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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." – Tolstoy
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    guess what.. some people are assholes... they could be doctors, lawyers, cashiers, teachers, cops... i have met assholes from every walk of life and profession... as i am sure you have

    Sure but I can freely tell those assholes to go take a flying fuck at great length, and they won't jump on me, spray me, taze me, or hold a gun to my head and I have to like it or else. Slight difference and they know it. Some are drunk on it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    my2hands wrote:
    guess what.. some people are assholes... they could be doctors, lawyers, cashiers, teachers, cops... i have met assholes from every walk of life and profession... as i am sure you have


    unbelievable... you show me a doctor who is allowed to act legally under the patriot act and i will show you a COP


    you are out of your element on this one.
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I disagree. They are either being trained harder or their stress levels are higher. Something has changed in the police force, that I am sure of.

    I agree, but it's a symptom of a problem, they aren't the problem is my take on it. Stress is definitely higher in inner cities, and east texas, lol (sorry for hte no country for old men pun)
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." – Tolstoy


    good quote
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." – Tolstoy



    so using this quote here... are you saying.. people should form themselves to obey any law in the future that may label them as a criminal??

    is this what you are saying... or once again


    you dont know what you are saying
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    macgyver06 wrote:
    unbelievable... you show me a doctor who is allowed to act legally under the patriot act and i will show you a COP


    you are out of your element on this one.


    hahahahahaha... what a joke
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:
    so using this quote here... are you saying.. people should form themselves to obey any law in the future that may label them as a criminal??

    is this what you are saying... or once again


    you dont know what you are saying

    yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, wow and you were questioning whether I know what I'm saying? might want to work on those comprehension skills

    check yourself before you wreck yourself! DAS EFX

    let's try and different approach, what laws are criminalizing you for doing nothing wrong?
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Sure but I can freely tell those assholes to go take a flying fuck at great length, and they won't jump on me, spray me, taze me, or hold a gun to my head and I have to like it or else. Slight difference and they know it. Some are drunk on it.

    some are, but not most...it could be far worse, we need to fix what is wrong though.
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:
    unbelievable... you show me a doctor who is allowed to act legally under the patriot act and i will show you a COP


    you are out of your element on this one.

    what does this even mean?
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    It's funny ... I've never had a run-in with a cop that has been anything more than professional ... of course, I don't do anything illegal outside of maybe speeding occasionally.

    It seems like the most ardent "fuck the po-lice" types are also the ones who do the most illegal shit. I don't think it's a coincidence.

    As for this "police state" mumbo-jumbo ... I would love for some of you to have to go live in a real police state. Americans are so fucking spoiled.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    slightofjeff wrote:
    It's funny ... I've never had a run-in with a cop that has been anything more than professional ... of course, I don't do anything illegal outside of maybe speeding occasionally.

    It seems like the most ardent "fuck the po-lice" types are also the ones who do the most illegal shit. I don't think it's a coincidence.

    As for this "police state" mumbo-jumbo ... I would love for some of you to have to go live in a real police state. Americans are so fucking spoiled.

    agreed, I've lived in several states across the country, been to 26 countries, seen some crazy stuff, far to many in this country are clueless, but we still have a lot to fix here, we aren't this bs false propaganda "greatest country on earth", that is unfallable, we fuck over many around the world, as citizens we need to own up to it, and work toward becoming better. Luckily, we aren't russia, so working to be better, while dealing with live currently isn't so bad.
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    my2hands wrote:
    a burglar kicks in your door in the middle of the night... i know what # your dialing first...


    If you 'phoned the police in this country, about a burglary, there's a fair chance they won't even bother showing up.
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    If you 'phoned the police in this country, about a burglary, there's a fair chance they won't even bother showing up.

    maybe you need to move? this isn't a common problem. If it is, communities take action, and go to city hall meetings and get it fixed.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i never had any cops be overly concerned with minor offenses until that bitch gave me a ticket for no seatbelt! Who does that!?

    but cops have let much worse offenses slide, so i guess i'm lucky.
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    MrSmith wrote:
    i never had any cops be overly concerned with minor offenses until that bitch gave me a ticket for no seatbelt! Who does that!?

    but cops have let much worse offenses slide, so i guess i'm lucky.

    I haven't heard of them letting seatbelt offenses slide in Cali. They are pretty tight on that one.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    beachdweller wrote:
    maybe you need to move? this isn't a common problem. If it is, communities take action, and go to city hall meetings and get it fixed.


    Nah, it's nationwide in the UK. If the burglar has fled the scene, the cops won't show at all, which I still think inexcusable. They send community support officers with no real experience:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6225137.stm


    So, I suppose I'm saying US cops are better, in supporting property owners.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    MrSmith wrote:
    i never had any cops be overly concerned with minor offenses until that bitch gave me a ticket for no seatbelt! Who does that!?


    Must have been a Nader supporter. ;)
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Nah, it's nationwide in the UK. If the burglar has fled the scene, the cops won't show at all, which I still think inexcusable. They send community support officers with no real experience:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6225137.stm


    So, I suppose I'm saying US cops are better, in supporting property owners.

    I'm not up on UK cops, but we have enough issue with US cops, among them, they keep asking them to do more with less, which is a bad idea IMO.
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    beachdweller wrote:
    I'm not up on UK cops, but we have enough issue with US cops, among them, they keep asking them to do more with less, which is a bad idea IMO.
    The US has the biggest prison population in the world, per capita. I think we spend more than enough on "enforcement."

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