Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich

dontloseyourheat

These two presidential candidates from different parties are compared frequently: both are against needless wars in Iran and Iraq and refuse to fund them, both voted against the PATRIOT Act and continue to oppose it, both are unusual “underdog” candidates with large followings, and both claim they will bring a revolution to America’s government by returning to the values of the Constitution.

http://bluenc.com/the-difference-between-ron-paul-and-dennis-kucinich

Article goes on to point out how many voters are supporting Ron Paul for the wrong reasons. Obviously biased article but it makes some good points.

farfromglorified

It's really funny to see the disappointment on the left that the "cool" candidate this year is running in the Republican primary. The author here doesn't seem to recognize that the young vote in this country is partly swinging away from the dominant Liberal establishment while also rejecting the neo-conservative trends we've seen in the last 20 years. Young voters are starting to pay attention to economics for the first time in 40 years and people are refusing to recognize this and instead throwing up their hands and wondering why the young are no longer easily swayed by bribes and appeals to their emotions.

Now, I do agree to an extent that some Ron Paul supporters would definitely be better served by Kucinich. However, I think a lot of people are missing the fact that Ron Paul is more than an anti-war, anti-patriot act candidate. There's more to the man and, more importantly, more to the philosophy that he's pushing. The left needs to wake up and ask itself why young people in this country are beginning to turn their backs on Keynesian economics instead of pretending that the young are simply stupid or misguided.

DriftingByTheStorm

farfromglorified wrote:

[...]why [are] young people in this country are beginning to turn their backs on Keynesian economics[?]

Uh.
Because Keynesian economics has turned its back on us!



[and its really more White-iean economics ... Keyenes wanted the pound to be the defacto world currency, White wanted the dollar. ]

farfromglorified

Wow...you really did a number there attempting to attribute a statement to me. At least take my name of the quote when you have to mangle it that much.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Uh.
Because Keynesian economics has turned its back on us!

Sure - Keynesian economics has some serious flaws. However, best keep in mind that Keynes pretty much saved the West in the early part of this century by slowing the march of socialism through Europe and America. Furthermore, you'd be wise to recognize the immense growth of the American economy during the time that Keynesian mindsets reigned. Deny reality at your own risk.

macgyver06

You Guys Have To Be The Most Gullible F**kers On This Board

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

You Guys Have To Be The Most Gullible F**kers On This Board

We know already. You have told us to the point of it being naustiating.

macgyver06

mammasan wrote:

We know already. You have told us to the point of it being naustiating.

the original constitution

all troops out of iraq..


hahahahahahaaaha

im just glad the election is next novemeber...ive got this weird feeling alot will change by then and all these threads will be in the archives..and im gonna bring them back to life for you dumbasses

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

the original constitution

all troops out of iraq..


hahahahahahaaaha

im just glad the election is next novemeber...ive got this weird feeling alot will change by then and all these threads will be in the archives..and im gonna bring them back to life for you dumbasses

Of course you will because you are so much brighter and aware than we are. Your insight is unrivaled by any here. I mean just look at the high level of intellectual discourse you posts emit. The way you label any who disagree with you dumbasses. The way you claim to know better than anyone else but yet proved no facts to support your claims. You are a scholar amongst us children. We should all humbled by your mere presense on this board.

macgyver06

mammasan wrote:

Of course you will because you are so much brighter and aware than we are. Your insight is unrivaled by any here. I mean just look at the high level of intellectual discourse you posts emit. The way you label any who disagree with you dumbasses. The way you claim to know better than anyone else but yet proved no facts to support your claims. You are a scholar amongst us children. We should all humbled by your mere presense on this board.

you said it

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

you said it

Sarcasm – the sneering, sly, jesting, or mocking of a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's fantastic" to mean "that's awful".

Rats of Multa

farfromglorified wrote:

It's really funny to see the disappointment on the left that the "cool" candidate this year is running in the Republican primary. The author here doesn't seem to recognize that the young vote in this country is partly swinging away from the dominant Liberal establishment while also rejecting the neo-conservative trends we've seen in the last 20 years. Young voters are starting to pay attention to economics for the first time in 40 years and people are refusing to recognize this and instead throwing up their hands and wondering why the young are no longer easily swayed by bribes and appeals to their emotions.

Now, I do agree to an extent that some Ron Paul supporters would definitely be better served by Kucinich. However, I think a lot of people are missing the fact that Ron Paul is more than an anti-war, anti-patriot act candidate. There's more to the man and, more importantly, more to the philosophy that he's pushing. The left needs to wake up and ask itself why young people in this country are beginning to turn their backs on Keynesian economics instead of pretending that the young are simply stupid or misguided.

wait,.. may i inquire about your age..? (just curious where/how you see yourself in relation to 'the young' of which youre referring..)

macgyver06

mammasan wrote:

Sarcasm – the sneering, sly, jesting, or mocking of a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's fantastic" to mean "that's awful".

ahh like this


mammasan doesnt feel inferior intellectually to macgyver06

is this an example?

macgyver06

mammasan wrote:

Of course you will because you are so much brighter and aware than we are. Your insight is unrivaled by any here. I mean just look at the high level of intellectual discourse you posts emit. The way you label any who disagree with you dumbasses. The way you claim to know better than anyone else but yet proved no facts to support your claims. You are a scholar amongst us children. We should all humbled by your mere presense on this board.

i almost forgot this one...you talking abo ut facts... hahah your ready to endorse a candidate with no numbers of any kind... facts..lets post his voting record??? huh.... lets post some number on TEXAS health... lets post some words talking about oil from ron paul... where are these facts

lol

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

ahh like this


mammasan doesnt feel inferior intellectually to macgyver06

is this an example?

I do not consider myself a genius or think that I know everything, because I certainly do not, but I am definitely positive that you are intellectually inferior to me.

I do have to admit that your posts do bring me great joy. On these slow boring days at work, with everything slowing down for the holidays, your utter nonsense just makes me laugh. I would have never thought in a thousand years that one individual could be so ignorant and utterly brain dead, but yet think so highly of himself. It is so sad that it actually becomes funny. Even some of my coworkers come to see your posts because of the shear stupidity they amount to. It's like watching a train wreck.

macgyver06

mammasan wrote:

I do not consider myself a genius or think that I know everything, because I certainly do not, but I am definitely positive that you are intellectually inferior to me.

I do have to admit that your posts do bring me great joy. On these slow boring days at work, with everything slowing down for the holidays, your utter nonsense just makes me laugh. I would have never thought in a thousand years that one individual could be so ignorant and utterly brain dead, but yet think so highly of himself. It is so sad that it actually becomes funny. Even some of my coworkers come to see your posts because of the shear stupidity they amount to. It's like watching a train wreck.

do they walk away after they laugh?

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

i almost forgot this one...you talking abo ut facts... hahah your ready to endorse a candidate with no numbers of any kind... facts..lets post his voting record??? huh.... lets post some number on TEXAS health... lets post some words talking about oil from ron paul... where are these facts

lol

http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929

I don't care about his poll numbers. This is not a popularity contest. I vote for the candidate who closest represents my ideals. Ron Paul is that candidate. Above is his voting record, which is far more consistant that any other candidate except for Kucinich. You don't have to like him or even vote for him, but you know nothing about him and your attacks on him and his supporters are baseless and only emphasize how massively foolish you are.

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

do they walk away after they laugh?

No they usually stick around to see the next pile of shit you will post.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I used to think vote democrat, but asking for more government at a moment in time like we have now is a huge mistake.

I'm really shocked at the people on the left side (especially) not looking into Ron Paul at greater depth, but rather straining to find good points in Obama or Hillary or Edwards even. Kinda fcuked up indeed. Left or die will ensure a quick death if the message isn't right. More government is curse right now. THAT is a disaster for sure. Left....right....at present, it's all an illusion.

I'll say it a million times with complete confidence that Ron Paul is the best thing going.

There's nothing better available for order on the menu. There just isn't....it's not there.

macgyver06

mammasan wrote:

http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929

I don't care about his poll numbers. This is not a popularity contest. I vote for the candidate who closest represents my ideals. Ron Paul is that candidate. Above is his voting record, which is far more consistant that any other candidate except for Kucinich. You don't have to like him or even vote for him, but you know nothing about him and your attacks on him and his supporters are baseless and only emphasize how massively foolish you are.

my point is you are being fooled by the republican party. who do you think ron paul is going to endorse for president?? who do you think republicans than in turn expect you to endorse with a single vote.

mammasan

macgyver06 wrote:

my point is you are being fooled by the republican party. who do you think ron paul is going to endorse for president?? who do you think republicans than in turn expect you to endorse with a single vote.

The Republican Party does not endorse Ron Paul. The Republican party probably hates Ron Paul because he is pretty much against everything they stand for. If Ron Paul is not nominated I really don't care who he endorses for president. I'm not going to vote for that person simply because Ron Paul told me to. If you actually knew anything about Ron Paul, which you don't, you would know that he is running as a Republican because it is extremely difficult for a 3rd party candidate to get on the ballot of all 50 states. It takes a tremendous amount of money and time to accomplish this. That is resource that could be put to better use now, like campaigning. So by running as a Republican he does not have to divert resources and finances to accomplish thisw and he is invited to the primary debates where he can get his message out to a national audience. If he ran as a 3rd party candidate this would have been impossible.

It's pretty funny that you would mock people for voting based on party affiliation, but here you are doing pretty much the samething. You are completely knocking an honest candidate simply because of the party he belongs to.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

macgyver06 wrote:

my point is you are being fooled by the republican party. who do you think ron paul is going to endorse for president?? who do you think republicans than in turn expect you to endorse with a single vote.

Are you saying Ron Paul is a con artist for the republican party concocted to steal votes on pure lies?

That's beyond conspiracy, I'm not sure what that ideology is called.