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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Hehe...funding problem solved? Ok, so you've just massively increased the taxes for small business owners everywhere, thereby increasing unemployment and decreasing earnings for average workers, thereby forcing increased payouts from your system via SSI. Furthermore, you've completely bastardized a system that, while foolish, at least held onto a personal investment in personal future concept.

    In the end though, you'll probably still end up ahead by taking the full amount from the wealthy and paying them back an incredibly tiny percentage back. But wouldn't it be easier to simply steal their property, sell it at auction, and then dump the profits out of helicopters over major cities?
    No. I prefer the beaurocratic method. The "massive layoffs" will eventually balance out and would likely never even reach Great Depression standards.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    it goes here http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm and yes he does care. you really dont think so?

    "thats still not the point of this thread."

    ok see ya

    you have got to be the most misinformed person ever.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    end it today..cut everyone off.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    in a system they have accepted water isnt free, but the right for them to die wealthy is free.

    cut em' all off.
  • RainDog wrote:
    No. I prefer the beaurocratic method. The "massive layoffs" will eventually balance out and would likely never even reach Great Depression standards.

    Those are lofty goals you have there. But you're right, the "massive layoffs" would likely not reach Great Depression standards. Congratulations.

    Now, on a personal note, such a plan would be it for me here in this economic system. That would increase my tax obligation to obscene levels. Most of you may not realize this, but employers foot half of your social security bill. My personal and business taxes would skyrocket under your plan. At that point, I could move my entire business and any employees that wanted to join me to the Caymans or somewhere similar and do so at a lower cost than the obligations required of me under that plan.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you have got to be the most misinformed person ever.
    well please inform me
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    how long do we have to keep bending to ghosts?

    irresponsible ghosts.
  • macgyver06 wrote:
    cut em' all off.

    Amen. Please do. Keep every dime you've stolen from me. Just let us go.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well please inform me

    well how old are you?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    well how old are you?
    old enough now please show me the light of my misguided ways
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    old enough now please show me the light of my misguided ways

    lol...are you over 45
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Those are lofty goals you have there. But you're right, the "massive layoffs" would likely not reach Great Depression standards. Congratulations.

    Now, on a personal note, such a plan would be it for me here in this economic system. That would increase my tax obligation to obscene levels. Most of you may not realize this, but employers foot half of your social security bill. My personal and business taxes would skyrocket under your plan. At that point, I could move my entire business and any employees that wanted to join me to the Caymans or somewhere similar and do so at a lower cost than the obligations required of me under that plan.
    I realize that employers foot half the bill. I'm open to lowering the overall percentage paid to help offset the removal of the cap.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    lol...are you over 45
    no im not. what does my age have to do with warren buffet giving $37,000,000,000 to Bill gates Foundation?
  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    that's what happens when you have "skull & bones" in the white house/gov.,they are all about rapeing & pillaging.they have stolen the soul & future of our country and most of you don't even have a clue.know your enemy!!!find and read [ Antony Sutton - Americas Secret Establishment An Introduction to Skull and Bones ]
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no im not. what does my age have to do with warren buffet giving $37,000,000,000 to Bill gates Foundation?

    you wont be recieving any form of social security.
  • RainDog wrote:
    I realize that employers foot half the bill. I'm open to lowering the overall percentage paid to help offset the removal of the cap.

    How so? I mean, you're still going to hold me and the minority like me responsible for bridging your massive budget deficit. If you simply want to "offset the removal of the cap", how do you end up ahead?
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    JamMastaE wrote:
    that's what happens when you have "skull & bones" in the white house/gov.,they are all about rapeing & pillaging.they have stolen the soul & future of our country and most of you don't even have a clue.know your enemy!!!find and read [ Antony Sutton - Americas Secret Establishment An Introduction to Skull and Bones ]

    that room last night was full of dead people.

    i almost threw up... is Bush a King or a President??
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    JamMastaE wrote:
    that's what happens when you have "skull & bones" in the white house/gov.,they are all about rapeing & pillaging.they have stolen the soul & future of our country and most of you don't even have a clue.know your enemy!!!find and read [ Antony Sutton - Americas Secret Establishment An Introduction to Skull and Bones ]
    Rise Up!!!!! Rise Up!!!!!!! its time for a REVOLUTION!!!
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Rise Up!!!!! Rise Up!!!!!!! its time for a REVOLUTION!!!

    its already begun ;) your a little late.

    seriously...What were they clapping for last night???
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    How so? I mean, you're still going to hold me and the minority like me responsible for bridging your massive budget deficit. If you simply want to "offset the removal of the cap", how do you end up ahead?
    I didn't say completely offset. And, to be fair, I'd be holding the entire country responsible, not just your minority.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you wont be recieving any form of social security.
    ok that great. i'll ask again, you seem very confused. how does this have anything to do with warren buffet giving 37 billion dollars to bill gates foundation? when I showed you the link to where his money would go, you said I was the the most misinformed person ever
  • RainDog wrote:
    I didn't say completely offset. And, to be fair, I'd be holding the entire country responsible, not just your minority.

    So how is the person who makes $41,000 / year affected?
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    So how is the person who makes $41,000 / year affected?
    By paying into Social Security.
  • RainDog wrote:
    By paying into Social Security.

    Hehe...will they be paying more or less or the same? Will their benefits increase or decrease or remain unchanged?
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    im gonna start the macgyver security fund.. everyone in the country gives me 1 dollar a week...

    BUT ITS ONLY 1 DOLLAR...thats not hurting anyone
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    oh...when im 70 i will start making charity donations, because its hard to sleep at night and im trying to get to heaven.
  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    revolution is no joke.also it's your duty as an American.the Constitution tells us we must rise up and oust gov. when it becomes corrupt.but the problem is it's hard to find men like Patrick Henry now-a-days.plus many think it's an antiquated idea,but as long as there is tyranny and those who long to be free it will never die.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    JamMastaE wrote:
    revolution is no joke.also it's your duty as an American.the Constitution tells us we must rise up and oust gov. when it becomes corrupt.but the problem is it's hard to find men like Patrick Henry now-a-days.plus many think it's an antiquated idea,but as long as there is tyranny and those who long to be free it will never die.

    we could redecorate the gov't in 1 week.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    JamMastaE wrote:
    revolution is no joke.also it's your duty as an American.the Constitution tells us we must rise up and oust gov. when it becomes corrupt.but the problem is it's hard to find men like Patrick Henry now-a-days.plus many think it's an antiquated idea,but as long as there is tyranny and those who long to be free it will never die.
    I feel free and see no need to oust the government. they are corrupt though. they need to stop wasting our hard earned tax dollars
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    lol...they were all silent when he was speaking!!!

    i can't get over this!
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