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macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
and its why its coming to an end.

this society is ridiculous.. and i don't understand it anymore and have realized.. I never did.


all these laws on top of laws banning any person from feeling safe in public... and its not the terrorist to be worried about... its our local police and city laws... our own government needs to be overthrown at any cost.


plants are illegal - no money to be made by the gov't
homeless and ghetto sales of drugs go on - no money to be made by the gov't
mentally distressed homeless veterans go without food and support - no money to be made by your government


see the pattern here... the people you support and think are supporting you are actually only in it for the money and thier precious careers..

How much is a dollar worth to you, in a society that proves time and time again that you in fact are not free.

If you live on U.S. soil than you live with man handed boundaries and the result of this is what is on the present plane.

1. acts of violence will only get worse and more unpredictable
2. Weapons are getting bigger by the day
3. No more Civilian police relationship (they dont know you/you dont know them... in fact many come from other towns... to POLICE YOUR TOWN)
4. Elections are run by the media and major corporations (no faces)
5. If you have money, you are more likely to go to jail for minor violations (ones you may not even know exist)


this is a police state.

if you dont believe me, consider this:

How would your local Police department stay in operation if the citizens stopped driving cars?

think about that...
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    One thing I've noticed is that cops are becoming much bigger assholes.

    f-in uptight egoist pricks they are...
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    sounds like someone has issues with authority. Police go to other towns to work, for a job, and I would think so they can have a more normal life for their family in their towns. Not to police that town, lol phycho-babble

    plants are illegal? if they aren't narcotic, it's because the city voted them that way, if you are talking about weed, get over it, it's not like people don't smoke away regardless, even though many peoples death are associated with it being brought into the country. No problem with that huh?

    no police state, sorry, time for microwave food now...
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    beachdweller wrote:
    sounds like someone has issues with authority. Police go to other towns to work, for a job, and I would think so they can have a more normal life for their family in their towns. Not to police that town, lol phycho-babble

    plants are illegal? if they aren't narcotic, it's because the city voted them that way, if you are talking about weed, get over it, it's not like people don't smoke away regardless, even though many peoples death are associated with it being brought into the country. No problem with that huh?

    no police state, sorry, time for microwave food now...


    seems you haven't met too many uptight cops...how far from a city center are you?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I don't agree.. :cool:
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    sounds like someone has issues with authority. Police go to other towns to work, for a job, and I would think so they can have a more normal life for their family in their towns. Not to police that town, lol phycho-babble

    plants are illegal? if they aren't narcotic, it's because the city voted them that way, if you are talking about weed, get over it, it's not like people don't smoke away regardless, even though many peoples death are associated with it being brought into the country. No problem with that huh?

    no police state, sorry, time for microwave food now...


    yes i do have issues with humans pushing humans around. You think people go to other towns to police them so that they can provide for their family... you use the word normal, but that means different things to different people... so im lost here..... and you say if they do go to the other town to find a job... its not really that they want to police but more so to provide their family.. so you are suggesting what once a position of power hand in hand with pride is now simply a career decision.. this is a mindset in a surrounding of slavery.


    and its spelled psycho... and i don't think you know what that word means.

    what kind of vote is that... how can you vote on what someone else does with their personal time peacefully... where does it end? its absurdities at the highest order... you speak as if youre un-educated and its not wise.. you state
    ''even though many peoples death are associated with it being brought into the country. No problem with that huh?'' what does this mean.. what people... where??? can you not provide that information in your hauntingly misinformed response to a real problem in society?

    you seem to be the type that wonders why atrocities happen and why tragedies happen in schools and every day life...and instead of looking for an answer you would rather dismiss thinking as psycho babble and make some piss poor food in a microwave..


    well beach dweller... enjoy the beach while you can because with each rolling wave of sediment in... more is going out and THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE EXACT LAWS YOU REFUSE TO QUESTION


    to pass it off as... ''this is what the people want''


    i dont want anything for anyone except peace of mind and the right to be left alone from tyrranical rule..


    BUT I WOULDNT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTHS OF VIOLENCE.


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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I've never understood how people can go through everyday being so pessimistic and paranoid.

    Could things be better? absolutely... but I can honestly say that I enjoy my life everyday.

    And all this talk about local police? In my experiences they haven't changed. There are some jackass ones, but there are more that are just normal people who happen to be cops.
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    seems you haven't met too many uptight cops...how far from a city center are you?

    I've met many cops with attitude, but even with that being true, I think quite a few people that complain about them to this level, might want to look at themselves first. We are not in a police state.
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    macgyver06 wrote:
    plants are illegal - no money to be made by the gov't
    homeless and ghetto sales of drugs go on - no money to be made by the gov't

    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/33-marijuana/

    "Stuff White People Like"

    #33 Marijuana
    January 27, 2008 by clander

    People from many cultures like marijuana (South East Asian, Jamaica, India, Morrocco, Mexico, etc), but white people take it to an entirely new level.

    To simply purchase, roll and smoke marijuana is not enough for white people. They need to make sure they know all the different strains, cultivation technique, and methods for smoking it. They even have an entire magazine devoted those where they actually have centerfolds of plants that people have grown.

    White people are also willing to spend over $500 on smoking devices just to find new and more expensive ways to smoke weed.

    It is worth noting that at every white person, at some point, has written a high school or college paper about the history of how the DuPont industry helped make weed illegal. This paper also teaches them about how hemp can be used to fuel cars, make clothing, create food, cure cancer, and solve every single problem on earth.

    While you would assume that most white people smoke weed between 14-28 (and act as though they are the first generation to do so), the reality is that white people smoke weed well into old age. They also smoke weed with their kids! This is not a joke. White people love weed so much that they consider it a ‘gift’ to share with their kids. Leading to a generation that was not allowed to watch Power Rangers, but was allowed to toke up.

    All white people believe marijuana should be legalized, and they consider the Netherlands to a pinnacle of enlightenment. Also, every white person has had their most profound weed smoking experience in Amsterdam, so it’s a good idea to fabricate a story about your own experience there so you can quickly forge a bond. Traditional tales uses the following words: hostel, brownie, girl/guy from Hungary, crazy, locked out, chill dudes from Ireland.

    Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should ever imply that people just smoke weed to get high, they do it for medical/spiritual/social reasons, etc, or that there are any negative consequences. This will likely alienate you from white people.

    On the plus side, white people are always looking for higher quality, more potent, more organic marijuana. If you promise to hook them up with a special selection from your home country, they will likely pay a high premium.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    I've met many cops with attitude, but even with that being true, I think quite a few people that complain about them to this level, might want to look at themselves first. We are not in a police state.

    you dont understand how hard it is for individuals just breaking into the system thats in place right now... im talking about 18, 19 early twenties... individuals trying to be on their own... and spend time with people who care baout them peacefully... and just trying to get by... and at 24... like me you wake up and realize... ever since youve turned 18... you been harassed... fined... ticketed... while never going to jail...never commiting a violent crime... never hurting anyone... and Im wondering what is it all for... why are these people we are supposed to respect.. these adults we learned in high school and middle school.. why cant they make it on their own.. why cant they find money on their own without having to take it from me... im not responsible for their failures.. im not responsible for their poor decisions...

    i guess you cant feel the way i do...because it isnt happening to you... It seems though.. the harder i try to stay out of their records... out of their books.. off their mailing lists... the harder they try to find me... and the fines increase.
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:
    yes i do have issues with humans pushing humans around. You think people go to other towns to police them so that they can provide for their family... you use the word normal, but that means different things to different people... so im lost here..... and you say if they do go to the other town to find a job... its not really that they want to police but more so to provide their family.. so you are suggesting what once a position of power hand in hand with pride is now simply a career decision.. this is a mindset in a surrounding of slavery.no actually you are the one identifying eveyone, it seems, that goes to another town, for a job as a policeman, as doing it for evil reasons. I agree that cops go bad, or bad people become cops, but this is the case the majority of the time. So you have cop issues, funny, most people don't. I'm far from perfect, and raise hell when out with friends at times, yet I have common sense enough to keep out of real trouble. I will say, being a wma, I am going to have a lot less problems with police than a non-wma. Humans pushing humans around, cops are far from the big problem in this area.


    and its spelled psycho... and i don't think you know what that word means.dam, someone call my typing and english teacher, had a typo/brain freeze moment.

    what kind of vote is that... how can you vote on what someone else does with their personal time peacefully... where does it end? its absurdities at the highest order... you speak as if youre un-educated and its not wise.. you state
    ''even though many peoples death are associated with it being brought into the country. No problem with that huh?'' what does this mean.. what people... where??? can you not provide that information in your hauntingly misinformed response to a real problem in society?if you are talking about not being able to plant a tree in your yard, then that's something a community/city has voted on, if you are talking about something like Marijuana, I understand the true back ground surrounding the illegalization of it, and even the phony war on drugs, but I'm saying those that use that complain about this have no leg to stand on, people die in the process of getting cocaine, marijuana, and others into the country, yet that has nothing to do with the arguments made for legalization, nor seems to be an issue with those that use. At least those that are against clothes being made by sweatshops were people sometimes die, and work in poor conditions, are paid close to nothing take a stand and don't buy them.

    you seem to be the type that wonders why atrocities happen and why tragedies happen in schools and every day life...and instead of looking for an answer you would rather dismiss thinking as psycho babble and make some piss poor food in a microwave..yeah, the microwave wasn't for me, but I'll drop that, as for the babble, the examples of our so called police state don't cut it. I understand there are bad laws, bad cops, but that's because there are bad people. It's not some big bad cop conspiracy.


    well beach dweller... enjoy the beach while you can because with each rolling wave of sediment in... more is going out and THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE EXACT LAWS YOU REFUSE TO QUESTIONreally, you know me so well, please, you're just moving toward ignorance at this point, besides, if it's a police state, you're not allowed to question.


    to pass it off as... ''this is what the people want''yeah, not sure why you quoted this, here, cause that's not from my post


    i dont want anything for anyone except peace of mind and the right to be left alone from tyrranical rule..I'm sure you can find a country that will allow this, here we have problems because people are flawed, and it's people that create the rules


    BUT I WOULDNT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTHS OF VIOLENCE.ignorance is bliss with you isn't it


    surfs down.oh, you are making such a strong point here, to bad beachdweller has nothing to do with surfing, but the story a WWII vet told me at the 50 yr anniversary about dday, and his platoon and companies ordeal on Utah beach.

    forever

    got to love ignorance, EDITED - I retract this statement :D
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    macgyver06 wrote:
    this is a police state.

    if you dont believe me, consider this:

    How would your local Police department stay in operation if the citizens stopped driving cars?

    think about that...

    um, taxes maybe

    :rolleyes:
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you dont understand how hard it is for individuals just breaking into the system thats in place right now... im talking about 18, 19 early twenties... individuals trying to be on their own... and spend time with people who care baout them peacefully... and just trying to get by... and at 24... like me you wake up and realize... ever since youve turned 18... you been harassed... fined... ticketed... while never going to jail...never commiting a violent crime... never hurting anyone... and Im wondering what is it all for... why are these people we are supposed to respect.. these adults we learned in high school and middle school.. why cant they make it on their own.. why cant they find money on their own without having to take it from me... im not responsible for their failures.. im not responsible for their poor decisions...

    i guess you cant feel the way i do...because it isnt happening to you... It seems though.. the harder i try to stay out of their records... out of their books.. off their mailing lists... the harder they try to find me... and the fines increase.

    Now this is a more powerful communication, and I can find understanding in what you are saying.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    beachdweller wrote:
    I've met many cops with attitude, but even with that being true, I think quite a few people that complain about them to this level, might want to look at themselves first. We are not in a police state.

    I disagree. They are either being trained harder or their stress levels are higher. Something has changed in the police force, that I am sure of.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    a burglar kicks in your door in the middle of the night... i know what # your dialing first... so save the "cops are arrogant pigs" shit... it makes you look silly and childish


    you should probably get to know a few cops... and thank them...
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    got to love ignorance, EDITED - I retract this statement :D


    I don't think you understand.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    my2hands wrote:
    a burglar kicks in your door in the middle of the night... i know what # your dialing first... so save the "cops are arrogant pigs" shit... it makes you look silly and childish


    you should probably get to know a few cops... and thank them...


    its the laws behind the cops you fool... good god!... these posts make me sad

    and for the record ''my2hands''

    if you dont understand concepts stay out of my threads... you dont have to click


    use your head... lol thats all im asking here :)


    and also...if a guy kicks your door in and you run for the phone... youre a coward.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    a burglar kicks in your door in the middle of the night... i know what # your dialing first... so save the "cops are arrogant pigs" shit... it makes you look silly and childish


    you should probably get to know a few cops... and thank them...


    When you get a cop yell at you for doing essentially nothing wrong, it makes them look like huge fucking assholes.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    When you get a cop yell at you for doing essentially nothing wrong, it makes them look like huge fucking assholes.

    guess what.. some people are assholes... they could be doctors, lawyers, cashiers, teachers, cops... i have met assholes from every walk of life and profession... as i am sure you have
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:


    and also...if a guy kicks your door in and you run for the phone... youre a coward.

    really, a coward for calling the cops when your doors kicked in, when you aren't going to know any real facts of the situation, is it one person, many, are they aren't, what's their intent, do you have family in the house to worry about, did they think the house was empty?

    not everyone owns guns, so basically run at them with a baseball bat and pray?

    or

    since everyone that does own a gun has tactical training, and has actually gone to a firiing range to become an expert and so 1, 2, 3 baddies, armed or not, take'em on, life is over rated anyway to actually worry about comprehending a situation and making an intelligent decision.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    macgyver06 wrote:
    its the laws behind the cops you fool... good god!... these posts make me sad

    and for the record ''my2hands''

    if you dont understand concepts stay out of my threads... you dont have to click


    use your head... lol thats all im asking here :)


    and also...if a guy kicks your door in and you run for the phone... youre a coward.


    do them a favor then... when your car gets stolen... dont call the cops


    and i am sorry... i think marijuana should be legal... but i am not buying your whole pot is illegal so this is a police state... you are not restricted from doing anything really... what is it you want to do that you cannot because you are oppresed by "the police state"...
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." – Tolstoy
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    guess what.. some people are assholes... they could be doctors, lawyers, cashiers, teachers, cops... i have met assholes from every walk of life and profession... as i am sure you have

    Sure but I can freely tell those assholes to go take a flying fuck at great length, and they won't jump on me, spray me, taze me, or hold a gun to my head and I have to like it or else. Slight difference and they know it. Some are drunk on it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    my2hands wrote:
    guess what.. some people are assholes... they could be doctors, lawyers, cashiers, teachers, cops... i have met assholes from every walk of life and profession... as i am sure you have


    unbelievable... you show me a doctor who is allowed to act legally under the patriot act and i will show you a COP


    you are out of your element on this one.
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I disagree. They are either being trained harder or their stress levels are higher. Something has changed in the police force, that I am sure of.

    I agree, but it's a symptom of a problem, they aren't the problem is my take on it. Stress is definitely higher in inner cities, and east texas, lol (sorry for hte no country for old men pun)
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." – Tolstoy


    good quote
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    beachdweller wrote:
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." – Tolstoy



    so using this quote here... are you saying.. people should form themselves to obey any law in the future that may label them as a criminal??

    is this what you are saying... or once again


    you dont know what you are saying
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    macgyver06 wrote:
    unbelievable... you show me a doctor who is allowed to act legally under the patriot act and i will show you a COP


    you are out of your element on this one.


    hahahahahaha... what a joke
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:
    so using this quote here... are you saying.. people should form themselves to obey any law in the future that may label them as a criminal??

    is this what you are saying... or once again


    you dont know what you are saying

    yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, wow and you were questioning whether I know what I'm saying? might want to work on those comprehension skills

    check yourself before you wreck yourself! DAS EFX

    let's try and different approach, what laws are criminalizing you for doing nothing wrong?
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Sure but I can freely tell those assholes to go take a flying fuck at great length, and they won't jump on me, spray me, taze me, or hold a gun to my head and I have to like it or else. Slight difference and they know it. Some are drunk on it.

    some are, but not most...it could be far worse, we need to fix what is wrong though.
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    macgyver06 wrote:
    unbelievable... you show me a doctor who is allowed to act legally under the patriot act and i will show you a COP


    you are out of your element on this one.

    what does this even mean?
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