Health Insurance.
macgyver06
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there is a poll on cnn and so far... it says 66% of the participants have said...yes... americans should be required to have health care.
REQUIRED? as in THE LAW?
am i missing something here??
average citizens.. are saying yes to this?
If this is the case with the percentages on this board...what exactly is the thinking behind this? that every american is required to have health insurance?
REQUIRED? as in THE LAW?
am i missing something here??
average citizens.. are saying yes to this?
If this is the case with the percentages on this board...what exactly is the thinking behind this? that every american is required to have health insurance?
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well when the insurance companies are REQUIRED to fully accept and fully cover everyone no matter the status of their health, then it could possibly have a little merit....but everyone knows that'll never happen. just one of the many reasons that we need universal health care and need to take the fucking insurance companies out of it
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If you think about that doesn't it seem odd that we are not required to have health insurance? I mean, think: by law, we have to fork out money to insure we can at least get our cars fixed.
Yet, who gives a fuck if the human body falls ill?
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Maybe we can get our cars to pay health insurance on us?
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People sue maliciously over car accidents. Nobody sues you if you get sick, as well nobody would sue you if you smashed up your car against a tree nobody owned.
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no no. we pay to insure that people get what they need fixed when someone else fucks it up. now, go reply to yourself again and beat up a cop, Mr. worlds strongest message board guy.
I don't follow you here. This sounds like Bush and his excuse for the high cost of health care: malpractice lawsuits.
I think my question is reasonable and logical with an eye on the good of society. Car insurance, on the whole, is (okay, mostly good for insurance companies, but) usually beneficial all around when something bad does happen.
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So, when somebody (or even thousands) gets sick from a virulent strain of Plague, through no fault of their own, we look away? Why not insure ourselves all the way around?
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You may get to stand in front of the Judge of Death.
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so its my responsibility (as a taxpayer) to pay for everyone who is too lazy to get health insurance on their own?
It is already your responsibilty to insure your car, yourself, and any damage that may occur on the public roadways. Do you? Would you drive without insurance if you could? What happens when you hit somebody and you are without insurance? Do you tell them, "sorry, you're paralyzed from the waist down, I don't have any insurance so you can't get corrective surgery, better luck next time?"
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if you get sick the Dr.s and hospitals will most certainly sue you if they don't get paid. that even applies for any expenses that your insurance company doesn't cover even if you have insurance
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my car was hit by an UN-INSURED driver with a suspened license. the accident was her fault. guess who has to pay for my car, me. i have BOTH car insurance AND health insurance. basically since she is NOT insured, i will pay my $500 deductible, and then the deductible/co-pay for MY hospital bills!
now, how is that fair?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
yes. what about those that would gladly get health insurance on their own if they could afford it? and what about those that get sick through no fault of their own that the insurance companies refuse to insure?
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how is this my problem? I work hard and pay for my own health insurence becuase my company's coverage sucks. you do see me asking you to pay for it do you?
Good question. It isn't. It isn't good practice to be without insurance because it could throw a monkeywrench into the well-being of another. Like you. That is why it required by law, at least in part.
Now if your state had a back-up plan for those that are unlikely to be able to afford the usual insurance, you more than likely wouldn't be in the grief you're in now.
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that's funny.
That's ironic to the extreme, coming from you.
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I think there are some major questions to.
A.Would this be only a requirement for the employed. Which would lead to being the law for Employers to make sure each employee is insured otherwise, the employer could face fines. or would it be solely the employees responsibility to comply with the law.
B.What Are the penalties to a violator? (someone caught without insurance)
C.Are there reinbursements for those who do not exercise or abuse there health insurance?
D. What are the levels of plans or would making it legal also make full health insurance covereage to every employee inthe united states available. Health at all levels including optical or dental. Or would these mandatory policies be strictly life necessity, no Cosmetic plans to be offered.
Cosmetics would be eyes, dental and any accident which leaves you cosmetically damaged but still able to live normally.
these are all things i think people dont ask.
Also by making these shitty health plans mandatory... you are once again giving all the cards to the Insurance Companies.. They can still choose doctors who comply with there rates and interests in a trade of better equipment and better salaries and bonuses paid to the organization who is doint the treating..
all these factors will raise costs more...and leave us in the samne situation... except we will all be paying a ridiculous tax disquised as Health care.
there is more here than meets the eye...you have to dig deeper...
it's everyone's problem not just yours. so you pay for your own health insurance, that's good.
what happens if you got a terrible illness, one that within a year or two you've already gone through you life-time insurance coverage but you still need 100's of thousands of $ worth of additional treatment and now you have no coverage? would you want it that I'd should tell you to fuck off and die than to pay anything toward your coverage? cause I'd never do that to another human being
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the states have medicaid for those who can't afford their own health insurance. it's easier for a poor american to get a hip replacement than for a wealthy canadian to get one.
i have medicare and i pay for my own supplimental plan. i'd rather keep control of my healthcare issues and keep the government out of it.
cool; i'll send my bills to you.
The thing of it is, OLS, once you subscribe to an insurance plan, you have subscribed to government. You have enrolled yourself into a socialist system. When you strip it down to its bare essentials, you are contributing money to a collective for the betterment of the whole of the people.
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of course the lazy want you to pay for them. that's the whole idea. but you're arguing with plant life here. my monthly meds now exceed $3200.00 per month. but i get them directly from the manufacturer at a total cost of $80.00/month. my medicare suppliment is through aarp and i can see any doctor i want. when i needed surgery 2 weeks ago everything was approved that day and surgery was sheduled before i left the office.
the point is that there are so many options but people are too lazy to investigate them. they want the government involved. the same government they say caused 9/11 and killed jfk. they want this terrible monster of a government to be in control of their healthcare. isn't it ironic?
Now we don't.
We want real government.
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uh you have medicare...the federal government IS paying for your healthcare...80% of it anyway
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i pick my doctors; i choose my treatment plan. if i need surgery; i'll pick where and when. i don't need the governments involvement.