Cosmo

Anon
Anon Posts: 11,175
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Everything i have written or read today, seems insignificant after reading Cosmo's post. Truer words have never been spoken.

Thank you Cosmo.
Cosmo wrote:
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I believe we may be bearing witness to the decline of America as the world's leading Super Power. I also believe that History will record that this place and time is when we lost our grasp and the power of China rose to take our place.
Is it the end of America? NO. Remember, it wasn't all that long ago when Britania was the world's greatest Super Power. Did they disappear? NO. They remain a great country that enjoys Freedom and Democracy (they just need to let go of that bullshit figurehead Monarchy they got that the old guard is clinging to).
We have no one to blame but ourselves. Our greed and arrogance is our downfall. We were given a once in a lifetime opportunity to solidify our place as the World's Leader... a benevolent, caring Super Power who had more friends than enemies... but, we squandered it with our arrogance and self-righteousness. We **should** have... could have lead the world... but we decided to go it alone and lost the respect of both friends and enemies along the way. America has lost her way and we need to get her back on track. We may not be the leader in the future... but, it will not be the end of America... unless we let our arrogance destroy us.
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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Cosmo is wise... has always been

    What is comforting about this and different is the very important recognition that we will not cease .. and can live on in peace and prosperity even after squandering our opportunity. What has transpired is embarassing, but it aint over till its over.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    We still are the world's leader. Everytime any disaster hits anywhere we help, no matter where it happens.

    Our economic dominance may be at an end though. That started when we stopped building things and shipped jobs elsewhere, we are really hurting from it now.
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...I also believe that History will record that this place and time is when we lost our grasp and the power of China rose to take our place.

    In the meantime people keep shopping at Wal-Mart to save a buck on some garbage Chinese made t-shirt that falls apart after a few washes. I've said it before that people need to look at EVERYTHING that they buy, down to toothpaste. Sure there are some things that we have no choice but there are choices on almost everything. If you buy something made in a foreign country when there is a perfectly good USA made alternative then you are directly to blame for the problems we are having today. It is your fault.

    Personally I willingly pay more for American made goods because I have pride in my country and more importantly myself.


    Seriously when will people get it? How many problems have there been with Chinese made goods? Lead paint on toys, bad tires, melamine killing our pets, the list goes on and on. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I'm glad to see that Cosmo blames himself. That's fitting.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    know1 wrote:
    I'm glad to see that Cosmo blames himself. That's fitting.
    What's fitting? Care to clue me in?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I think it's fitting in that I believe people who share similar philosophies about the economy, foreign policy, etc. as Cosmo are the ones bringing down the the U.S.. I was glad to see Cosmo admit that "we have no one to blame but ourselves". You don't see too many people accept responsibilities these days.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    unsung wrote:
    We still are the world's leader. Everytime any disaster hits anywhere we help, no matter where it happens.

    :confused:

    so does Britain.. does that make us world leaders also?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    know1 wrote:
    I think it's fitting in that I believe people who share similar philosophies about the economy, foreign policy, etc. as Cosmo are the ones bringing down the the U.S.. I was glad to see Cosmo admit that "we have no one to blame but ourselves". You don't see too many people accept responsibilities these days.
    Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation other than a sarcastic comment. If you disagreed you could've at least said why.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    unsung wrote:
    In the meantime people keep shopping at Wal-Mart to save a buck on some garbage Chinese made t-shirt that falls apart after a few washes. I've said it before that people need to look at EVERYTHING that they buy, down to toothpaste. Sure there are some things that we have no choice but there are choices on almost everything. If you buy something made in a foreign country when there is a perfectly good USA made alternative then you are directly to blame for the problems we are having today. It is your fault.

    Personally I willingly pay more for American made goods because I have pride in my country and more importantly myself.


    Seriously when will people get it? How many problems have there been with Chinese made goods? Lead paint on toys, bad tires, melamine killing our pets, the list goes on and on. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    hey ... what you are espousing are socialist ideologies ... be careful ... :p
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    dunkman wrote:
    :confused:

    so does Britain.. does that make us world leaders also?
    You know what i've noticed here Dunk. It's not like Britian or Australia and New Zealand where we have close ties with each other and respect each other as allies. Here, i see this so often, it's like there's the US and the rest of the world just doesn't exist. Just ask them, whatever you can do, they can do better, and it's their way or the highway. I don't know if it's because their country is so much bigger than ours or what it is, but it's very different.

    I mean the rivalry between Australia and the Poms and the Sheep shaggers is friendly, we genuinely like each other, but here, the rivalry between canada and the US is not at all friendly.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    You know what i've noticed here Dunk. It's not like Britian or Australia and New Zealand where we have close ties with each other and respect each other as allies. Here, i see this so often, it's like there's the US and the rest of the world just doesn't exist. Just ask them, whatever you can do, they can do better, and it's their way or the highway. I don't know if it's because their country is so much bigger than ours or what it is, but it's very different.

    I mean the rivalry between Australia and the Poms and the Sheep shaggers is friendly, we genuinely like each other, but here, the rivalry between canada and the US is not at all friendly.

    having been to NZ twice and Australia and traveled much of the US ... i would say you're off the mark here ...

    US-Canada relations are great at the person level ... here in Canada, we often criticize americans for this that and the other but it's not malicious ... we get along quite well ...

    i would say we're no different than how aussies treat and feel about kiwis ...
  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Everything i have written or read today, seems insignificant after reading Cosmo's post. Truer words have never been spoken.

    Thank you Cosmo.


    Personally, I don't see why it's such a great post. It's common sense to say 1st place will at some point in time drop to 2nd. To say that's happening now, is a bit more of a risk. But, a "wow" statement it is not.

    As for the substance, emerging-markets (like China) are going to get crushed by a fall in U.S. consumption. We still hold the world economy on our shoulders and will for the forseeable future (look at the dollar recently). China may surpass us, but it won't be any time soon and it won't be because of this particular recession.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    There's no such thing as a "a benevolent, caring Super Power". Once you look at how that nation became a superpower in the first place, it's obvious how delusional it is to think that one nation can peacefully "lead the world". History makes that incredibly clear. Every empire falls for the same basic reasons, and none of them ever had a chance to prevent it, because they're all inherently evil.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    polaris wrote:
    having been to NZ twice and Australia and traveled much of the US ... i would say you're off the mark here ...

    US-Canada relations are great at the person level ... here in Canada, we often criticize americans for this that and the other but it's not malicious ... we get along quite well ...

    i would say we're no different than how aussies treat and feel about kiwis ...
    I probably didn't explain properly what i meant. I definitely did not want to come across as 'bashing'the US because i clearly love it here and it's my home now. When i first moved here, conversation would come up about things like the war in Iraq for an example, and most people i spoke to didn't even know that Australia has military there to support the US soldiers. I found that amazing. Then i would hear comments like 'how many troops' and it was almost like pfffft that's such a small insignificant amount. Coming from a small country like Australia, we had such close ties with our Allies like Britian and New Zealand and we knew what they were up to. Maybe that's because we were so remote there. I don't know.

    Here it just feels like like we (USA) are on our own. That's what i mean. Hopefully i explained that better this time.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I probably didn't explain properly what i meant. I definitely did not want to come across as 'bashing'the US because i clearly love it here and it's my home now. When i first moved here, conversation would come up about things like the war in Iraq for an example, and most people i spoke to didn't even know that Australia has military there to support the US soldiers. I found that amazing. Then i would hear comments like 'how many troops' and it was almost like pfffft that's such a small insignificant amount. Coming from a small country like Australia, we had such close ties with our Allies like Britian and New Zealand and we knew what they were up to. Maybe that's because we were so remote there. I don't know.

    Here it just feels like like we (USA) are on our own. That's what i mean. Hopefully i explained that better this time.

    oh ... if that's what you meant - then you're spot on!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    dunkman wrote:
    :confused:

    so does Britain.. does that make us world leaders also?


    I would consider Great Britain one of the leaders, yes. I'd probably also include Germany and Japan, possibly Canada.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    unsung wrote:
    I would consider Great Britain one of the leaders, yes. I'd probably also include Germany and Japan, possibly Canada.


    oh so its a shared thing now?

    unsung wrote:
    We still are the world's leader. Everytime any disaster hits anywhere we help, no matter where it happens.

    leader (singular)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    unsung wrote:
    I would consider Great Britain one of the leaders, yes. I'd probably also include Germany and Japan, possibly Canada.

    canada is not a world leader in anything ... we used to be on some issues ... not anymore ... we are world derailers ...
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    polaris wrote:
    canada is not a world leader in anything


    surely Maple Syrup exports?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    dunkman wrote:
    surely Maple Syrup exports?

    how could i forget!?? ... hockey players and maple syrup!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    polaris wrote:
    having been to NZ twice and Australia and traveled much of the US ... i would say you're off the mark here ...

    US-Canada relations are great at the person level ... here in Canada, we often criticize americans for this that and the other but it's not malicious ... we get along quite well ...

    i would say we're no different than how aussies treat and feel about kiwis ...
    i have also traveled most of the US and i agree that its a great country with wonderful people, i think the problem is there government, and the 2 party system that elects these governments.

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