If there were no humans, would there be a God?

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If all humans were wiped from the face of the earth, for whatever reason, would there still be a God?!
If all humans were wiped from the face of the earth, for whatever reason, would there still be a God?!
Cymru Am Byth
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Sorry for being a smartass but the question is actually :
"if there were no humans would there still be a universe" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle). It's basically the same if you consider that God is nature.
edit : I think... who cares?0 -
yes i'll still be here. next question please.0
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MrSmith wrote:yes i'll still be here. next question please.
Ha ha! I like that one! I'm a convert to the religion of the almighty Mr Smith!
Praise the Lord!Cymru Am Byth
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Isn't that pretty much what the song Cropduster is about?
I was the fool because I thought....I thought the world
Turns out the world thought me
That's "God" thinking that he "thought the world" or created it
Turns out, the world "thought him...God" or created God0 -
"if there were no angles would there be no sin?"If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?0 -
Fighting Hellfish wrote:Isn't that pretty much what the song Cropduster is about?
I was the fool because I thought....I thought the world
Turns out the world thought me
That's "God" thinking that he "thought the world" or created it
Turns out, the world "thought him...God" or created GodFurther back and forth a wave will break on me, today...0 -
DriftingByTheStorm wrote:"if there were no angles would there be no sin?"
like a right angle? j/k0 -
pirlo21 wrote:I'm stealing this from another forum, on another website...sorry!
If all humans were wiped from the face of the earth, for whatever reason, would there still be a God?!
The God of the Bible would still exist. There'd still be a Heaven and angels and demons.0 -
bootlegger10 wrote:like a right angle? j/k
lol.
i love typos.
ANYHOW
You know the current interpretation of "god" seems to stem from a rational misinterpretation of a phenomenological event that was of "divine" inspiration to primitive beings.
Paleontology now shows us that ancient "cultures" dating back to Sumeria and every where in between have their "religious" roots mired in heavy psychedelic revelry. John Allegro would make a solid starting point for this interpretation of history.
Anyhow,
it seems pretty clear the deeper you dig that "original religion" was little more than an offshoot of the human mind's own capability for wondrous admiration of the universe and life. It was simply a psychedelic celebration of the supreme nature of existence, sex, and the human experience.
It is only after this original expression of "religion" that the "Religious" "Leaders" co-opted the experience, and the metaphors for this experience, and the false interpretations were then transcribed to became dogma. As common throughout history, the experiences of the many were perverted and preyed upon, manipulated by and for the benefit of the elite few.
Religion was thus perverted from an orgiastic expression of the great cosmic dance of the universe in to a contrived and irrelevant method of instilling control and order.
I guess in that sense, the answer to the OPs question is "No", without man, god would not exist, given that the original concept of "god" was nothing more than a transcendent phenomenological experience peculiar to humans themselves.
???If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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pirlo21 wrote:I'm stealing this from another forum, on another website...sorry!
If all humans were wiped from the face of the earth, for whatever reason, would there still be a God?!
Gods presence isn't contingent upon humans being around. The presumption is that God is eternal.make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0 -
Gmoney wrote:very interesting... never thought about it like that. I always took it as ed saying he thought he knew it all, but it turns out he didn't really know anything, or something along those lines.
that's how I always interpreted it. Give it a listen again, let me know if you think I'm onto something, or crazy.0 -
DriftingByTheStorm wrote:"if there were no angles would there be no sin?"
You better stop me before I begin
But let me say...if I behave...can you arrange a spacious hole in the groundSo I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
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Nothing comes from nothing, at some time, in some space was the first something, and that was created by God, everything else is bullshit...IMO"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
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pirlo21 wrote:I'm stealing this from another forum, on another website...sorry!
If all humans were wiped from the face of the earth, for whatever reason, would there still be a God?!
how could there be, when it was humans who invented God?
no humans=no Godhear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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God would still exist... He just wouldn't have the highest evolved ape claiming Him in their name.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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catefrances wrote:how could there be, when it was humans who invented God?
no humans=no God
God created humans...now the great part is neither of us can prove our point.make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0 -
shouldn't our discussion start with defining "GOD"? I mean, there has been thousands of "Gods" during the life and evolution of our species Homo sapien"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
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If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
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CorporateWhore wrote:If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
So the real question is, will we every have an answer to these questions?"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
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CorporateWhore wrote:If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Why, of course it does! A tree falling creates sound waves irrespective of whether there is someone to receive the sound waves.
God exists whether or not we believe in him and whether or not we exist. God created mankind, and so he existed before mankind.All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell0
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