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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    hydrogen is a joke. a myth. a sham.
    just like ethanol.

    hydrogen is not an energy PRODUCING system. it is a STORAGE system. do some in depth research on it, and you will see that at the end of the day, hydrogen isn't gonna help us.
    google "hydrogen scam" ... you will soon be depressed again.
    :(

    uhhh ... what part about that makes hydrogen a myth?? ... yes, right now hydrogen needs to be made - but attaching a wind turbine to a hydrogen plant makes that fuel portable and usable ... it's really no diffferent then refining oil ...

    based on some preliminary calculations - the hydrogen that is made where i live by a wind turbine costs about $3 a litre ... it may sound significant from the $1 a litre we pay here in canada for gas but its hardly a set back considering we aren't mass producing it at that price ... and it isn't subsidized like oil ..
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    hydrogen is a joke. a myth. a sham.
    just like ethanol.

    hydrogen is not an energy PRODUCING system. it is a STORAGE system. do some in depth research on it, and you will see that at the end of the day, hydrogen isn't gonna help us.
    google "hydrogen scam" ... you will soon be depressed again.
    :(

    same thing with ethanol ...
    the amount of oil used to grow, harvest, refine, and distribute all that corn-fuel is greater than the amount of energy produced by burning it in the end ...

    and on top of that, you just raped mother earth of more topsoil! topsoil that we no longer have much of.

    Wind?
    JLew addressed that.
    The number of turbines required is not only impractical, it is impossible ...

    Hydroelectric?
    If you damn all the rivers of the world, you kill so many species and so drasticaly alter the nutrient flow, and kill so many trees on the edges that you kill the world.

    Solar?
    not so bright ... :(

    Sorry guys.
    I'm an idealist too, but also a realist.
    Whomever said the only way to reduce our energy dependence is to reduce consumption is correct.

    The real truth is that we are over bought on infrastructure, and the human race is over populated ... billions over populated for what the earth can really carry ...

    the only true way to get off big energy is to cut our numbers in fourths or halves, and to stop pretending like we can be "consumers" ... i mean ... Daniel Quinn is right.

    Not that it is an enjoyable proposition.

    I'm just saying that returning to some more primitive form of civilization has to happen in the long run.
    The current high-tech industrial world is a drop in the bucket of time, and it ain't gonna last much longer.

    :(

    I don't know how you get the "scam" out of hydrogen. Everyone understands, at this point, almost all hydrogen produced in the US is made via fossil fuels.
    something you may not know - hydrogen gas can burn in an internal combustion engine.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    how long does gasoline last in storage? i'm gonna start stockpiling the stuff in my huge underground bunker
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    how long does gasoline last in storage? i'm gonna start stockpiling the stuff in my huge underground bunker
    you have room for me...the highest of sources have told me that their is an alien attack coming..


    my sources are joey and cole trickle.

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