The big day is tomorrow, and I have not idea what I am going to do!
Obama is my favorite pick, however, he is anti-coal, and I am from WV. This state lives off of coal. Most of my family would loose their jobs if Obama gets rid of the coal industary.
McCain...well, I just can't imagine another 4 years like the last 8. Enough said.
WTF do I do?
he's not anti coal, he is against new traditional coal plants. He is for clean coal as one of the new technology energy options. We have to find a better way to use coal cleanly. We have more coal than Saudi Arabia has oil, it's going to be a part of our energy plan in the future.
"Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)
I'm sorry but I can't except the argument that there is no difference between a McCain Presidency and an Obama Presidency. To me this is an utterly false and uninformed comment. It's show's an utter lack of understanding towards what these 2 candidates and parties represent if nominated.
does it show an utter lack of reading comprehension that i didn't make this claim of yours??
Now I understand that there must obviously be some glaring difference between your 3rd Party option (if you have one) and McCain and Obama. But that being said...Do you honestly believe that if elected that your 3rd Party candidate would have a chance in hell of getting any of their ideas passed?
NO.
if he were elected that would mean the majority agreed w/ him. if they see congress obstructing their will then they would be held accountable at their election, this is all theoretical, of course, as we just go for the 'slightly better of the 2' card
Want to know why? Because a 3rd Candidates have no representation in Government. What the fuck is the point of voting for someone, getting them elected, and then having them get each and every one of their ideas shot down because they have no party representation in government?
fuck party representation, it should be about ideas to move PEOPLE forward. you need to stop clinging to this team mentality
well, you're certainly entitled to your opinions and i know many share yours but not me. i think the only way to stop a cycle is to stop participating in it, it has to start w/ yourself.
if a girl on the side of the road in the rain needs a ride and i give it to her then i would be thought of as doing a good thing, if you believe in god i would have done good in his eyes. but, if i gave her the ride b/c i thought maybe she'd have sex w/ me or i thought i could get something from her am i still a nice guy? no, b/c of my intention. so if you pick the 'slightly better' of the 2 instead of someone you really believe in then your intention isn't truly for change, it's basically to be on the winning team for 4 years
And if guys like Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, and these other guys are running on something other than sheer EGO ans SPITE...which I doubt that they are...What the hell do they actually think they are going to acomplish if elected?
you should visit their websites and you would know. i've gone to obama's and mccains several times to read theirs, what, exactly, are you even forming your opinion on?
You see. I respect alot of these ideas coming from Nader, and Ron Paul and some of the other 3rd Party Candidates. But I believe they are doing nobody any good throwing their names on the ticket as a matter of spite.
wait, i thought they were only running on EGO and SPITE???? you respect that??? they are putting their names on the ticket to offer the people an actual choice. i'm sorry, but saying 'pick from these 2' is far from democracy. they put their names on the ticket b/c as long as we just let these 2 parties control the racket nothing will really ever get done other than foot dragging and favors for favors.
you were talking about representation, just allowing the democrats and republicans is far from representation
If they really want to get serious, and if YOU really want to get serious CHANGE and have a viable 3rd PARTY some prominence in this country, then you are going to have to PLAY THE GAME. You are going to have to get 3rd Party Candidates nominated on the STATE and LOCAL level. Get some representation in government before you run a 3rd party for President.
Matt Gonzalez was elected on the local level and almost beat the democratic mayor in SF, Nader has been leading change for decades, they have played the game and done a lot
Otherwise you are wasting your time, vote, and are just pissing in the wind.
and i see a vote for these 2 corporate parties and their candidates as the same.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
i guess he's still singing the same old sad, tired song- "obama isn't progressive ENOUGH, therefore i will write in "nader" and let my vote go down the drain, again." it's sung to the tune of "mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be democrats," but slower.
some ppl never change...
actually, i didn't have to write him in, he was on the ballot in 45 states, including mine.
does it really bother you that much that i don't support obama or the building of more nuclear power plants and all the lies and politic as usual??
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
he's not anti coal, he is against new traditional coal plants. He is for clean coal as one of the new technology energy options. We have to find a better way to use coal cleanly. We have more coal than Saudi Arabia has oil, it's going to be a part of our energy plan in the future.
actually on his site one of his energy solutions is coal to oil and clean coal
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
does it show an utter lack of reading comprehension that i didn't make this claim of yours??
if he were elected that would mean the majority agreed w/ him. if they see congress obstructing their will then they would be held accountable at their election, this is all theoretical, of course, as we just go for the 'slightly better of the 2' card
fuck party representation, it should be about ideas to move PEOPLE forward. you need to stop clinging to this team mentality
well, you're certainly entitled to your opinions and i know many share yours but not me. i think the only way to stop a cycle is to stop participating in it, it has to start w/ yourself.
if a girl on the side of the road in the rain needs a ride and i give it to her then i would be thought of as doing a good thing, if you believe in god i would have done good in his eyes. but, if i gave her the ride b/c i thought maybe she'd have sex w/ me or i thought i could get something from her am i still a nice guy? no, b/c of my intention. so if you pick the 'slightly better' of the 2 instead of someone you really believe in then your intention isn't truly for change, it's basically to be on the winning team for 4 years
you should visit their websites and you would know. i've gone to obama's and mccains several times to read theirs, what, exactly, are you even forming your opinion on?
wait, i thought they were only running on EGO and SPITE???? you respect that??? they are putting their names on the ticket to offer the people an actual choice. i'm sorry, but saying 'pick from these 2' is far from democracy. they put their names on the ticket b/c as long as we just let these 2 parties control the racket nothing will really ever get done other than foot dragging and favors for favors.
you were talking about representation, just allowing the democrats and republicans is far from representation
Matt Gonzalez was elected on the local level and almost beat the democratic mayor in SF, Nader has been leading change for decades, they have played the game and done a lot
and i see a vote for these 2 corporate parties and their candidates as the same.
nothing, gonzo1977????
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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he's not anti coal, he is against new traditional coal plants. He is for clean coal as one of the new technology energy options. We have to find a better way to use coal cleanly. We have more coal than Saudi Arabia has oil, it's going to be a part of our energy plan in the future.
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does it show an utter lack of reading comprehension that i didn't make this claim of yours??
if he were elected that would mean the majority agreed w/ him. if they see congress obstructing their will then they would be held accountable at their election, this is all theoretical, of course, as we just go for the 'slightly better of the 2' card
fuck party representation, it should be about ideas to move PEOPLE forward. you need to stop clinging to this team mentality
well, you're certainly entitled to your opinions and i know many share yours but not me. i think the only way to stop a cycle is to stop participating in it, it has to start w/ yourself.
if a girl on the side of the road in the rain needs a ride and i give it to her then i would be thought of as doing a good thing, if you believe in god i would have done good in his eyes. but, if i gave her the ride b/c i thought maybe she'd have sex w/ me or i thought i could get something from her am i still a nice guy? no, b/c of my intention. so if you pick the 'slightly better' of the 2 instead of someone you really believe in then your intention isn't truly for change, it's basically to be on the winning team for 4 years
you should visit their websites and you would know. i've gone to obama's and mccains several times to read theirs, what, exactly, are you even forming your opinion on?
wait, i thought they were only running on EGO and SPITE???? you respect that??? they are putting their names on the ticket to offer the people an actual choice. i'm sorry, but saying 'pick from these 2' is far from democracy. they put their names on the ticket b/c as long as we just let these 2 parties control the racket nothing will really ever get done other than foot dragging and favors for favors.
you were talking about representation, just allowing the democrats and republicans is far from representation
Matt Gonzalez was elected on the local level and almost beat the democratic mayor in SF, Nader has been leading change for decades, they have played the game and done a lot
and i see a vote for these 2 corporate parties and their candidates as the same.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
some ppl never change...
actually, i didn't have to write him in, he was on the ballot in 45 states, including mine.
does it really bother you that much that i don't support obama or the building of more nuclear power plants and all the lies and politic as usual??
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
actually on his site one of his energy solutions is coal to oil and clean coal
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
nothing, gonzo1977????
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way