We See Conspiracies That Don't Exist
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This is one article of a series from the staunchest "Left" in the media today.
http://www.counterpunch.org/thermo11282006.html
I recommend that you read them all.
Myself, I am certain that there was complitcity on 9/11 in some levels in Federal government. I don't think that the Federal Government was involved in the towers falling down. I think we need to look past the nuts and the bolts of this thing and ask why it was able to happen in the first place, and the players involved.
http://www.counterpunch.org/thermo11282006.html
I recommend that you read them all.
Myself, I am certain that there was complitcity on 9/11 in some levels in Federal government. I don't think that the Federal Government was involved in the towers falling down. I think we need to look past the nuts and the bolts of this thing and ask why it was able to happen in the first place, and the players involved.
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I agree. I can't wait to see all the people on here that would usually turn their nose up at anything counterpunch ever had to say eat this shit up. :rolleyes:
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Why would anyone be driving a nail in their own coffin by simply having a different opinion on this subject? It's not some crazy idea to think there could be a conspiracy involved. We've posted tons of stuff proving that.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The research doesn't discount the questions Please, Abook, you and Kabong read this. It takes the physics at face value without making judgements, and that's important.
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There have also been physics professors who think there was a conspiracy based what they studied at face value. They made the judgement saying there was a conspiracy, the guys you posted made the judgement that there wasn't. Same old song and dance.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
What the problem is, is in how the arguments are being carried out on the internet. Bush himself doesn't give one yahoo on how it happened, his hands are clean. You can't indict him in this. We need to stop making the leap and crowning the unanswered questions unto the Bush head.
Let's take what we know and move with it.
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I'm not in the least expecting Bush to be held accountable for this and nor do I think he should or will be because it goes much deeper than that nitwit. I have never focused on him. We only post what we do to prove it was indeed a conspiracy and not some amateur arab terrorists who got extremely lucky. It's not about bringing the guys who did this down because that would be pretty much impossible. It's about exposing what some of those in positions of a lot of power are capable of to serve as a warning and a lesson.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Um, there are no lessons to be learned in this. We already know. The knowledge of power is as it always has been, bombs or no bombs.
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Q: no bombs?
A; Okay, they have the bombs, excuuuuse me.
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Great read! Thanks.
Believe it or not, this is the only part of the 9/11 conspiracy theory that I think holds even a grain of truth: The government was inept or complicit or both.
I personally think that they simply didn't put all the pieces together in time to stop 9/11 from happening.
Uhm...for the 9/11 thing and the fire energy....If you look at the video the bulk of the fuel is expended in a huge fireball and the remaining fuel is burned up within minutes. What was left inside did start fires but all the office materials were all fire retardant...this is code. Every piece of furniture in the building was made of fire retardant material designed to burn slowly and at cool temperatures down to the carpet the paint on the walls...everything.
Did this guy hold up a thermometer in there somewhere or something?
NIST has approx 7000 pictures and over 300 hours of video tape of the WTC wreckage but they are not releasing it.....why not I wonder? what's the big secret?
This new link proves nothing...
All the evidence to make a proper conclusion has either been destroyed or is being held in secrecy... I mean really...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Key word "retardant" not "proof". These fire resistant materials will still burn vigorously once the materials reach thier respective flash points.
Nothing at all on all the photos and videos being held up... that's really normal given the circumstances right?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Have you contacted the NIST to get access to those photos?
NIST World Trade Center Investigation Team
100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8610
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8610
Phone: (301) 975-6051
Fax: (301) 975-6122
Email: wtc@nist.gov
Try them first.
Could it be that they are just not published yet?
Why don't you go see?
Nothing on my statement?
published...that's your reasoning?
Actually yes I signed an online petition, and sent some personal emails. you should do the same.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Back to the is the fire hot enough again? What next the paper did it?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Same kind of thinking that people have when they think that Iraq needs a McDonalds in their country.
you cannot present a conspiracy theory without a theory. for example; in the jfk assassination; the theory was that a second shooter was in the grassy knoll. in the case of the 9/11 incident; no logical theories have been presented. they just say i don't know how it happened; but it didn't happen how they said it did.
on the other hand; conspiracy theories are usually made by people that do not have access to all the facts. 99% of the time; an uninformed theory is worthless. it's nothing more than a shot in the dark.
I think they USED the attacks as an opportunity to settle an old score with Saddam Hussein. They WANTED Hussein implicated and taken out and this was a golden opportunity to do so. I see them more as opportunists who capitalized on a tragic event in America's history.
Hail, Hail!!!
when saddam paid the families of the hijackers and said he'd pay others whos families make attacks on the us; he drew the line in the sand. he knew he was in for an ass kicking.
this is what i've been saying since the towers fell.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Nice Fairey Tale, mate. But, Hussein's offers were for suicide bombers in Israel... like the payments that come from unofficial state sponsorship in Saudi Arabia, Lebannon, Syria, Egypt, Yemen and Jordan.
History is not like faith... just because you believe it, doesn't make it true. I would think that as a lawyer, you should already know this.
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P.S. You aren't doing any 'Ass Kicking'. Ass kicking and Ass Sitting are two completely different things.
Hail, Hail!!!
quite true. the problem is, the only reason the right got the chance to do this is becos the left as driving nails into its coffin here at home well before bush ahd the chance. the left was right about iraq. but this 9/11 nonsense seemed so kooky that the people in the middle weren't going to listen. so the right won all the elections and has been fucking the rest of us ever since. only now are people finally coming around and it sure as hell has nothing to do with 9/11 conspiracy theories.
The main reason the left is 'driving nails into their own coffins' is #1. They (the dems) don't stand up for their own ideals. They try to cater to people who aren't going to vote for them anyways thus alienating any chance of getting independents or true liberals to take them seriously. They stand for nothing pretty much because they try to have their cake and eat it too. #2. They promote freedom of religion and work to keep it out of law making and public affairs. This angers the Christian majority in this country and opens the door for the right to paint them as 'godless liberals with no morals'. That is infact changing thankfully because everyone can see that war and greed are actually godless and taking prayer out of the classroom isn't such a big deal compared losing your son or daughter in a needless war or having your job hauled overseas.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
9/11 was the catalyst to war...the eye for an eye concept. If anything the 9/11 CT'ers have opened eyes to the obvious Bush nightmare and endless clusterfucks. It's the CT'ers digging for the truth and actually finding it under each new rock that is turned over. Thank god for that...someone's gotta do it
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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