Abortion and Cancer Risk

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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    I don't know why he doesn't appreciate science, you'd have to ask him. But after reading his nonsense for years, I know that he doesn't.

    What are the instances that corporate doesnt appreciate science though.

    You cant make a baseless claim against someone on the board without facts to support it.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Reardon has been criticized for potential bias in his studies. Barbara Major, of the University of Santa Barbara's department of psychology, criticizes Reardon for publicly stating desired political outcomes from his research, and for comparing women who have had an abortion to women who completed their pregnancies normally. Major and other critics assert that a more appropriate comparison would be to women who wished to abort their pregnancy but chose not to or were not allowed to do so.[3]


    Credentials
    Reardon acquired a Ph.D. in biomedical ethics from Pacific Western University, an unaccredited higher education institution considered by many to be a diploma mill.[4] [5]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reardon
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    hippiemom wrote:
    I'll start referring to the other side by whichever term they'd like just as soon as they afford me the same respect and I stop seeing the term "pro-abortion."

    Done. You are now officially labeled 'Baby Killer Enabler'.

    I know what you want to be called.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Credentials
    Reardon acquired a Ph.D. in biomedical ethics from Pacific Western University, an unaccredited higher education institution considered by many to be a diploma mill.[4] [5]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reardon

    Pacific Western University (PWU) is a distance learning university located in San Diego, California. PWU is not accredited[1][2] by any recognised accreditation body. As such, its degrees may not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions.

    Pacific Western University was established in February 1977. Currently, it offers Associate, Bachelor, and Master degrees in Business Administration, General Studies, Public Administration, and Leadership Management.

    Pacific Western University operated in the Brentwood, California suburb of Los Angeles for its first twenty years, and then moved to Westwood, California where it remained until relocating to San Diego, California in January 2006.

    According to Inside Higher Education, the school is considering changing its name to distance itself from past controversies[3].


    Pacific Western University in Hawaii
    The present Pacific Western University in California "should not be confused with"[4], the similarly-named and now defunct Pacific Western University in Hawaii, which was shut down following an action by the Hawaii state Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (DCCA)[5], although Bears' Guide asserts "Same Ownership as Pacific Western University (Hawaii), which is run by the same people from the same building."[6]. This is supported by Inside Higher Education[3].
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Western_University
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  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Just like the anti-choice Christian lunatics to try and link abortion and cancer. Next year it I bet they link abortion with the increase of gay ministers.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Just like the anti-choice Christian lunatics to try and link abortion and cancer. Next year it I bet they link abortion with the increase of gay ministers.

    I've only ever linked abortion to a 50% mortality rate. 2 go into the office, only 1 comes out alive.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    What are the instances that corporate doesnt appreciate science though.

    You cant make a baseless claim against someone on the board without facts to support it.
    Sure I can. I just did. :D

    I'm not going to go through all his posts ... and besides, most of them aren't even here anymore. I've developed an opinion of him over a long period of time, as I'm sure he has of me.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Well, dudes not even a real scientist and his organization is motivated and funded by religious organizations. I'd say the research is bunk.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Well, dudes not even a real scientist and his organization is motivated and funded by religious organizations. I'd say the research is bunk.

    Certainly it would make the data compromised...but no matter the agenda or the funding, the research still has the potential to be accurate. But, based on everything I read here, that looks like a very slim chance.

    And to be honest, it doesn't matter to me. Even if it was true, an increased chance of getting cancer after having an abortion wouldn't come close to being at the top of my list of why abortions should be illegal.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Certainly it would make the data compromised...but no matter the agenda or the funding, the research still has the potential to be accurate. But, based on everything I read here, that looks like a very slim chance.

    And to be honest, it doesn't matter to me. Even if it was true, an increased chance of getting cancer after having an abortion wouldn't come close to being at the top of my list of why abortions should be illegal.

    Well, I've learned to investigate research. There are so many bunk headlines in the news. You really gotta investigate and if there is potential for inaccuracy then I can't really trust it.

    If, this research was funded by religious groups and the findings were opposite, I might be more inclined to believe it. But it still needs corroboration and I don't see any research backing this up. I doubt it was ever released for peer review before being published and that's just deceitful.

    Nope, I don't trust it. Put it with the fashion gene article.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Done. You are now officially labeled 'Baby Killer Enabler'.

    I know what you want to be called.
    I was hoping for something with a little more flair, to be honest. But I'm sort of out of it today and I'm drawing a blank. That one is just a little ... I dunno ... blah ... but I do thank you for aiming to please :)
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    hippiemom wrote:
    I was hoping for something with a little more flair, to be honest. But I'm sort of out of it today and I'm drawing a blank. That one is just a little ... I dunno ... blah ... but I do thank you for aiming to please :)

    Pro-population control?

    Anti-fruit of the loin?

    Pro-genocide as a means of birth control?

    Hmmm, I don't like any of those. I'm not very creative today, sorry.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    hippiemom wrote:
    I don't agree that abortion is killing someone, but I'm not actually suggesting women get MORE abortions as a cancer-prevention method. I should have stuck a smilie in there to make that perfectly clear.
    abortion=murder.......

    period...



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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Pro-Mandate
    Pro-Dictatorship
    Pro-Bigotry
    Pro-Fascism
    Anti-Choice
    Anti-Freedom
    Anti-Reason
    Anti-Logic
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  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    A fetus is not a human.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Pro-Mandate
    Pro-Dictatorship
    Pro-Bigotry
    Pro-Fascism
    Anti-Choice
    Anti-Freedom
    Anti-Reason
    Anti-Logic

    You trying to label anti-abortion people all of those things? The only one that makes any sense is Anti-choice and that is the dumbest statement of all.
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  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Oh, boy, an abortion thread.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You trying to label anti-abortion people all of those things? The only one that makes any sense is Anti-choice and that is the dumbest statement of all.

    At least I'm nice about it.

    I'm not using terms like "Death" and "Genocide"
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You trying to label anti-abortion people all of those things? The only one that makes any sense is Anti-choice and that is the dumbest statement of all.

    wouldn't it technically be limited choice? We are all pro choice...we just happen to think abortion shouldn't be one of the choices.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,887
    Ahnimus wrote:
    At least I'm nice about it.

    I'm not using terms like "Death" and "Genocide"

    Not sure if you noticed that my reply was for Hippiemom and it was in jest.
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