Ron Paul's Statement of Faith

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We live in times of great uncertainty when men of faith must stand up for our values and our traditions lest they be washed away in a sea of fear and relativism. As you likely know, I am running for President of the United States, and I am asking for your support.

I have never been one who is comfortable talking about my faith in the political arena. In fact, the pandering that typically occurs in the election season I find to be distasteful. But for those who have asked, I freely confess that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and that I seek His guidance in all that I do. I know, as you do, that our freedoms come not from man, but from God. My record of public service reflects my reverence for the Natural Rights with which we have been endowed by a loving Creator.

I have worked tirelessly to defend and restore those rights for all Americans, born and unborn alike. The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideal of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.

In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, H.R. 1094. I am also the prime sponsor of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. I have also authored H.R. 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.” Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken and will continue to advocate direct action to restore protection for the unborn.

I have also acted to protect the lives of Americans by my adherence to the doctrine of “just war.” This doctrine, as articulated by Augustine, suggested that war must only be waged as a last resort--- for a discernible moral and public good, with the right intentions, vetted through established legal authorities (a constitutionally required declaration of the Congress), and with a likely probability of success.

It has been and remains my firm belief that the current United Nations-mandated, no-win police action in Iraq fails to meet the high moral threshold required to wage just war. That is why I have offered moral and practical opposition to the invasion, occupation and social engineering police exercise now underway in Iraq. It is my belief, borne out by five years of abject failure and tens of thousands of lost lives, that the Iraq operation has been a dangerous diversion from the rightful and appropriate focus of our efforts to bring to justice to the jihadists that have attacked us and seek still to undermine our nation, our values, and our way of life.

I opposed giving the president power to wage unlimited and unchecked aggression, However, I did vote to support the use of force in Afghanistan. I also authored H.R. 3076, the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001. A letter of marque and reprisal is a constitutional tool specifically designed to give the president the authority to respond with appropriate force to those non-state actors who wage aggression against the United States while limiting his authority to only those responsible for the atrocities of that day. Such a limited authorization is consistent with the doctrine of just war and the practical aim of keeping Americans safe while minimizing the costs in blood and treasure of waging such an operation.

On September 17, 2001, I stated on the house floor that “…striking out at six or eight or even ten different countries could well expand this war of which we wanted no part. Without defining the enemy there is no way to know our precise goal or to know when the war is over. Inadvertently more casual acceptance of civilian deaths as part of this war I'm certain will prolong the agony and increase the chances of even more American casualties. We must guard against this if at all possible.” I’m sorry to say that history has proven this to be true.

I am running for president to restore the rule of law and to stand up for our divinely inspired Constitution. I have never voted for legislation that is not specifically authorized by the Constitution. As president, I will never sign a piece of legislation, nor use the power of the executive, in a manner inconsistent with the limitations that the founders envisioned.

Many have given up on America as an exemplar for the world, as a model of freedom, self-government, and self-control. I have not. There is hope for America. I ask you to join me, and to be a part of it.

Sincerely,

Ron Paul



What of Natural Rights and Ron Paul's belief in them?

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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
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    We live in times of great uncertainty when men of faith must stand up for our values and our traditions lest they be washed away in a sea of fear and relativism. As you likely know, I am running for President of the United States, and I am asking for your support.

    I have never been one who is comfortable talking about my faith in the political arena. In fact, the pandering that typically occurs in the election season I find to be distasteful. But for those who have asked, I freely confess that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and that I seek His guidance in all that I do. I know, as you do, that our freedoms come not from man, but from God. My record of public service reflects my reverence for the Natural Rights with which we have been endowed by a loving Creator.

    I have worked tirelessly to defend and restore those rights for all Americans, born and unborn alike. The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideal of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.

    In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, H.R. 1094. I am also the prime sponsor of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. I have also authored H.R. 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.” Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken and will continue to advocate direct action to restore protection for the unborn.

    I have also acted to protect the lives of Americans by my adherence to the doctrine of “just war.” This doctrine, as articulated by Augustine, suggested that war must only be waged as a last resort--- for a discernible moral and public good, with the right intentions, vetted through established legal authorities (a constitutionally required declaration of the Congress), and with a likely probability of success.

    It has been and remains my firm belief that the current United Nations-mandated, no-win police action in Iraq fails to meet the high moral threshold required to wage just war. That is why I have offered moral and practical opposition to the invasion, occupation and social engineering police exercise now underway in Iraq. It is my belief, borne out by five years of abject failure and tens of thousands of lost lives, that the Iraq operation has been a dangerous diversion from the rightful and appropriate focus of our efforts to bring to justice to the jihadists that have attacked us and seek still to undermine our nation, our values, and our way of life.

    I opposed giving the president power to wage unlimited and unchecked aggression, However, I did vote to support the use of force in Afghanistan. I also authored H.R. 3076, the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001. A letter of marque and reprisal is a constitutional tool specifically designed to give the president the authority to respond with appropriate force to those non-state actors who wage aggression against the United States while limiting his authority to only those responsible for the atrocities of that day. Such a limited authorization is consistent with the doctrine of just war and the practical aim of keeping Americans safe while minimizing the costs in blood and treasure of waging such an operation.

    On September 17, 2001, I stated on the house floor that “…striking out at six or eight or even ten different countries could well expand this war of which we wanted no part. Without defining the enemy there is no way to know our precise goal or to know when the war is over. Inadvertently more casual acceptance of civilian deaths as part of this war I'm certain will prolong the agony and increase the chances of even more American casualties. We must guard against this if at all possible.” I’m sorry to say that history has proven this to be true.

    I am running for president to restore the rule of law and to stand up for our divinely inspired Constitution. I have never voted for legislation that is not specifically authorized by the Constitution. As president, I will never sign a piece of legislation, nor use the power of the executive, in a manner inconsistent with the limitations that the founders envisioned.

    Many have given up on America as an exemplar for the world, as a model of freedom, self-government, and self-control. I have not. There is hope for America. I ask you to join me, and to be a part of it.

    Sincerely,

    Ron Paul



    What of Natural Rights and Ron Paul's belief in them?

    He's an old school conservative that can't go wrong. Gotta love it.

    I'm a big fan of this guy.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    yuck.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    yuck.

    yeah, I think I'll pass.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I am a Ron Paul fan in spite of this declaration, not because of it.

    I don't discriminate based on religion, but I do discriminate if religion becomes a primary driver. I agree with him philisphically on constitutional issues, but would definitely oppose him creating legislation regarding life beginning at conception.

    I've always said there's no such thing as the perfect candidate, and this little declaration keeps that true for me.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    jeffbr wrote:
    I am a Ron Paul fan in spite of this declaration, not because of it.

    I don't discriminate based on religion, but I do discriminate if religion becomes a primary driver. I agree with him philisphically on constitutional issues, but would definitely oppose him creating legislation regarding life beginning at conception.

    I've always said there's no such thing as the perfect candidate, and this little declaration keeps that true for me.

    haha, as long as you vote for him then we'll overturn Roe and end abortion rights in this country. Thanks for the help, lib! :)
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    haha, as long as you vote for him then we'll overturn Roe and end abortion rights in this country. Thanks for the help, lib! :)

    I think you're dreaming. Firstly, he won't be elected (which won't stop me from voting for him). Secondly, you may be correct about Roe v. Wade being overturned, but that could happen with or without Paul. That is up to the Supremes. Thirdly, abortion rights under Paul would likely revert to the states. There are many states (probably the majority of states), like Washington State where I live, where choice will be protected.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    haha, as long as you vote for him then we'll overturn Roe and end abortion rights in this country. Thanks for the help, lib! :)

    How is him getting elected going to overtun Roe, and even if the court eventually did, how exactly would it end abortion rights in the country?
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    How is him getting elected going to overtun Roe

    The President nominates Supreme Court justices
    and even if the court eventually did, how exactly would it end abortion rights in the country?

    The people could finally vote on the issue which they were never allowed to vote on. That right was denied them by the SCOTUS.
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  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    jeffbr wrote:
    I am a Ron Paul fan in spite of this declaration, not because of it.

    I don't discriminate based on religion, but I do discriminate if religion becomes a primary driver. I agree with him philisphically on constitutional issues, but would definitely oppose him creating legislation regarding life beginning at conception.

    I've always said there's no such thing as the perfect candidate, and this little declaration keeps that true for me.

    I agree, there is no perfect candidate. I thought Ron Paul could be it, but his views on abortion and his desires to have religion become bigger than govt are deal breakers for me. Ah well.
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    JD Sal wrote:
    deal breakers for me.

    Good! Keep the movement pure.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Good! Keep the movement pure.

    The Paul candidacy bid looks purely downhill from here.

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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    gue_barium wrote:
    The Paul candidacy bid looks purely downhill from here.

    Droll.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    The people could finally vote on the issue which they were never allowed to vote on. That right was denied them by the SCOTUS.

    Do you honestly believe all (or any) of the states would completely outlaw abortion?
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Do you honestly believe all (or any) of the states would completely outlaw abortion?

    Some of them would.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Some of them would.

    Yup. Some backwater southern states (and Utah) would. And all of the pseudo-Christians would then secretly sneak across state lines to free states to covertly exercise their reproductive liberty.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    Some of them would.

    Too bad your mother didnt live in one of them.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Some of them would.
    Yes, but very few... While just about everyone hates the idea of abortion, the vast majority of the people in this country are realistic enough to know that totally outlawing it wouldn't be a good idea.

    I'm sure many states would increase the wait time, or parent notification or whatever, but I doubt many would totally outlaw it.

    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Too bad your mother didnt live in one of them.

    That's definitely uncalled for.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    JD Sal wrote:
    his desires to have religion become bigger than govt are deal breakers for me.

    where did he say that?
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Too bad your mother didnt live in one of them.

    I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

    Too bad she didn't live in a state that outlawed abortion?
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Yes, but very few... While just about everyone hates the idea of abortion, the vast majority of the people in this country are realistic enough to know that totally outlawing it wouldn't be a good idea.

    I'm sure many states would increase the wait time, or parent notification or whatever, but I doubt many would totally outlaw it.
    If I'm not mistaken, Louisiana has a law on the books stating that if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, abortion will immediatly be outlawed.

    Of course, that's quite an easy law to write.

    Not entirely unlike so many Pro-War on Terror types who say "Man, if I was over there - you know, if the country didn't need me here in college - I'd be all like 'Die, you terrist scum!' an' gettin' on top a' the buildings with my machine gun an' pointin' down at all them mooslims an' going 'tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat' an' shit. Sprayin' blood all over the walls. All of 'em dead. Yeah, that'd be sweet."

    ---Until there's a draft, that is.
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    RainDog wrote:
    If I'm not mistaken, Louisiana has a law on the books stating that if Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, abortion will immediatly be outlawed.

    Of course, that's quite an easy law to write.

    Not entirely unlike so many Pro-War on Terror types who say "Man, if I was over there - you know, if the country didn't need me here in college - I'd be all like 'Die, you terrist scum!' an' gettin' on top a' the buildings with my machine gun an' pointin' down at all them mooslims an' going 'tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat' an' shit. Sprayin' blood all over the walls. All of 'em dead. Yeah, that'd be sweet."

    ---Until there's a draft, that is.

    lol, luckily I don't support the war in Iraq so I don't have to go! I want to keep my machine guns here, not for Mooslims but for all the liberals.
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  • Wow. America's turning into its own worst enemy.

    Sure, elect people who'll make bad decisions, or worse, no decisions.

    Either way, I'm glad I don't live there.
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Either way, I'm glad I don't live there.

    We're glad about that too.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Wow. America's turning into its own worst enemy.

    Sure, elect people who'll make bad decisions, or worse, no decisions.

    Either way, I'm glad I don't live there.

    well with that attitude, I'm glad you don't live here too. so we have something in common.
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  • We're glad about that too.

    Ouch. My pride.

    It hurts, oh so much.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    chopitdown wrote:
    well with that attitude, I'm glad you don't live here too. so we have something in common.

    I agree to some extent with LoveRock333.

    I think Americans might be a bigger threat to the "American way of life" or "freedom" than terrorists or anything like that. To me it seems like the US is divided into two separate groups who both have a very clear view of what America should be like and these two views couldn't be more different.

    But is this really how it is, or is this just how it seems to me (an outsider)? Is America divided?
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  • I mean no disrespect to Americans, but there is a nationwide paranoia that is allowing extreme aspects of politics to show themselves and seem halfway sane.

    Christian Bible thumping senators? In a country that purports to have a secular government?

    It's could become the polar opposite of certain extremist Islamic states. Maybe escalate into cold war or worse...

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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Collin wrote:
    I agree to some extent with LoveRock333.

    I think Americans might be a bigger threat to the "American way of life" or "freedom" than terrorists or anything like that. To me it seems like the US is divided into two separate groups who both have a very clear view of what America should be like and these two views couldn't be more different.

    But is this really how it is, or is this just how it seems to me (an outsider)? Is America divided?

    i think it's portrayed that way in the press and yes there is some division, but if you'll recall after 9/11 there was a lot of unity; so we are able to put our differences aside and work together, but lately it is more about our side is different from your side and our side is better and unfortunately there is an attitude that is beginning to permeate that is selfish. The thing is with 300+million people who are legal citizens you will have differences of opinion on major topics and we often get lost in the details and focus on differences. It is impossible to satisfy everyone every time and with the great diversity we have in our country it is impossible to please everyone. But that aside, we can get along (liberal conservative, religious non religious etc...) and in every day life we have to get along; however, people getting along and working together isn't anything to report but conflict is. Plus the media gives (or perhaps the people take) the loud mouth pundits from both sides frequent air time. If that's all I had to base America on, I'd prob be disgusted by it too.
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    I mean no disrespect to Americans, but there is a nationwide paranoia that is allowing extreme aspects of politics to show themselves and seem halfway sane.

    Christian Bible thumping senators? In a country that purports to have a secular government?

    It's could become the polar opposite of certain extremist Islamic states. Maybe escalate into cold war or worse...

    "Never give guns to children." - Common Sense proverb

    If politicians allow religion to inform their decisions regarding legislation, are you saying that is a breach seperation of church and state?

    Would you prefer thought control? If they allow religion to influence them, would you prefer they enter a re-education camp so that they are turned into atheists?

    Thought control.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222

    Christian Bible thumping senators? In a country that purports to have a secular government?

    i find it strange that you post something about bible thumping senators in a thread where the main statement the senator in questions says is "I have never been one who is comfortable talking about my faith in the political arena. In fact, the pandering that typically occurs in the election season I find to be distasteful. But for those who have asked, I freely confess that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and that I seek His guidance in all that I do. I know, as you do, that our freedoms come not from man, but from God. My record of public service reflects my reverence for the Natural Rights with which we have been endowed by a loving Creator." that doesnt sound like bible thumping to me. It sounds to me like the man is a christian, which since we have a representative congress, makes sense.
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