My perspective

ruud

Hello this message willbe not long considering the bad internet cvonnection and the keyboard that fails to meet my typing speed. I am currently hiding from beirut and the dangerous areas, if any safe ones exist, anywhere on this earth for that matter that we havent cut down and made into new tables. anyways bear with my typing since it is bothering me more not having time and the words to tell you how i feeland the very details which are included in a regularpost.

i want to stress to a few out there who support israel with a few words.
i am not here to curse you, or wish death upon you, but simply with a few words tell you that it is now up to YOUR COUNTRY to stop. Thge leader of the terrorist group in lebanon spoke hours ago which i heard to the full, he said exactly, they will stop firing if israelstop firing. so now it seems to me when the world asks for peace oh lets have peace cease-fire they forget to remember what the words actually entail. itmeans that both parties agree. well one agreed. they have not yet done what htye said at the start of the war which is get rid of hizballah, since they are sticking to this excuse for not accepting cease-fire, then why arent they compelting that task.wellbecause they cant. so they comb the inoccent innstead? you explain that to me please. they threaten beirut. they threaten tell aviv. well if you xdont we wont, but that does seem to work does it because whatever hizballah does, israel takes 10 times more than it really is, and damage 10 times more that of innocent children in hospitals.
i could go on for hours as you all could as well but my perspective here isjsut to shed some light on what is true, if ever you could believe me to be un--biased. i do not say things for prupose orfreligion or anger, or pride. i say it simplyas i see it.
Israel has the decision to make.provoke beirut, and thewar turns into a possible worldwar3, if they choose to accept the fact that they cannot destroy hizballah right at the moment and stop firing and accept cease-fire then maybe something willclear up. right now they are stubborn on the basis of that they cannot go out iwthout doing anything and everyone knows it.
im ranting, buti have little time and much thought and its hard to sum up. i willreply very soon when i can but its hard as you can see things havent been easy lately.
it is up to israel
you must undedrstand
do not tell meabout hizballah laying its wearpons you know that is now the way just yet.

'everybody's going to war,but we dont know what were fighting for, you tell me its a worthy cause, no cause could be so worthy'
believe me nobody knows why its happenbing

i have to go electiricty is in and out. i am not in a shelter i am not sturglgling for food.not yet. dont feel forme that way as i know you wont.but know that OTHERS ARE. know that we are all sufferiegn the pain of destroying our home by something we cannot control.but you can
you can change
youcan change lives
you can and oncew you believe it it will happen.
you know that throught history when people come togehter things happen. youknow once voice matters as much as everything. as wevery vote counts your vpoice counts. raise your hands put them together. look at the pearl jam ten album and understand what you cna do when you put your hands togehther, your voices together and say few words that can change the world.
you cna change my life
you can change our lives
you can change my life. yes you can.

imagine all the people living life in peace,thoselyrics to john lennons 'imagine' could not make any more sense at the moment.

see youallsoon, thank you for reading ifyou did, thank you so much
take care and ill be with you all soon.
thank you so much.

jsand

So Hezbollah can reload and do it again, maybe with a nuke from Iran?

No thanks.

RockinInCanada

ruud wrote:

Hello this message willbe not long considering the bad internet cvonnection and the keyboard that fails to meet my typing speed. I am currently hiding from beirut and the dangerous areas, if any safe ones exist, anywhere on this earth for that matter that we havent cut down and made into new tables. anyways bear with my typing since it is bothering me more not having time and the words to tell you how i feeland the very details which are included in a regularpost.

i want to stress to a few out there who support israel with a few words.
i am not here to curse you, or wish death upon you, but simply with a few words tell you that it is now up to YOUR COUNTRY to stop. Thge leader of the terrorist group in lebanon spoke hours ago which i heard to the full, he said exactly, they will stop firing if israelstop firing. so now it seems to me when the world asks for peace oh lets have peace cease-fire they forget to remember what the words actually entail. itmeans that both parties agree. well one agreed. they have not yet done what htye said at the start of the war which is get rid of hizballah, since they are sticking to this excuse for not accepting cease-fire, then why arent they compelting that task.wellbecause they cant. so they comb the inoccent innstead? you explain that to me please. they threaten beirut. they threaten tell aviv. well if you xdont we wont, but that does seem to work does it because whatever hizballah does, israel takes 10 times more than it really is, and damage 10 times more that of innocent children in hospitals.
i could go on for hours as you all could as well but my perspective here isjsut to shed some light on what is true, if ever you could believe me to be un--biased. i do not say things for prupose orfreligion or anger, or pride. i say it simplyas i see it.
Israel has the decision to make.provoke beirut, and thewar turns into a possible worldwar3, if they choose to accept the fact that they cannot destroy hizballah right at the moment and stop firing and accept cease-fire then maybe something willclear up. right now they are stubborn on the basis of that they cannot go out iwthout doing anything and everyone knows it.
im ranting, buti have little time and much thought and its hard to sum up. i willreply very soon when i can but its hard as you can see things havent been easy lately.
it is up to israel
you must undedrstand
do not tell meabout hizballah laying its wearpons you know that is now the way just yet.

'everybody's going to war,but we dont know what were fighting for, you tell me its a worthy cause, no cause could be so worthy'
believe me nobody knows why its happenbing

i have to go electiricty is in and out. i am not in a shelter i am not sturglgling for food.not yet. dont feel forme that way as i know you wont.but know that OTHERS ARE. know that we are all sufferiegn the pain of destroying our home by something we cannot control.but you can
you can change
youcan change lives
you can and oncew you believe it it will happen.
you know that throught history when people come togehter things happen. youknow once voice matters as much as everything. as wevery vote counts your vpoice counts. raise your hands put them together. look at the pearl jam ten album and understand what you cna do when you put your hands togehther, your voices together and say few words that can change the world.
you cna change my life
you can change our lives
you can change my life. yes you can.

imagine all the people living life in peace,thoselyrics to john lennons 'imagine' could not make any more sense at the moment.

see youallsoon, thank you for reading ifyou did, thank you so much
take care and ill be with you all soon.
thank you so much.

Thanks for the post ruud.....I am with you...and don't let the war mongers get to you too bad...they are a small minority....the majority is with you in your support for a quick peaceful resolution....keep safe buddy....

Ahnimus

Thanks Ruud

It's good to hear from you again. I'm with you.

Stay safe.

Ahnimus

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Thanks for the post ruud.....I am with you...and don't let the war mongers get to you too bad...they are a small minority....the majority is with you in your support for a quick peaceful resolution....keep safe buddy....

Damn, we responded at the same time, and with the exception of the term warmongers, pretty well said the same thing. That's social conditioning for you. I'm moving to my own island. I'm gonna start my own country.

Eliot Rosewater

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Thanks for the post ruud.....I am with you...and don't let the war mongers get to you too bad...they are a small minority....the majority is with you in your support for a quick peaceful resolution....keep safe buddy....

I'm with you too, ruud. Hope things turn around quick over there.

Eliot Rosewater

Ahnimus wrote:

I'm moving to my own island. I'm gonna start my own country.

Man...just when I was starting to like you...you get all power hungry on me.

Ahnimus

don't gimme no wrote:

Man...just when I was starting to like you...you get all power hungry on me.

Not power, I just want to be free from soceity. I can buy an island of the east coast of Canada for around $300,000 if I had that kind of cash.

Abookamongstthemany

Ruud, please know that all of us here will have you and your countrymen in our thoughts and are hoping every second of the day for a stop to this madness and some peace to somehow find it's way back to Lebanon.

Infinity_Now

peace

Eliot Rosewater

Ahnimus wrote:

Not power, I just want to be free from soceity. I can buy an island of the east coast of Canada for around $300,000 if I had that kind of cash.

That's interesting....how does one go about starting his own country? Is that all you need, you're own land that's independent of any nation? Is that possible?

Ahnimus

don't gimme no wrote:

That's interesting....how does one go about starting his own country? Is that all you need, you're own land that's independent of any nation? Is that possible?

No, unfortunately the land is still in Canada, maybe after 100 years I could declare independance. Then again Israel did after what, 20 years?

Eliot Rosewater

Ahnimus wrote:

No, unfortunately the land is still in Canada, maybe after 100 years I could declare independance. Then again Israel did after what, 20 years?

lmao, "declare independance." The Mountys are coming...the mountys are coming.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Thank you for your words, Ruud. You have my full support. Keep safe.

NewJPage

stay safe. peace

ruud

hey all thanks for you comments are replies. im glad people still care and havent put this behind them as many wars that seem to hav eno solution are forgotten about. im thankful everytime i get to get online and read what people have to say.

In the situation if anything got worse i hope that ill be able to come on again soon enough to talk to you ll again, if not then its just a matter of time before ill write back to you all.

take care keep supporting the cause of world without this nonsense of a war. everyone knows we have a whole lot of other problems without the ones caused by violence.

RockinInCanada

ruud wrote:

hey all thanks for you comments are replies. im glad people still care and havent put this behind them as many wars that seem to hav eno solution are forgotten about. im thankful everytime i get to get online and read what people have to say.

In the situation if anything got worse i hope that ill be able to come on again soon enough to talk to you ll again, if not then its just a matter of time before ill write back to you all.

take care keep supporting the cause of world without this nonsense of a war. everyone knows we have a whole lot of other problems without the ones caused by violence.

Peace to you Ruud.....

BeBe

Ahnimus wrote:

Not power, I just want to be free from soceity. I can buy an island of the east coast of Canada for around $300,000 if I had that kind of cash.

Well i have that cash..:)P

Well not that much, but I can sell my home and I think it would be enough to by an island. My own government. What an idea. My sons can't be drafted into nonsense wars, wow even better idea....The idea seems really nice...peace all around..

I'm with ya ruud...stay safe..

Ahnimus

BeBe wrote:

Well i have that cash..:)P

Well not that much, but I can sell my home and I think it would be enough to by an island. My own government. What an idea. My sons can't be drafted into nonsense wars. The idea seems really nice.

I'm with ya ruud...stay safe..

Cool, can I live on your island?

Here you go http://www.privateislandsonline.com/burntcanf.htm
Burnt Island off newfoundland $199,000 CAD. You can buy islands elsewhere too, but this kind of island in B.C. costs a couple of millions.

shiraz

ruud wrote:

Hello this message willbe not long considering the bad internet cvonnection and the keyboard that fails to meet my typing speed. I am currently hiding from beirut and the dangerous areas, if any safe ones exist, anywhere on this earth for that matter that we havent cut down and made into new tables. anyways bear with my typing since it is bothering me more not having time and the words to tell you how i feeland the very details which are included in a regularpost.

Hi! I was wondering what's going on with you. Did you also wake up today to sound of the alram/explosions like us?

ruud wrote:

i want to stress to a few out there who support israel with a few words.
i am not here to curse you, or wish death upon you, but simply with a few words tell you that it is now up to YOUR COUNTRY to stop. Thge leader of the terrorist group in lebanon spoke hours ago which i heard to the full, he said exactly, they will stop firing if israelstop firing. so now it seems to me when the world asks for peace oh lets have peace cease-fire they forget to remember what the words actually entail. itmeans that both parties agree.

I saw it too, but Nasralla meant he wants the air-force attacks on him to stop, and if we do that then he'll stop fireing on Israeli civilians (hence, the battle via ground troops remains). The problem is he said that before after Qana, but he still fired on Kiryat Shmona (though it wasn't as intense as it usually was) and deeper into Afulla. I think that's why my govt don't really trust his words. However, we are running out of time so I believe that cease-fire will come in one way or another.

ruud wrote:

well one agreed. they have not yet done what htye said at the start of the war which is get rid of hizballah, since they are sticking to this excuse for not accepting cease-fire, then why arent they compelting that task.wellbecause they cant.

No one said we can, ever since day one the IDF talked about getting rid of 50% of Hizbullah's power. If Nasralla is asking us to stop shooting, it means he is in trouble (you don't really think he cares about civilians, do you? cause if you do, you are VERY naive), so I believe the IDF will try to keep hurting him in every way they can, till they have no other choice but to stop. Yes, it means both of us are gonna keep on suffering, and that's really some bad news :(

ruud wrote:

so they bomb the inoccent innstead? you explain that to me please. they threaten beirut. they threaten tell aviv. well if you xdont we wont, but that does seem to work does it because whatever hizballah does, israel takes 10 times more than it really is, and damage 10 times more that of innocent children in hospitals.

Hizbullah threatened on Tel Aviv, THAN we threatened on Beirut - Only thing we did up untill now is shooting at Hizbullah neighborhoods in southern Beirut. Either way, it does sound like a stupid game. The problem is, they are playing with our lifes :(

ruud wrote:

i could go on for hours as you all could as well but my perspective here isjsut to shed some light on what is true, if ever you could believe me to be un--biased. i do not say things for prupose orfreligion or anger, or pride. i say it simplyas i see it.

Just like me.

ruud wrote:

Israel has the decision to make.provoke beirut, and thewar turns into a possible worldwar3, if they choose to accept the fact that they cannot destroy hizballah right at the moment and stop firing and accept cease-fire then maybe something willclear up. right now they are stubborn on the basis of that they cannot go out iwthout doing anything and everyone knows it.

Again, Nasralla was the one who threatened Tel Aviv, we didn't fire at Beirut besides Hizbullah's areas, and there's no reason why we would do such a thing. This is Nasralla with his same attempts of stirring things up, just like he was trying to pull Syria into this when Israel repeatedly said we don't want to have anything to do with Syria.

*edit*: I forgot to mention that yesterday night (~21:00), Nasralla did try to fire 1 or 2 missiles towards Tel Aviv, how ever we were able to shot them down before they've reached their target. No one got hurt, and we didn't bomb Beirut nor shut down Lebanon's electricity power. Like I said, we can't trust that guy - he says what he wants and does what he wants.

ruud wrote:

im ranting, buti have little time and much thought and its hard to sum up. i willreply very soon when i can but its hard as you can see things havent been easy lately. it is up to israel. you must undedrstand. do not tell meabout hizballah laying its wearpons you know that is now the way just yet.

I didn't understand your last sentence, but never mind. I think it is up not only to the both of us, but also to the rest of the world. Nothing good would happen if no one is gonna help you get rid of Hizbullah - we'll end up in the same spot we are now maybe 3 years from now.

ruud wrote:

'everybody's going to war,but we dont know what were fighting for, you tell me its a worthy cause, no cause could be so worthy'
believe me nobody knows why its happenbing

"For every man who wants to rule the world, There'll be a man who just wants to be free, What do we learn but what should not be learnt? Too late to find a cure for this disease...
If God's on our side, then God is a joker, Asleep on the job, his children fall over, Running out through the door and straight to the sky, I don't want to die..."

Nerina pallot, I thought I'm the only one who likes that song of hers.

ruud wrote:

i have to go electiricty is in and out. i am not in a shelter i am not sturglgling for food.not yet. dont feel forme that way as i know you wont.but know that OTHERS ARE. know that we are all sufferiegn the pain of destroying our home by something we cannot control.but you can
you can change. youcan change lives, you can and oncew you believe it it will happen. you know that throught history when people come togehter things happen. youknow once voice matters as much as everything. as wevery vote counts your vpoice counts. raise your hands put them together

I'm glad you're not in a shelter. Tomorrow it'll be 21 days for me inside the shelter. I'm a prisoner within my own home, hope you'll never have to feel like that in some part of your life. I also think we can't really do anything besides sit here and wait till it will be over soon. Maybe its pessimism, or maybe it is just over-experience.

ruud wrote:

see youallsoon, thank you for reading ifyou did, thank you so much. take care and ill be with you all soon. thank you so much.
hey all thanks for you comments are replies. im glad people still care and havent put this behind them as many wars that seem to hav eno solution are forgotten about. im thankful everytime i get to get online and read what people have to say. If the situation if anything got worse i hope that ill be able to come on again soon enough to talk to you ll again, if not then its just a matter of time before ill write back to you all.

take care keep supporting the cause of world without this nonsense of a war. everyone knows we have a whole lot of other problems without the ones caused by violence.

Take care, I hope to hear from you soon, and I also hope this whole shit we'll be over ASAP.


Shiraz

sponger

I was watching Emile Lahoud, President of Lebanon, being interviewed on some news station tonight. Most of his speech really tugged at my heart. He talked about the golan heights, the west bank, gaza, and so on. I know that Israel really hasn't done its best return to the pre-1967 borders.

But, then he said something that just blew me away:

Emile Lahoud, President of Lebanon wrote:

I will not sign a peace agreement with Israel until I have the backing of all of the arab countries.

translation: "I would like to do what is necessary to bring peace to this region, but I am afraid to piss off the wrong people. I don't have the spine needed to bring a better life to my people."

If you live in Lebanon, then I am sorry you have such a spinless, gutless leader who is more worried about saving face with the arabs than protecting his own people.

Syria, Iran, and probably even Turkey are all using Lebanon as their tool for carrying out their ideological wet-dreams. Do you remember what happened in '82 when Israel invaded Lebanon? The PLO was left stranded by all the arab nations. Even Arafat himself was disgusted at how little the arab nations were willing to do when it came down to it.

The only reason Arafat decided to stay in power and continue the PLO resistance was because he had gotten so used to being a celebrity amongst his constituents. The PLO upper echelon lived like kings while palestinian refugees continued to live in sqallor. Lebanon is a tool of middle east.