How do you guys feel about the Media

catefrances

Commy wrote:

who decides what the news is?

rupert murdoch.

godpt3

macgyver06 wrote:

what are you talking about?

It means, you guys are all whine, and no cheese. You're content to just bitch and moan about the problem without actively getting involved. I used to believe as you do... that "whoever controls what you see, controls what you think." That's why I got into journalism in the first place: To make a difference. Would you sacrifice any kind of social life for low pay, long hours, extreme job stress and having the rest of the world look down on you as being only slightly more respectable than a lawyer?


Unless you actively work in a newsroom, you do not understand the pressures that go on.

godpt3

Commy wrote:

who decides what the news is?

I do. It's my job.

Jeanwah

godpt3 wrote:

It means, you guys are all whine, and no cheese. You're content to just bitch and moan about the problem without actively getting involved. I used to believe as you do... that "whoever controls what you see, controls what you think." That's why I got into journalism in the first place: To make a difference. Would you sacrifice any kind of social life for low pay, long hours, extreme job stress and having the rest of the world look down on you as being only slightly more respectable than a lawyer?


Unless you actively work in a newsroom, you do not understand the pressures that go on.

I may not work in a newsroom, but I know there is a LOT of censorship going on. A lot of control from up above you as a journalist, that you don't see. Do you honestly believe that what we see for American broadcasting is good journalism? It used to be, when those in the White House were ratted out and exposed for their scandalous endeavors. Why isn't any of that happening now? Could it possibly because the gov't controls the media? Absolutely. Every single thing we see on mainstream media has been approved to broadcast. We only see what the Feds allow us to. Remember, Bush threatened NASA scientists their jobs if they released decriminating material about global warming. Some scientists ended up quitting and released their findings anyway. Why aren't soldier's caskets shown on the news? Because the gov't won't allow it in the media.

I would however like to know what these "pressures" are that you talk about though.

godpt3

Jeanwah wrote:

I would however like to know what these "pressures" are that you talk about though.

Have you seen the financial statistics for print journalism recently? We're bleeding here.

godpt3

Jeanwah wrote:

I may not work in a newsroom, but I know there is a LOT of censorship going on. A lot of control from up above you as a journalist, that you don't see. Do you honestly believe that what we see for American broadcasting is good journalism?

TV is mindless brain candy. Nothing more. Nothing less. Anybody who thinks Katie Couric is a legitimate journalist is a fool. You know it's bad when you have to dig up Kronkite's corpse to lend yourself some credibility


Viva La Black Ink!!!!!

macgyver06

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I actualy disagree with this tremendously.
And i think online quizes (respectable or not) are HORRIBLY DESTRUCTIVE TO TRUE LIBERTY,
because they encourage people to click on something that appeals to them without understanding it, then they get a candidate.

Basicaly, they see, "more free services" and they go, "oh hell yeah" ... or whatever the free lunch du jour is ... and they get their candidate.

Online polls present people with questions that ask them about their idealized views on a reality that is much different than some silly quesiton.

It's all well and good for people to want this or that, or to agree or disagree with this or that ... but if they have no fundamental understanding of the reality that stands behind that issue, they are probably contributing to the cause.

Like subsidization ... "do you think the government should offer incentives to sustainable business models"?

Well, any well meaning folk would answer YES to that.
But the reality is who the hell defines "sustainable" and why should the government be in charge of giving those companies a competitive advantage over other companies? What if the government is wrong, and they end up funding a bad technology (ethanol, cough cough!) ...

enlightening those who wouldnt think twice before voting for their party i think can in no way be looked at as destructive. to me and you.... who think beyond black and white maybe...but we understand there are more to arguments than just saying broad statements...there are details



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tybird

catefrances wrote:

much like wikipedia the media is a good starting point. dont believe everything you hear or read. if it sounds too biased one way or the other there's a good reason for it. people have got to read more than the TV guide or the sports section.

or Doctors who tell you need expensive/dangerous operations......get a second opinion. Candidates manipulate the media, the media manipulates candidates.

tybird

godpt3 wrote:

TV is mindless brain candy. Nothing more. Nothing less. Anybody who thinks Katie Couric is a legitimate journalist is a fool. You know it's bad when you have to dig up Kronkite's corpse to lend yourself some credibility

I don't think Cronkite's quite dead....yet.

searchlightsoul

macgyver06 wrote:

controlling the people in our society that don't pay close attention to our elections and don't think twice before casting a vote about someone they really don't know.

I think its fair to say these voters make up a very good majority of the votes.



How do you feel about Television News Stations and Radio Corporations controlling what information gets out?

How do we stop these corporations from funding candidates? It should be Illegal. You can't pay high school students to get them to choose your college to play football in... so why can corporations pay amateurs running for the highest position in the world..

I agree with you. Basically its' not the media's job to hold the government accountable - people should be doing that themselves by thinkng critically about issues. Unfortunatly that is a skill few people develop. Now the media seems only to oppurtunistically distort news under the guise of 'delivering' it to the people.