Ron Paul's Statement of Faith

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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    JD Sal wrote:
    Unfortunately, I'm at work and can't access Youtube here, but there was a comment to a Ron Paul video with a link to what he said. I can try to find it later when I get home.

    EDIT - This is the best I can do at the moment.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html

    The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.

    The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation’s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state.

    Thanks for the response. Though I tend to align myself with the statement from the first response "The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life." And that is something that people always argue and tend to align with based on their religious view.

    I see where he's coming from on the second, i think he could have phrased it much better but from the bolded part I think he may be implying that founding fathers wanted to make sure teh govt didn't get overbearing, but I can easily see how it could be taken a different way. I don't know which way he meant.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Smellyman wrote:
    I never knew he was so religious. You wouldn't think so.

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    :)
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    "our freedoms come not from man, but from God"

    that has always sounded extremely stupid to me.
  • JD Sal
    JD Sal Posts: 790
    chopitdown wrote:
    Thanks for the response. Though I tend to align myself with the statement from the first response "The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life." And that is something that people always argue and tend to align with based on their religious view.

    I see where he's coming from on the second, i think he could have phrased it much better but from the bolded part I think he may be implying that founding fathers wanted to make sure teh govt didn't get overbearing, but I can easily see how it could be taken a different way. I don't know which way he meant.

    I agree that he could have meant it in a different way. I can't find the original link, but he went into a little more detail about it. Either way, his views on religion and abortion will keep me from voting for him. Too bad because I agree with him on a lot of other things.
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  • rigneyclan
    rigneyclan Posts: 289
    I'm voting for Kucinich!
    7/16/06 7/18/06