theories by now? I do think everything's orchestrated... I don't feel we should blame average joe for wanting revenge on the people who attacked their country though... cos not many people see or want to see the bigger picture!
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  • inmytree wrote:
    fine, tell me what McCain "stands for"....other that attacking Obama, I've heard very little substance...
    I have no time to educate you on where Mccain stands. I will say that Obama spent more time and energy then Macain did on attack adds though.
    Do the homework yourself.
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  • I have no time to educate you on where Mccain stands. I will say that Obama spent more time and energy then Macain did on attack adds though.
    Do the homework yourself.
    the election's what... tomorrow? Here's your chance to sway a few people :)
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    I have no time to educate you on where Mccain stands. I will say that Obama spent more time and energy then Macain did on attack adds though.
    Do the homework yourself.

    I see you've got nothin'....

    all I know is, McCain has played the Guilt by Association card and he is more concerned about those who make a quarter of a Million a year over the middle class...

    and that he has man-crush on Joe the Plumber..
  • Ok, I'm getting really sick of this. I can't wait for this election to be over. I voted Obama, and you know what? I DID MY HOMEWORK. I watched his speeches, I read his plans, I read McCain's plans and watched his speeches. I fact checked when they lied. I determined how important all of the "character flaws" of both candidates were for me. I looked up their stances on issues and how they relate to my ideas on the direction I want to see this country move.

    I DID NOT vote for Obama because he looks good and makes good speeches. I AM NOT a blind sheep because I agree with the candidate who is more popular at the moment. I DID make a very tough decision because I agree with a lot of what McCain says and disagree with a few of Obama's ideas. For anyone to accuse me of being uneducated about my decision is ridiculous and a huge jump of logic.
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    I have no time to educate you on where Mccain stands. I will say that Obama spent more time and energy then Macain did on attack adds though.
    Do the homework yourself.

    but McCain had a higher percentage of total ads that were negative ...

    it goes both ways.
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  • Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I believe, that if Americans choose McCain, they will be turning their back on the rest of the world, choosing to show them four more years of the Bush-Cheney 'fuck you' finger. And I predict a deeply unpleasant shift.

    Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood. Outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism, opposition to this specific administration. But if McCain wins in November, that might well change. Suddenly Europeans and others will conclude that their dispute is with not only one ruling clique, but Americans themselves. For it will have been the American people, not the politicians, who will have passed up a chance for a fresh start, and whether we like it or not, a fresh start the world is yearning for.



    agreed.
    however, i think we as a country would also ve saying 'fuck you' to ourselves as well. i seriously hope, collectively, we are not that stupid. however, after bush getting elected TWICE no less, sadly, it wouldn't surprise me. i just hope the majority of americans feel and think as i do. so a big HELL NO to mccain.....and YES to obama! from a domestic AND foreign relations pov, i think it is SO necessary.
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,384
    the rest of the world is watching this election

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_re_as/us_elections_world_view


    JAKARTA, Indonesia – When Sri Murtiningsi asked her third graders what they wanted to be when they grew up, the answers ranged from doctors to a pilot. One boy in the class raised his hand: Barack Obama said his dream was to be president of the United States.
    Forty years later Murtiningsi — like the rest of the world — is watching closely as Americans prepare to head to the polls Tuesday.
    "Barry was the only one who said he wanted to be president ... I hope his dream comes true," Murtiningsi said of Obama, who spent four years living in Indonesia as a child.
    Many believe Obama's international experience would go a long way in helping repair damage caused by the unpopular U.S.-led war in Iraq, with recent opinion polls from more than 70 nations favoring him a resounding three-to-one over Republican John McCain.
    Newspapers across the globe came out in support of the Democratic candidate Monday.
    "Obama the best hope for U.S. revival," said an editorial in The Australian Financial Review. The Gulf News, an English-language paper in the United Arab Emirates, agreed, saying only he could "undo the great damage done by the Bush administration to America's image," especially in the Middle East. Obama "deserves to win," declared The Irish Times.
    In Israel, though, where McCain is popular, the Maariv daily reported that officials are worried about an Obama presidency because of his willingness to hold diplomatic talks with Iran. Israel believes the international community must not embrace Iran's president, who has repeatedly called for Israel's destruction.
    "Obama is very naive about how things work in the Middle East. He thinks that by being nice to Iran they will stop building nuclear weapons and stop threatening us. He doesn't understand that being nice doesn't work in our region," said Ariel Hajaj, a 36-year-old Jerusalem contractor. "McCain understands the way things work here better his approach is more suited the Middle East and he would be better for Israel."
    Obama's presidential bid has sparked excitement in Kenya, home to his late father, with thousands turning out for the Democratic candidate's last visit in 2006.
    "Everybody is extremely happy and excited and looking forward to celebrating the day after the elections," said Malik Obama, the candidate's half brother.
    In the sleepy Japanese coastal town of Obama — which translates as "little beach," images of the Democratic candidate adorn banners along a main shopping street and preparations for an election day victory party were in full swing Monday.
    Koichi Inoue, who makes traditional sweet bean cakes, said his factory was working at double normal production because he had promised free handouts for every customer if Obama came out on top.
    "It looks like he is going to win from the polls so I've got to be ready," he said.
    Election fever was also high in Vietnam, where McCain was held prisoner of war for more than five years after the U.S. fighter pilot was shot down in Hanoi during a 1967 bombing run.
    Le Lan Anh, a Hanoi real estate tycoon and novelist, says McCain is "a great man," because he passed up the opportunity to leave prison early ahead of other U.S. inmates.
    "He's patriotic. As a soldier, he came here to destroy my country, but I admire his dignity," she said.
    As a U.S. senator in the 1990s, McCain helped normalize bilateral relations, so he is "someone who understands Vietnam," said Phan Manh Tien, 54, a retired soldier and truck driver. Still, he prefers Obama because he sees the Democrat as less hawkish.
    Many in Pakistan, a close ally in the U.S. war on terror, will be glued to television sets on Election Day. The results, they say, will have broad implications for their own country and neighboring Afghanistan, where American forces have been battling the Taliban and its al-Qaida allies.
    The last eight years have "affected our economy and our peace," said Mohammad Zubair, a 33-year-old lawyer in Lahore, who anticipates an Obama win. "I hope the election will bring change to Pakistan as well."
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I believe, that if Americans choose McCain, they will be turning their back on the rest of the world, choosing to show them four more years of the Bush-Cheney 'fuck you' finger. And I predict a deeply unpleasant shift.

    Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood. Outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism, opposition to this specific administration. But if McCain wins in November, that might well change. Suddenly Europeans and others will conclude that their dispute is with not only one ruling clique, but Americans themselves. For it will have been the American people, not the politicians, who will have passed up a chance for a fresh start, and whether we like it or not, a fresh start the world is yearning for.

    see: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=307861
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    This thread proves that the OP and most of you in here have no idea what McCain stands for or who he is. Very sad. "Lets vote for the popular guy because he looks good and speaks well. He says change so hey thats for me".
    Please people. At least understand what McCain is all about and what he believes in.

    Bunch of lambs.
    Excuse me?

    I know exactly what my candidate stands for. I'm a Kucinich supporter but i have already voted Obama this election. I have been ouotspoken for months over why i am offering my support to him.
    I am so sick of the fuckwits that come on here and post trolling things like you do to try and get a rise out of people. You criticize me, and yet are the person who made a thread back on the 30th of September saying you were undecided who to vote for.

    I like McCain but Palin scares me to death.
    I Kinda like Obama but I don't like a lot of what his party stands for.
    I believe Obama really wants to make huge difference in office but I just can't get around his party.
    I would be for McCain totally until Palin came along. That was a stupid choice and that make me rethink his decision making.

    I have never been into politics until the past two years and I don't know much detail about any of it. But, this is how I feel from what I have read.

    Anyone else still undecided?

    Yeah.

    Loser.
  • angryyoungmanangryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    MrBrian wrote:
    I dont really care that most people supported the war on Afghanistan. universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

    I know many people died on 9/11, that does not mean you go invade another country with only revenge on your mind. Americans did not even wonder why they got attacked.

    You even admit about the little questioning. Is that not a big problem to you?

    Another thing, yes Bush and co lied to the American people, but why did the Americans not find any info out for themselves? Did you fall for the Iraq war story? I didnt.

    Most of the world did not fall for it. It was obvioulsy a bad idea. It's just an excuse "They lied to us"
    wow, you're all over the place but i'll try to address everything you wrote. . .first i'd like to know what universal truth is, please enlighten me. . .the attackers motives were secondary in importance to bringing them to justice i would say. . .do you not understand that that was an act of war on our country. . .ultimately no one cares why they did it, they needed to be brought to justice for there actions, plane and simple. . .im not sure what to say about your other point. . .i guess cause im not carmen santiago and i don't get to travel the world regularly to investigate these things so i really on various media outlets for my information? i was never really sure about their story, and im sure alot of other people didnt as well. . .but we arent the policy makers of our country. . .you are supposed to be able to trust the leaders of your country to do the right thing and when its discovered they don't people will cry foul
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  • The majority of the terrorists who were on those planes on 9-11 were Saudis. Why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia?
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    The majority of the terrorists who were on those planes on 9-11 were Saudis. Why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia?

    WELL, we like Saudi Arabia they are our friends besides we're America and WE can attack any country we want. Just as long as the American citizens will buy it AND most of us usually do or you'll be just considered UNPATRIOTIC.

    I NEVER bought it.

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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    g under p wrote:
    WELL, we like Saudi Arabia they are our friends besides we're America and WE can attack any country we want. Just as long as the American citizens will buy it AND most of us usually do or you'll be just considered UNPATRIOTIC.

    I NEVER bought it.

    Peace
    neither did I. And I believe there is a very strong case to be made that even the invasion of Afghanstan was a serious crime.
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