Is it just me, or does there seem to be a lot more right-wingers on this board?

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  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    cutback wrote:
    tipper gore was the co-founder of the pmrc

    lieberman wants to censor hollywood just as much as christians

    lieberman's not a left-winger. tipper gore i'll grant you, but she wasn't an elected official. just a bored woman looking for a cause. the right runs whole campaigns on this stuff.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Open wrote:
    So you would rather support someone who spends TRILLIONS on another country...those goddam illegals taking our jobs while our boys in Iraq...hahaha


    I don't support George Bush. I also do not support John McCain.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    callen wrote:
    howd that work for you n last eight years?


    I've done very well, thank you. I know with Obama it would be worse.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    catch22 wrote:
    lieberman's not a left-winger. tipper gore i'll grant you, but she wasn't an elected official. just a bored woman looking for a cause. the right runs whole campaigns on this stuff.

    i know lieberman is a bad example but i think my point is made....republicans/democrats are really the same shit...but yes of course the conservatives are uptight prudes who are afraid of their own genitals
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    cutback wrote:
    i know lieberman is a bad example but i think my point is made....republicans/democrats are really the same shit...but yes of course the conservatives are uptight prudes who are afraid of their own genitals

    the dems only pose on these issues because they're scared of the right destroying their reputation if they don't ;)
    and like that... he's gone.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    decides2dream wrote:
    :D



    i fully love the 'objectivity' in the first post...so well done.
    'rational'...hahahahahahaahahahaqhahahahahahahaa...........


    pfft! :p Why let objectivity get in the way of a good story? :D
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    catch22 wrote:
    the dems only pose on these issues because they're scared of the right destroying their reputation if they don't ;)

    yup!
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    catch22 wrote:
    how so?

    unless you're talking about leftist revolutionaries in south america and the like, that makes no sense. here in the states, it's the right doing the censoring... blue laws, banning strip clubs, adult stores, calling special sessions of congress to investigate janet jackson's tit, getting harry potter removed from school libraries because it is turning children in satan-worshippers... the right has a stranglehold on censorship over here.


    Really? Ever heard of political correctness? The right are all for you smoking because they own the cigarette companies. Richard Desmond owns the UK's Daily Express - more right wing than the Daily Mail - and he has had a lucrative career as a pornographer. The whole Thatcherite ethos of consumer freedom is anti-censorship, anti-censoriousness and anti-nanny state. (Except when it came to us Irish. She was almost as bad as Labour's Roy Mason then.) The whole Brown ethos of collective social responsibility has its roots in diehard Presbyterianism. The Labour movement in the UK grew up hand-in-hand with Methodism. Censoriousness and notions of world-betterment are the antithesis of the game-theory espousing form of "individualistic liberalism" that is Thatcherite-Reaganite conservativism in full flow. Ah, but now I'm confusing people with the way I suggested that liberalism was a conservative concept which has little to do with socialism. Read Raymond Williams. All will be clearer.
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Really? Ever heard of political correctness? The right are all for you smoking because they own the cigarette companies. Richard Desmond owns the UK's Daily Express - more right wing than the Daily Mail - and he has had a lucrative career as a pornographer. The whole Thatcherite ethos of consumer freedom is anti-censorship, anti-censoriousness and anti-nanny state. The whole Brown ethos of collective social responsibility has its roots in diehard Presbyterianism. The Labour movement in the UK grew up hand-in-hand with Methodism. Censoriousness and notions of world-betterment are the antithesis of the game-theory espousing form of "individualistic liberalism" that is Thatcherite-Reaganite conservativism in full flow. Ah, but now I'm confusing people with the way I suggested that liberalism was a conservative concept which has little to do with socialism. Read Raymond Williams. All will be clearer.

    pc on the left is annoying, i'll grant you that. but i see a lot of pissing and moaning on that front here, whereas the right is actually organizing and passing laws on this stuff. furthermore, except for the token reagan nod, all those examples are british. things must be a bit different over there. it sounds like your conservatives are what our conservatives USED to be and now only pay lip service to while acting as puppets for christian fundamentalists.

    on the flip side, saying a worker's movement was tied to methodism does not make is conservative. there have been a number of very liberal alliances between religion and social causes... slavery, women's rights, and worker's rights being among them. but that was 100 years ago or so and things have changed and religion is now aligned with social conservatism.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    cutback wrote:
    hehehehehehehe


    ya know i was raised a republican and the current party and it's followers are no where close to being what i believe to be republicans....the christian right destroyed the party and is slowly destroying this country

    which is why i've voted libertarian for the last 16 years...although they are a bit too extreme for me, i agree with the core values


    Yeah, I was raised in a staunch Labour environment to some extent. Lot of wharfies, truckies, painters and dockers and very much anti Liberal, silvertail sentiment. Stick FAT comrades!!! :D I was also greatly influenced by the Green leanings of the other side of my family. One thing that ALWAYS cracks me up when I get here is that I'm instantly labelled a "liberal" :D And for all that my voting style has changed over the years, there is NO HOPE IN HELL EVER that the Liberal Party in this country or any of its affiliates will ever secure my vote. :D

    So yeah, by all means label me a Liberal. It cracks me up! :D

    I find that I can no longer give my vote to the Labour party in this country, particularly given some of the outrageously "Liberal like" leanings they have shown in recent years, so these days I'm always voting with the more extremist parties. I realize they have no chance of actually securing overall power and I wouldn't want them too either, but I do enjoy being able to get a few of them into parliament to "help keep the bastards honest" like the Labour party used to before they became a parody of their former selves. :)

    Personally I think the whole system is flawed. I'll always be wanting the best representatives for the job in power. But I guess we'll always be stuck with politicians instead.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    catch22 wrote:
    pc on the left is annoying, i'll grant you that. but i see a lot of pissing and moaning on that front here, whereas the right is actually organizing and passing laws on this stuff. furthermore, except for the token reagan nod, all those examples are british. things must be a bit different over there. it sounds like your conservatives are what our conservatives USED to be and now only pay lip service to while acting as puppets for christian fundamentalists.

    on the flip side, saying a worker's movement was tied to methodism does not make is conservative. there have been a number of very liberal alliances between religion and social causes... slavery, women's rights, and worker's rights being among them. but that was 100 years ago or so and things have changed and religion is now aligned with social conservatism.


    It's more blurred here in the UK, and that might be the rub - to use a bowling analogy - of our divergent opinions.
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    It's more blurred here in the UK, and that might be the rub - to use a bowling analogy - of our divergent opinions.

    from my very rudimentary understanding of uk politics, i think you're right. blair and the labour party are all for war in iraq right? typically here, pro-war is conservative and pro-labor is liberal. so there is definitely some blurring there.

    bowling... is that different from american bowling? the pins and the alley and whatnot? never knew that was a bowling reference...
    and like that... he's gone.
  • edvedderrocks
    edvedderrocks Posts: 1,001
    I think it may be because after the last 8 years (I'm not saying which way I vote but...) people want things to change & they have been fed that it is time to get the Republicans out of the White House. I don't think Obama is living up tho the hype that the media has created for him.
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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    I would vote Dem, Rep, or Independant. I just disagree with more left views than right. I don't think that makes me a Rep. ?

    Fuck it, I'm running for President.......free hookers and blow for everyone!
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I've noticed a lot more anti-Obama and anti-left posts on this board than when I used to visit awhile ago.

    Is it just me, or do more and more of the posters on this board seem to be rational right wingers instead of looney leftists? :D
    Being someone who shares certain idealogies from both ends of the spectrum, I think you're all on crack. :D

    Actually, Libertarians are the only sane people. The bible thumpers and tree huggers can fuck off. :p
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I've noticed a lot more anti-Obama and anti-left posts on this board than when I used to visit awhile ago.

    Is it just me, or do more and more of the posters on this board seem to be rational right wingers instead of looney leftists? :D

    Many lefties are against Obama, because he's not very left.
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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Being someone who shares certain idealogies from both ends of the spectrum, I think you're all on crack. :D

    Actually, Libertarians are the only sane people. The bible thumpers and tree huggers can fuck off. :p

    I agree, but I don't know much about Libertarians?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I've noticed a lot more anti-Obama and anti-left posts on this board than when I used to visit awhile ago.

    Is it just me, or do more and more of the posters on this board seem to be rational right wingers instead of looney leftists? :D

    I don't think it's an issue of more right-winger vs less left-wingers. I think that many have simply tossed aside their loyalties to the Democratic party. I for one was a Democrat in my younger days but as I aged and learned I steered clear of the Democratic party, as well as the Republican party.

    What I have noticed is more Libertarian minded individuals popping up which does make me happy.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Being someone who shares certain idealogies from both ends of the spectrum, I think you're all on crack. :D

    Actually, Libertarians are the only sane people. The bible thumpers and tree huggers can fuck off. :p

    AMEN! I'm so tired of the extreme element in both major parties. I don't want to live by the bible's moral code and I don't want to live in a socialized nation. I want my government to leave me the fuck alone and let me live my life.
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  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    CorporateWhore wrote:

    Somewhere along the line, real conservatives need to reject the excesses of the Republicans and the downright traitorous Democrats.

    Traitorous? Interesting...please explain. I seem to recall the current Republican administration outing a CIA operative's identity. Seems a lot like treason to me.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.

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