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The Facts: History of Iran, Kuwait, Iraq and the U.S.

macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
1. Kuwait funded Iraq to engage in a war called: Iran/Iraq war (macgyver06)
2. Fact that the US government supported the gasing of Iranians and pro-Iranians Shias in Iraq.(mammasan)


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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    how do you know Kuwait funded the Iraq.Iran war?


    Saddam invaded Kuwait killing, torturing, and raping as many Kuwaiti civilians as possible.

    saddam used chemical weapons against iranians.
  • darkcrowdarkcrow Posts: 1,102
    the us helped bring saddam into power. they also gave him wmd's.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Kuwait

    REFERENCE TO MY POST
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how do you know Kuwait funded the Iraq.Iran war?


    Saddam invaded Kuwait killing, torturing, and raping as many Kuwaiti civilians as possible.

    saddam used chemical weapons against iranians.

    JLEW24ASU

    if you are referring to the citizens he gassed.

    They were kurdish and residing in Iraq. Not Iran.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    im trying to keep a post on here factual, so if you can please post references, and i will do the same.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Kuwait

    REFERENCE TO MY POST


    cool.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    JLEW24ASU

    if you are referring to the citizens he gassed.

    They were kurdish and residing in Iraq. Not Iran.

    no Im refering to Iran. saddam used mustard gas against the iranians during the war
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    I am thinking with establishing the history, we can understand how our governments choose their allies.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no Im refering to Iran. saddam used mustard gas against the iranians during the war

    I am not sure if that is a fact, i wouldn't doubt it though.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    I am not sure if that is a fact, i wouldn't doubt it though.


    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/iran_iraq_war/iran_iraq_war3.php


    "Four major battles were fought from April to August 1988, in which the Iraqis massively and effectively used chemical weapons to defeat the Iranians."
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    macgyver06 wrote:
    JLEW24ASU

    if you are referring to the citizens he gassed.

    They were kurdish and residing in Iraq. Not Iran.

    Actually, it was both. There are some de-classified memos out there that show this. The U.S. was concerned that supporting Hussein could pose a political problem because he was using chemical weapons against Iran during that war.

    Sorry I don't have any links, but I'm 100% sure that info is out there.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Not to stray to far off course but Saddam was recently convicted of gassing Shi'tes back in 1982. At that point in time where we not providing him with weapons and intelligence of where to attack. Odd how the same action was acceptable back then but is criminal now.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_war#The_Tanker_War_and_U.S._entanglement
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew...that is a commercial web site, with no references and in the first paragraphs, there is major speculation. but again..im sure they used chems on iran, but its still not proven on this post... so it shouldnt be here.

    and saturnal....reference...
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    Not to stray to far off course but Saddam was recently convicted of gassing Shi'tes back in 1982. At that point in time where we not providing him with weapons and intelligence of where to attack. Odd how the same action was acceptable back then but is criminal now.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_war#The_Tanker_War_and_U.S._entanglement


    so what is your fact...
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    so what is your fact...

    Fact that the US government supported the gasing of Iranians and pro-Iranians Shias in Iraq.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    jlew...that is a commercial web site, with no references and in the first paragraphs, there is major speculation. but again..im sure they used chems on iran, but its still not proven on this post... so it shouldnt be here.

    and saturnal....reference...


    I dont know what to tell ya. look it up and find it for yourself.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    Fact that the US government supported the gasing of Iranians and pro-Iranians Shias in Iraq.

    Thank You. I updated the original post.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont know what to tell ya. look it up and find it for yourself.

    I want you to tell me the truth. That is what this is about.
    Looking for facts.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    I want you to tell me the truth. That is what this is about.
    Looking for facts.


    well you can go fuck yourself. how bout that? Iraq used gas against Iran. that is a fact
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well you can go fuck yourself. how bout that? Iraq used gas against Iran. that is a fact

    reference?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    reference?


    I already gave you one. you dont believe it, so go find your own.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I already gave you one. you dont believe it, so go find your own.

    you don't have to contribute. You gave me a commercial site with no references.
  • fragileblakefragileblake Posts: 716
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well you can go fuck yourself.

    How mature.........
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    fragileblake wrote:
    How mature.........

    in a search for facts...i expected this from some..lol
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    macgyver06 wrote:
    1. Kuwait funded Iraq to engage in a war called: Iran/Iraq war (macgyver06)
    2. Fact that the US government supported the gasing of Iranians and pro-Iranians Shias in Iraq.(mammasan)


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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Date Nation Event
    2700 BC Iran (Persia) Iran was referred to in the West as Persia until
    March 21, 1935 when it was officially recognized
    as Iran
    4 July 1776 United States declared independence from Great Britain
    1923 Iraq From UK
    June 19, 1961 Kuwait from UK

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_date_of_nationhood
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  • TheVoiceInsideTheVoiceInside Posts: 361
    chopitdown wrote:
    Date Nation Event
    2700 BC Iran (Persia) Iran was referred to in the West as Persia until
    March 21, 1935 when it was officially recognized
    as Iran
    4 July 1776 United States declared independence from Great Britain
    1923 Iraq From UK
    June 19, 1961 Kuwait from UK

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_date_of_nationhood





    Kuwait was part of Irak.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    TheVoiceInside wrote:
    Kuwait was part of Irak.

    i'm sorry i got it from wikipedia, it can't be wrong. ;)
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    TheVoiceInside wrote:
    Kuwait was part of Irak.


    I may be wrong but I don't think that Kuwait was part of Iraq.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kuwait
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    macgyver06 wrote:
    jlew...that is a commercial web site, with no references and in the first paragraphs, there is major speculation. but again..im sure they used chems on iran, but its still not proven on this post... so it shouldnt be here.

    and saturnal....reference...

    One reference to a declassified U.S. State Dept document on U.S. support for Iraq against Iran, and the concern about chemical weapons being used.

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB107/iraq06.pdf

    There are a bunch more at:

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB107/index.htm

    These are all FOI Referenced.
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