you dont agree with me that people who feel pressured and outcasts throw their newborn babies away sometimes?
By your logic we should ban free speech, because don't you see that when people can speak freely, it supports white supremecists and neo-nazis to spew vitrol.
You can't set bad policy to stop real harm.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
you just learn this on sesame street...im sorry i missed the part on the board...that said..write in random things you know thats common knowledge...do you feel smarter now?
Absolutely! But your point wasn't that it happens, your point was that it justifies abortion. That makes you resemble your first statment.
no you jackass you dont understand and thats why theres 170 posts in this thread
you think people want to go through an abortion process...can you comprehend how it could possibly make you feel to stop what could eventually be your kid
so a process that allows you to make the decision ealry AND THIS WAY A GOOD GIRL ISNT DEMONIZED BY FUCKS LIKE YOU WHEN SHE HAS A KID WHEN SHES 16.
I DONT AGREE WITH ABORTION, BUT WE NEED TO STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT
so what do you two suggest...once its made illegal...
is that it.
done deal?
You mean once all 50 states and protectorates make it illegal?
I guess
a. adoption
b. don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.
what the fuck is so hard about either of those?
once again, i have never said i have a problem with abortion.
I have a problem with people pretending that they aren't extinguishing a life. I think that is dishonest.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
so what do you two suggest...once its made illegal...
is that it.
done deal?
Who said anything about making abortion illegal. If the decision was left up to the states there would still be plenty of states where abortion would still be legal.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
You mean once all 50 states and protectorates make it illegal?
I guess
a. adoption
b. don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.
what the fuck is so hard about either of those?
once again, i have never said i have a problem with abortion.
I have a problem with people pretending that they aren't extinguishing a life. I think that is dishonest.
and dude... option b... you know how moronic you sound...lol
and dude... option b... you know how moronic you sound...lol
SO the idea that freedom, rights, and liberty come NECESSARILY DEPENDENT upon duty, personal responsibility and good moral judgement is moronic to you?
:(
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Because a fetus is ALIVE.
That little tiny heart you see beating on the ultrasound?
Duh!
SO the idea that freedom, rights, and liberty come NECESSARILY DEPENDENT upon duty, personal responsibility and good moral judgement is moronic to you?
:(
the heart pumps blood through the body..if it comes out of you and is left unattended..it stops beating after some time. as science improves and we get older... we are noW determining a pregnancy within days before the beating even happens...
your stance in a society that allows and tolerates greed and outcasting its young citizens... your stance is tough luck... you will do what i say with your body and thats the end of story....
the heart pumps blood through the body..if it comes out of you and is left unattended..it stops beating after some time. as science improves and we get older... we are not determining a pregnancy within days before the beating even happens...
your stance in a society that allows and tolerates greed and outcasting its young citizens... your stance is tough luck... you will do what i say with your body and thats the end of story....
this thought process is beyond me
If THE PEOPLE think abortion violates some moral code, is unethical, or otherwise unacceptable, the PEOPLE should be able to vote against such a practice.
I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about when you talk about "within days before that heart starts beating" ... a fetus, whether you like it or not, is a LIVING COLLECTION OF CELLS FROM INCEPTION ... we can argue when it becomes a human all day, but to pretend like you are just chopping up a potato is fundamentaly dishonest. Hell, even a potato is ALIVE, ya'll would ALL admit that, i hope.
And i don't know WHAT the fuck you are talking about when you say i "tolerate greed" and "outcasting its young citizens", but you can fuck off with the prejudgement.
And as for your first sentence about the heart pumping blood and stopping, what the fuck are you even ranting about?
You are starting to sound like that slow kid that used to post in here, that we all tried to be supportive of, but secretely laughed at. (WHAT was that guys name!??!)
See those LIVING cells?
Thats all i really am trying to get across. I'm not some rabid pro-lifer.
I just get sick of hearing people argue that it "isn't a life until it's born". which is retarded.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If THE PEOPLE think abortion violates some moral code, is unethical, or otherwise unacceptable, the PEOPLE should be able to vote against such a practice.
I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about when you talk about "within days before that heart starts beating" ... a fetus, whether you like it or not, is a LIVING COLLECTION OF CELLS FROM INCEPTION ... we can argue when it becomes a human all day, but to pretend like you are just chopping up a potato is fundamentaly dishonest. Hell, even a potato is ALIVE, ya'll would ALL admit that, i hope.
And i don't know WHAT the fuck you are talking about when you say i "tolerate greed" and "outcasting its young citizens", but you can fuck off with the prejudgement.
And as for your first sentence about the heart pumping blood and stopping, what the fuck are you even ranting about?
You are starting to sound like that slow kid that used to post in here, that we all tried to be supportive of, but secretely laughed at. (WHAT was that guys name!??!)
you cant control a persons mind. its personal choice ultimately. you cant see that and im sorry for you.. but it wont be made illegal and ron paul wont become president
you cant control a persons mind. its personal choice ultimately.
So is 1st degree murder.
What is your point?
People do bad things everyday.
It doesn't mean we should sanction it.
Sorry you don't "see that", myself.
Again, i could care less if someone gets an abortion.
Just don't give me some crap about how its not alive, and its "your choice" so there. People should be responsible with their bodies and actions. You can't even agree that people should be responsible for their actions. You just seem to think that since science has figured out away to "solve the problem", it should be acceptable.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
People do bad things everyday.
It doesn't mean we should sanction it.
Sorry you don't "see that", myself.
Again, i could care less if someone gets an abortion.
Just don't give me some crap about how its not alive, and its "your choice" so there. People should be responsible with their bodies and actions. You can't even agree that people should be responsible for their actions. You just seem to think that since science has figured out away to "solve the problem", it should be acceptable.
this process can prevent girls from having to make a terrible decision which will send them to jail for life... why would you want to be a part of that when there are proven ways to help these kids out... not everyone is as privaledged with education like us...not everyone can think like this..and fuck.. NOT EVRYONE IS A GUY WHO DOESNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT IN THIS COUNTRY
which is terrifying to these kids... go to a school and ask them... they are talking about suicide as an alternative..
Because a fetus is ALIVE.
That little tiny heart you see beating on the ultrasound?
Duh!
SO the idea that freedom, rights, and liberty come NECESSARILY DEPENDENT upon duty, personal responsibility and good moral judgement is moronic to you?
:(
You do realize that a fetus prior to 25 weeks of gestation is incapable of surviving outside the womb. The brain and lungs have not fully formed at this point and even provinging every life support measure known to man will not help it live. To me that does not equal a life. You have evry right to believe that it is a life but don't believe for a second that that makes you right. This also applies to me that is why abortion is personal issue between the parents and their conscience.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
You do realize that a fetus prior to 25 weeks of gestation is incapable of surviving outside the womb. The brain and lungs have not fully formed at this point and even provinging every life support measure known to man will not help it live. To me that does not equal a life. You have evry right to believe that it is a life but don't believe for a second that that makes you right. This also applies to me that is why abortion is personal issue between the parents and their conscience.
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what the hell are you talking about...
ITS PERSONAL CHOICE
do you understand this can not be made illegal.. ITS DANGEROUS!
Absolutely! But your point wasn't that it happens, your point was that it justifies abortion. That makes you resemble your first statment.
By your logic we should ban free speech, because don't you see that when people can speak freely, it supports white supremecists and neo-nazis to spew vitrol.
You can't set bad policy to stop real harm.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
No. You might though.
It was a personal choice that led to becoming pregnant, as well.
What's your point?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
no you jackass you dont understand and thats why theres 170 posts in this thread
you think people want to go through an abortion process...can you comprehend how it could possibly make you feel to stop what could eventually be your kid
so a process that allows you to make the decision ealry AND THIS WAY A GOOD GIRL ISNT DEMONIZED BY FUCKS LIKE YOU WHEN SHE HAS A KID WHEN SHES 16.
I DONT AGREE WITH ABORTION, BUT WE NEED TO STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT
No -- states themselves must ratify Constitutional Amendments
Court make rulings, not policy.
Hehe...I'm not demonizing anyone for having a kid or having an abortion.
I agree. What I don't agree with is your reasoning.
Ok...how about a complete genocide of the human race? That would reduce the annual number of child killings to zero.
Well that would still be killing. How about a complete sterilization of the human race. This way you completely eliminate the need for abortions.
Hehe...absolutely. Much better.
People's thought processes never cease to amaze me....
NM.
You're right. FFG.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
is that it.
done deal?
I guess
a. adoption
b. don't get pregnant if you don't want a kid.
what the fuck is so hard about either of those?
once again, i have never said i have a problem with abortion.
I have a problem with people pretending that they aren't extinguishing a life. I think that is dishonest.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Who said anything about making abortion illegal. If the decision was left up to the states there would still be plenty of states where abortion would still be legal.
Abortion likely won't be made illegal in this country. And I'm not advocating that it should be made illegal.
My point is that one does not justify abortion using the fact that it "lowers child killing". All sorts of horrible things "lower child killing".
How is it dishonest?
so you think a kid gettign thrown away terrrible but not as terrible as someone being dishonest to themselves
and dude... option b... you know how moronic you sound...lol
That little tiny heart you see beating on the ultrasound?
Duh!
SO the idea that freedom, rights, and liberty come NECESSARILY DEPENDENT upon duty, personal responsibility and good moral judgement is moronic to you?
:(
If I opened it now would you not understand?
the heart pumps blood through the body..if it comes out of you and is left unattended..it stops beating after some time. as science improves and we get older... we are noW determining a pregnancy within days before the beating even happens...
your stance in a society that allows and tolerates greed and outcasting its young citizens... your stance is tough luck... you will do what i say with your body and thats the end of story....
this thought process is beyond me
If THE PEOPLE think abortion violates some moral code, is unethical, or otherwise unacceptable, the PEOPLE should be able to vote against such a practice.
I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about when you talk about "within days before that heart starts beating" ... a fetus, whether you like it or not, is a LIVING COLLECTION OF CELLS FROM INCEPTION ... we can argue when it becomes a human all day, but to pretend like you are just chopping up a potato is fundamentaly dishonest. Hell, even a potato is ALIVE, ya'll would ALL admit that, i hope.
And i don't know WHAT the fuck you are talking about when you say i "tolerate greed" and "outcasting its young citizens", but you can fuck off with the prejudgement.
And as for your first sentence about the heart pumping blood and stopping, what the fuck are you even ranting about?
You are starting to sound like that slow kid that used to post in here, that we all tried to be supportive of, but secretely laughed at. (WHAT was that guys name!??!)
See those LIVING cells?
Thats all i really am trying to get across. I'm not some rabid pro-lifer.
I just get sick of hearing people argue that it "isn't a life until it's born". which is retarded.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
you cant control a persons mind. its personal choice ultimately. you cant see that and im sorry for you.. but it wont be made illegal and ron paul wont become president
So is 1st degree murder.
What is your point?
People do bad things everyday.
It doesn't mean we should sanction it.
Sorry you don't "see that", myself.
Again, i could care less if someone gets an abortion.
Just don't give me some crap about how its not alive, and its "your choice" so there. People should be responsible with their bodies and actions. You can't even agree that people should be responsible for their actions. You just seem to think that since science has figured out away to "solve the problem", it should be acceptable.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
this process can prevent girls from having to make a terrible decision which will send them to jail for life... why would you want to be a part of that when there are proven ways to help these kids out... not everyone is as privaledged with education like us...not everyone can think like this..and fuck.. NOT EVRYONE IS A GUY WHO DOESNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT IN THIS COUNTRY
which is terrifying to these kids... go to a school and ask them... they are talking about suicide as an alternative..
girls keeping their legs closed prevents unwanted pregnancies. are YOU aware of this?
i thought it said abortion. abortion is the death penalty for the innocent. no trial; no judge; no jury.
You do realize that a fetus prior to 25 weeks of gestation is incapable of surviving outside the womb. The brain and lungs have not fully formed at this point and even provinging every life support measure known to man will not help it live. To me that does not equal a life. You have evry right to believe that it is a life but don't believe for a second that that makes you right. This also applies to me that is why abortion is personal issue between the parents and their conscience.
conscience........well put