If Pro-Lifers Really Believed the Unborn Were Human...

CorporateWhore
CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Post edited by Unknown User on
«134

Comments

  • we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.

    that's it!!!!!!
    the Minions
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

    I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

    If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

    If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

    Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

    So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

    I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.

    the last sentence is the correct answer. as to the rest, there are laws against blocking access to clinics. the fetus is certainly not human enough to risk going to jail over.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    why don't kids protest the high cost of college?
    why don't people protest for better healthcare?
    why don't people protest high gas prices?

    yeah, i don't get it either.
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

    I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

    If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

    If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

    Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

    So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

    I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.


    So why don't YOU do something about it rather that just make posts on a Pearl Jam message board?

    Get involved man! Don't be a coward!
    Why do you reference "we"? Can't you just go do something on your own? Stand up to those nutjob baby-killing liberals!
  • iamica
    iamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

    I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

    If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

    If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

    Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

    So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

    I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.

    Maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and adopt or foster a kid yourself.
    Chicago 2000 : Chicago 2003 : Chicago 2006 : Summerfest 2006 : Lollapalooza 2007 : Chicago 2009 : Noblesville (Indy) 2010 : PJ20 (East Troy) 2011 : Wrigley Field 2013 : Milwaukee (Yield) 2014 : Wrigley Field 2016
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    iamica wrote:
    Maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and adopt or foster a kid yourself.

    Probably because, that like...costs money, and is a horrible inconvenience.

    What are you thinking?!?!
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    mca47 wrote:
    So why don't YOU do something about it rather that just make posts on a Pearl Jam message board?

    Get involved man! Don't be a coward!
    Why do you reference "we"? Can't you just go do something on your own? Stand up to those nutjob baby-killing liberals!

    Well maybe he feels so much more power in typing up words than hitting the road to make something happen. Experience it yourself you're not far away march and protest, man.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • i vote pro-choice because of the choice. Who is anyone to tell someone what they could do with there body?

    I find it funny how bush, mccain etc.. Can be pro life and pro war.
    Tour with fucking NOFX
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    g under p wrote:
    Well maybe he feels so much more power in typing up words than hitting the road to make something happen. Experience it yourself you're not far away march and protest, man.

    Peace

    I think so too. Oh well, if that's contributing to the cause then so be it. Who am I to judge levels of involvement?
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    i vote pro-choice because of the choice. Who is anyone to tell someone what they could do with there body?

    I find it funny how bush, mccain etc.. Can be pro life and pro war.


    That's because a ball of cells is so pure, and so innocent (except in the eyes of a typical Christian god...you know since we all live in sin) ...how could you end the life of a non-living creature? How dare you?
    Dropping a 20 ton bomb into a village of possible "evil-doers" or potential "terrorists" is completely justified. If if kills 200 innocent and kills 1 terrorist, I can sleep good at night.


    :eek:
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    why don't people protest high gas prices?

    yeah, i don't get it either.

    what exactly would protesting high gas prices do? the government can't lower the price. (unless you want them to take away the taxes on gas)
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

    I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

    If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

    If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

    Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

    So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

    I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.

    This is just an assumption, but I honestly believe that pro-life politicians really don't want abortions outlawed. As far as spending and continued increase of government, Republicans are pretty much the same as Democrats in that aspect so abortion is one of the major issues that defines them. Without that issue how could they possible garner the support of en extremely well funded, very vocal and very well organized Christian Right. The Pro-Lifers and Republicans need their support, excuse me money, so they need abortion on the table as an issue.

    As to the average citizen I can't give you a reason as to why they don't do more.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mca47 wrote:
    That's because a ball of cells is so pure, and so innocent (except in the eyes of a typical Christian god...you know since we all live in sin) ...how could you end the life of a non-living creature? How dare you?
    Dropping a 20 ton bomb into a village of possible "evil-doers" or potential "terrorists" is completely justified. If if kills 200 innocent and kills 1 terrorist, I can sleep good at night.


    :eek:

    Sarcasm at its best, or at least i hope. ;)
    Tour with fucking NOFX
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

    I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

    If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

    If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

    Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

    So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

    I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.

    1. There is now a law against blockading clinics, which wasn't around in the '80s.

    2. This past December, there was a guy here in town who didn't want his girlfriend to have an abortion so he fire-bombed the clinic. The clinic was a total loss, but all the patients still got their abortions. This kind of "direct action" doesn't stop anything.
  • mca47 wrote:
    That's because a ball of cells is so pure, and so innocent (except in the eyes of a typical Christian god...you know since we all live in sin) ...how could you end the life of a non-living creature? How dare you?
    Dropping a 20 ton bomb into a village of possible "evil-doers" or potential "terrorists" is completely justified. If if kills 200 innocent and kills 1 terrorist, I can sleep good at night.


    :eek:


    That's how it works. Drop those bombs on people like rain, but whatever you do just don't kill an unborn child!!!! :eek:

    It's pretty insane, but in this case religion is a disease. That I am sure of. so give us yer money...er I mean pass the collection plate...

    keep passing the the tax free collection plate forward...

    lunacy...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    That's how it works. Drop those bombs on people like rain, but whatever you do just don't kill an unborn child!!!! :eek:

    It's pretty insane, but in this case religion is a disease. That I am sure of. so give us yer money...er I mean pass the collection plate...

    keep passing the the tax free collection plate forward...

    lunacy...


    Agreed!
  • Then wouldn't they act to stop abortion more directly? In the '80s, numerous protest groups blocked the entrances to abortion clinics for instance. Even more extreme behavior has been done by others, which I do not necessarily approve of.

    I've always wondered about this question, as a strongly pro-life voter.

    If you saw someone who was about to be killed, and you could stop it, would you?

    If you didn't, would you consider yourself a coward?

    Instead of acting right then to stop the murder, would you simply vote against that behavior? Maybe down the road it will be stopped, while the killing continues...

    So many pro-lifers claim to view the unborn child as a human being, just like you and I. But they don't treat it like a human being, because if they did, there'd be more people doing direct action to stop abortion.

    I look at the left wing scum protesting for fairy tales and tiddlywinks at the RNC, and I think of how much more important stopping abortion is. And yet we don't do nearly as much as the anarchist nincompoops. It either shows that we're cowards or we don't really believe the unborn child is a human being worth defending.

    Good points...

    I always wondered why staunch pro-lifers aren't opposed to capital punishment or anti-war, which would fall under extremely later term abortion.
  • That's how it works. Drop those bombs on people like rain, but whatever you do just don't kill an unborn child!!!! :eek:

    It's pretty insane, but in this case religion is a disease. That I am sure of. so give us yer money...er I mean pass the collection plate...

    keep passing the the tax free collection plate forward...

    lunacy...

    I have a serious problem with dropping bombs on the camel jockeys and I also oppose abortion.

    If you saw that a camel jockey was about to get shot, would you try to stop it?

    If pro-life people really believe unborn babies are human beings (which I do), why do we not do more to fight abortion? At least as much as the douchebag leftist protestors at the RNC.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    I have a serious problem with dropping bombs on the camel jockeys and I also oppose abortion.

    If you saw that a camel jockey was about to get shot, would you try to stop it?

    If pro-life people really believe unborn babies are human beings (which I do), why do we not do more to fight abortion? At least as much as the douchebag leftist protestors at the RNC.

    I'm not clear on what exactly you're suggesting they do...
  • I have a serious problem with dropping bombs on the camel jockeys and I also oppose abortion.

    If you saw that a camel jockey was about to get shot, would you try to stop it?

    If pro-life people really believe unborn babies are human beings (which I do), why do we not do more to fight abortion? At least as much as the douchebag leftist protestors at the RNC.

    I think your opinion might hold a little more water if you didn't use "camel jockey" and "douche bag leftist protesters" in your posts. Those "douche bags" have just as much right to protest in front of the RNC as would you in front of an abortion clinic if you so choose.

    As long as no one is fire bombing clinics or convention centers, express your opinions.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.