Only if you think someone is for limited choice if they don't think murdering someone is an appropriate choice in response to something.
Abortion isn't murder.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
True. Though my opinion on war has changed significantly. My opinion on the death penalty softens from tiem to time until some sick bastard rapes and kills a kid, then I go back ot the beginning.
Anyhow, I was only messing around in this thread and probably shouldn't get into an abortion debate.
15 years ago my girlfriend had an abortion even though i offered to raise the child. to this day i wonder about that child. what he/she would have looked like; what they'd be doing right now; what they'd be like. i love that child i never knew.
I also wonder if we have aborted the person that would have cured cancer.
Impossible.
If "they would have" would imply that it was their fate, that is negated by the fact their fate was to be aborted.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
For that matter they could have obtained the world record for most abortions.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
my adopted daughter is doing wonders in the medical field against all odds. there's nothing left to chance. some people are inspired to work harder than others.
I also wonder if we have aborted the person that would have cured cancer.
It's possible. It's also possible that the child you would have conceived if you and your wife had taken today off and spent the day in bed would have cured cancer. The world will never know.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
It's possible. It's also possible that the child you would have conceived if you and your wife had taken today off and spent the day in bed would have cured cancer. The world will never know.
Or the child could grow up and be mentally retarded and you'd have to wipe his ass his entire life.
Doesn't mean we should abort him. Mentally retarded babies are just as human as geniuses - in fact, they can be some of the most beautiful people in the world.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Or the child could grow up and be mentally retarded and you'd have to wipe his ass his entire life.
Doesn't mean we should abort him. Mentally retarded babies are just as human as geniuses - in fact, they can be some of the most beautiful people in the world.
Huh?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It's possible. It's also possible that the child you would have conceived if you and your wife had taken today off and spent the day in bed would have cured cancer. The world will never know.
did you just compare a child that was aborted(murdered)............
to a child that was never conceived????
hello hippie..........
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
did you just compare a child that was aborted(murdered)............
to a child that was never conceived????
hello hippie..........
Dude, murder is done with malice.
Killed is a more suitable term, don't be such a sensationalist.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
15 years ago my girlfriend had an abortion even though i offered to raise the child. to this day i wonder about that child. what he/she would have looked like; what they'd be doing right now; what they'd be like. i love that child i never knew.
just my 2 cents.
thinking like that can do your head in. i have the same thoughts and then i look at the 4 children i have and realise the decisions i've made were for my sanity and everyone's around me.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
LOL at your attack. Because liberals on this board dont advocate an aegnda with their posts.
His initial study was a reasonable study. It didn't come to the conclusion as he dishonestly presented.
CorporateWhore has demonstrated a distortion of scientific data often employed by nonscientists with an agenda.
The essential premise of the findings is that pregnancy is protective against this cancer. And the longer one is pregnant the more effect there is. An abortion and a miscarriage are comparable in their benefit; the actual abortion procedure has no impact.
CorporateWhore's distortion is similar to suggesting that running one mile a day causes heart disease because you don't run three miles a day.
But don't take it from me either. Pose these questions to a gynecologist, or at least a medical website where they can be put in context. This discussion is generally meaningless without consideration of the other risks and benefits of pregnancy.
His initial study was a reasonable study. It didn't come to the conclusion as he dishonestly presented.
CorporateWhore has demonstrated a distortion of scientific data often employed by nonscientists with an agenda.
The essential premise of the findings is that pregnancy is protective against this cancer. And the longer one is pregnant the more effect there is. An abortion and a miscarriage are comparable in their benefit; the actual abortion procedure has no impact.
what's also interesting is that i thought birth control pills protected against some cancers, too. i may be wrong (as i'm not in school yet, but cross your fingers), but i thought it was that not ovulating was really what helped protect against some cancer. so pregnancy (which the term may be abbreviated by spontaneous or elective abortion) and birth control pills both help protect against cancer. it's not the abortion procedure that brings on cancer. it's ovulating--in a way.
this is also one reason why you might see slightly higher rates of cancer in childfree women and lesbians* (if they're not taking ocps). of course, this is not taking into account family history, but there's that too.
*edit: lesbians who have not been pregnant, sorry. because certainly they can get pregnant, too.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
Or the child could grow up and be mentally retarded and you'd have to wipe his ass his entire life.
Doesn't mean we should abort him. Mentally retarded babies are just as human as geniuses - in fact, they can be some of the most beautiful people in the world.
I notice you refer to this child as he. Really can't stand women can you Corporate Whore?
Nobody is saying that there is anything wrong with babies with problems. Or that they have any more or less right to life than the rest of us. That is a choice for the parents to make. Based on their circumstances and what they are able to provide.
But what makes you think that the choice to have them and decide to allow them to live a life time of potential suffering is any more altruistic than deciding to end their suffering before it's begun? I strongly doubt, given your previous posts, that you'd be the one wiping "his" ass anyway. I suppose your virgin, saintly, only slept with in wedlock, completely subserviant wife will be the one to do that? As far as I can see you are only here to pass your judgements and to facilitate your personal agenda. You know, not once have I heard you speak of PJ. Why are you here exactly?
...the group with the highest lifetime average of ejaculation - 21 times per month - were a third less likely to develop the cancer than the reference group, who ejaculated four to seven times a month.
It's possible. It's also possible that the child you would have conceived if you and your wife had taken today off and spent the day in bed would have cured cancer. The world will never know.
did you just compare a child that was aborted(murdered)............
to a child that was never conceived????
hello hippie..........
No, I'm just saying this is one of the sillier arguments against abortion. The odds are overwhelmingly against any single person being born. Using this logic, we all owe it to humanity to fuck like bunnies and crank out as many babies as we possibly can, just to lessen the odds of the next Dr. Salk winding up on a maxi pad and a gym sock.
There are arguments against abortion that are not at all silly, but this isn't one of them.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
.........we all owe it to humanity to fuck like bunnies and crank out as many babies as we possibly can, just to lessen the odds of the next Dr. Salk winding up on a maxi pad and a gym sock........
No, I'm just saying this is one of the sillier arguments against abortion. The odds are overwhelmingly against any single person being born. Using this logic, we all owe it to humanity to fuck like bunnies and crank out as many babies as we possibly can, just to lessen the odds of the next Dr. Salk winding up on a maxi pad and a gym sock.
There are arguments against abortion that are not at all silly, but this isn't one of them.
Only I didn't use it as an argument against abortion, just a statement.
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Only if you think someone is for limited choice if they don't think murdering someone is an appropriate choice in response to something.
Abortion isn't murder.
says the war supporter or death penalty advocate.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Word up, homie !
http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/35a796d8/1113a3f4
(not an abortion link)
lol nice!
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
True. Though my opinion on war has changed significantly. My opinion on the death penalty softens from tiem to time until some sick bastard rapes and kills a kid, then I go back ot the beginning.
Anyhow, I was only messing around in this thread and probably shouldn't get into an abortion debate.
just my 2 cents.
Impossible.
If "they would have" would imply that it was their fate, that is negated by the fact their fate was to be aborted.
Has nothing to do with fate, just chance.
For that matter they could have obtained the world record for most abortions.
my adopted daughter is doing wonders in the medical field against all odds. there's nothing left to chance. some people are inspired to work harder than others.
Or the child could grow up and be mentally retarded and you'd have to wipe his ass his entire life.
Doesn't mean we should abort him. Mentally retarded babies are just as human as geniuses - in fact, they can be some of the most beautiful people in the world.
-Enoch Powell
Huh?
did you just compare a child that was aborted(murdered)............
to a child that was never conceived????
hello hippie..........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Dude, murder is done with malice.
Killed is a more suitable term, don't be such a sensationalist.
dude
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Sensationalism
thinking like that can do your head in.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
His initial study was a reasonable study. It didn't come to the conclusion as he dishonestly presented.
CorporateWhore has demonstrated a distortion of scientific data often employed by nonscientists with an agenda.
The essential premise of the findings is that pregnancy is protective against this cancer. And the longer one is pregnant the more effect there is. An abortion and a miscarriage are comparable in their benefit; the actual abortion procedure has no impact.
CorporateWhore's distortion is similar to suggesting that running one mile a day causes heart disease because you don't run three miles a day.
But don't take it from me either. Pose these questions to a gynecologist, or at least a medical website where they can be put in context. This discussion is generally meaningless without consideration of the other risks and benefits of pregnancy.
what's also interesting is that i thought birth control pills protected against some cancers, too. i may be wrong (as i'm not in school yet, but cross your fingers), but i thought it was that not ovulating was really what helped protect against some cancer. so pregnancy (which the term may be abbreviated by spontaneous or elective abortion) and birth control pills both help protect against cancer. it's not the abortion procedure that brings on cancer. it's ovulating--in a way.
this is also one reason why you might see slightly higher rates of cancer in childfree women and lesbians* (if they're not taking ocps). of course, this is not taking into account family history, but there's that too.
*edit: lesbians who have not been pregnant, sorry. because certainly they can get pregnant, too.
cross the river to the eastside
I notice you refer to this child as he. Really can't stand women can you Corporate Whore?
Nobody is saying that there is anything wrong with babies with problems. Or that they have any more or less right to life than the rest of us. That is a choice for the parents to make. Based on their circumstances and what they are able to provide.
But what makes you think that the choice to have them and decide to allow them to live a life time of potential suffering is any more altruistic than deciding to end their suffering before it's begun? I strongly doubt, given your previous posts, that you'd be the one wiping "his" ass anyway. I suppose your virgin, saintly, only slept with in wedlock, completely subserviant wife will be the one to do that? As far as I can see you are only here to pass your judgements and to facilitate your personal agenda. You know, not once have I heard you speak of PJ. Why are you here exactly?
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4861
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
How do you know that we didn't?
There are arguments against abortion that are not at all silly, but this isn't one of them.
How that woman tolerates you I'll never know
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
Sorry hippiemom!! But that comment of yours was just too too funny!! LMAO!
And I couldn't resist an opportunity for a bit of subliminal programming!!
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Only I didn't use it as an argument against abortion, just a statement.