Just out of curosity.....

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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Cree Nations wrote:
    Sorry man this is a little naive. It is safe to say that other than Britain, I dont think the great majority of the world 'appreciates' the US. I have seen many Americans travelling who purposely put Canadian flags on their backpacks because they dont want anyone knowing they are American, of course this isnt true for all Americans by any means. Too bad 51% screwed it for the other 49%

    why is it naive to ask others' opinions? :confused:
    to me, that is simply looking for more understanding from a broader perspective...a good thing.


    and i have *heard* of americans doing as you say...but where exactly have you seen americans doing such? i wouldn't even see the purpose anywhere in NA...although personally i see no *purpose* in it whatsoever. then again, i have no shame of my heritage or where i come from, and would never try and *hide* who i am. in fact, i far prefer others know during my travels...and see we americans are not all the pervasive stereotypes. anyway, in all my travels, in all the different countries i have visited...happily...i have never seen a fellow american 'pretend' to be canadian or anything else. sure, i've seen some americans make arses out of themselves abroad...but then again, i've seen many a nationality do the same. :p

    anyway, yes, this is NOT a high point for a love of americans by any stretch. i DO hope that with the current election more of the world realizes that most of america feels as they do, completely dissatisified with our current administration and thus hope for change. hopefully it is on the horzion...and for the better. :)
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Hey man, you said Nazis, and yet your signature is a quote from Mark Twain, and your favourite band is Pearl Jam. Therefore, I assume that was a tongue in cheek comment? :confused:

    lol, pseudo-nazis?

    Nazism is just a general idea of American Imperialism. Obviously Pearl Jam doesn't fit that mold ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Ahnimus wrote:

    Nazism is just a general idea of American Imperialism. Obviously Pearl Jam doesn't fit that mold ;)

    new rule...you can't make up definitions to existing terms.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    humanlight wrote:
    Never...anyone who loves PJ...is a friend to me!


    Haha, I feel the same way.
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  • Paint a Picture....
    Paint a Picture.... Posts: 88
    miller8966 wrote:
    why should i care what the rest of the worlds thinks of me?

    Is this highschool or something.

    Im afraid its this insular, self satisfied attitude that makes the rest of you guys look like half-wits to the rest of the world. U just seem to have so many miller8966's over there.
    Theres nothing wrong with being proud of your country, i would die for England, and on a wider scale my argumentative little brothers in Wales, Scotland and Ireland -) hehe, but theres a big difference between being proud of ur decorating, and breaking into next door and redecorating for them! thats called fascism.
    vision oOnly Greyyy
  • Paint a Picture....
    Paint a Picture.... Posts: 88
    T-shirt i saw in Seattle:

    "if u can read this, thank ur school teacher.
    if u can read this in English thank an American GI! "

    What?

    Maybe better like this:

    " if u can read this while standing in the richest country in the world, thank the ability to manufacture and sell arms, while turning the other cheek on your friends hardship untill the wars all but over"

    maybe a bit more humble and honest.

    But who needs humility man, this is the U-S-A!!
    vision oOnly Greyyy
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Paint a Picture.... wrote:
    T-shirt i saw in Seattle:

    "if u can read this, thank ur school teacher.
    if u can read this in English thank an American GI! "

    That is exactly the kind of shit that makes America the most hated country in the world.
  • Restless Soul
    Restless Soul Posts: 805
    humanlight wrote:
    I just feel so censored. I don't believe what our news channels say, god knows I don't believe our politicians, and am concerned that we are writting our own history. I mean we did win Vitantam, didin't we? I don't know anyone out of the country, so I thought this would be the perfect place to see how other average normal people felt about America.

    A friend of mine has just moved to New York from Britain and she says the news is wierd there - apparently news from "other countries" is actually just news from other states. Apparently they don't really cover news from other countries like in Britain. Over here we get news stories from Europe, middle east, asia and everywhere.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    America your head's too big
    Because America
    Your belly is too big.
    And I love you
    I just wish you'd stay where you is

    In America
    The land of the free, they said
    And of opportunity
    In a just and a truthful way.
    But where the president
    is never black, female or gay
    And until that day
    you've got nothing to say to me
    to help me believe

    In America
    it brought you the hamburger
    Well America you know where
    you can shove your hamburger
    And don't you wonder
    why in Estonia they say
    Hey you
    you big fat pig
    you fat pig
    you fat pig

    Steely blue eyes with no love in them
    scam the World
    And a humourless smile
    with no warmth within
    greets the world.
    And I
    I have got nothing
    to offer you
    No-no-no-no-no
    just this heart deep and true
    which you say you don't need

    See with your eyes
    touch with your hands
    please
    hear through your ears
    know in your soul
    please
    For haven't you me with you now?
    And I love you
    I love you
    I love you
    And I love you
    I love you
    I love you.
  • Paint a Picture....
    Paint a Picture.... Posts: 88
    Where have all the fascists gone? not letting this one drop so easy!
    vision oOnly Greyyy
  • Kushikushun
    Kushikushun Posts: 1,263
    Paint a Picture.... wrote:
    Where have all the fascists gone? not letting this one drop so easy!

    Huh? Not sure if I understand what you are saying, but we could invite jlew24asu to this thread. I am sure he would have some interesting stuff to say about this subject... :)
    Why not be mediocre and be the best at it that you can be?
  • disconnected
    disconnected Posts: 2,875
    I think the US nice and Bush is an c&^ks^&king assholle...
  • Paint a Picture....
    Paint a Picture.... Posts: 88
    Kushikushun wrote:
    Huh? Not sure if I understand what you are saying, but we could invite jlew24asu to this thread. I am sure he would have some interesting stuff to say about this subject... :)

    haha dont man i cant laugh anymore!!-)
    vision oOnly Greyyy
  • Paint a Picture....
    Paint a Picture.... Posts: 88
    Kushikushun wrote:
    Huh? Not sure if I understand what you are saying, but we could invite jlew24asu to this thread. I am sure he would have some interesting stuff to say about this subject... :)

    Oh yeah, and i just meant where are all the tub-thumping, holier than thou, zenophobic answers to the current debate, it seems to have gone quiet and i didnt wanna let it lie u know!
    vision oOnly Greyyy
  • Peter C
    Peter C Posts: 237
    I've been lucky enough to have visited the States over 20 times over the years and the people i've met have been nothing but fantastic. The women over there actually talk to me and love the English accent!!!
    London 1996 Cardiff 2000 Paris 2006 and London 2007.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    The United States is huge and I have only seen a small part viz. New York, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts and a very small part of Pennsylvania. It’s one of the most gorgeous countries I have ever seen, the parts I visited were so beautiful and there is so much more to see, I can’t wait to go back again. The people I met were all very, very friendly and hospitable but that’s logical because I hitchhiked and bastards and assholes just don’t pick up hitchhikers, nevertheless, I was surprised by how friendly Americans in general were even in NYC, supposedly a cold-hearted city, the people were willing to help us out.
    Unfortunately, the US also harbours ignorant people. People who have no idea what life is like in Europe and seem to think the US is the only civilized country in the world. People who claim to know more about my country and continent than I do. People who think people in Europe can’t get rich, we live in small houses, and we don’t have malls… You can tell they have never left the US, they have no idea what the world is like beyond the American borders… The Americans I met who did travel and had travelled were not like this, though. It’s sad to think that the cliché “the US is the greatest country in the world” is really some people’s mindset, well, it’s sad if they never visited Europe, Asia or Australia if they have and still think that than that’s just an honest opinion, other than that it’s very ignorant. These people give the US a bad name… that stereotype extreme patriotism and pride is just ridiculous and sad.
    But as I said even these people were very friendly and hospitable.
    I don’t agree with US politics but that won’t keep me from coming and visiting (well it might, who knows…) your lovely country. It was a bit weird, though; there was a completely different vibe, the general mindset, the cars, the stores, the roads, the buildings (nothing’s old!) … sometimes it felt very shallow and at other times I just wanted to buy a house there a live there…

    Damn, that’s quite a post, isn’t it?
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Being a very unpatriotic UKer, I've got few problems with individuals from the USA. But I do think one thing is weird, that collectivist spirit you guys have.

    The original poster demonstrated it: 'What do you guys think of the USA?' you said, as if the answer is immensely important to you as an individual. Why does it worry you guys what individuals think about a country?

    I think it's weird that you speak of loving America (or the opposite).

    I think it's weird that I saw an episode of Nanny 911 on Sky, and there was a family with three American flags attached to their house and one in their backyard. Their oldest kid wore a T Shirt with an American flag on it most days, and they had framed pictures on their walls with flags on them.

    I love certain USAers. Everyone on the Pit is awesome, but I find this pretty weird. If someone said they thought the UK is a crock of shit, I wouldn't be personally offended. It's only a slab of land surrounded by some water. It certainly isn't my choicest holiday destination.

    My 2p.
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    That is exactly the kind of shit that makes America the most hated country in the world.

    lol how about england...i mean thats a pretty shitty country.

    You cant even make decisions for yourselfs, you just follow whatever we tell you to do.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    lol how about england...i mean thats a pretty shitty country.

    You cant even make decisions for yourselfs, you just follow whatever we tell you to do.

    True, to a large extent.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Being a very unpatriotic UKer, I've got few problems with individuals from the USA. But I do think one thing is weird, that collectivist spirit you guys have.

    The original poster demonstrated it: 'What do you guys think of the USA?' you said, as if the answer is immensely important to you as an individual. Why does it worry you guys what individuals think about a country?

    I think it's weird that you speak of loving America (or the opposite).

    I think it's weird that I saw an episode of Nanny 911 on Sky, and there was a family with three American flags attached to their house and one in their backyard. Their oldest kid wore a T Shirt with an American flag on it most days, and they had framed pictures on their walls with flags on them.

    I love certain USAers. Everyone on the Pit is awesome, but I find this pretty weird. If someone said they thought the UK is a crock of shit, I wouldn't be personally offended. It's only a slab of land surrounded by some water. It certainly isn't my choicest holiday destination.

    My 2p.

    Quality! I agree 100%. The flag business is something I never understood. Most houses in the states have a flag flying outside. What the fuck is that about?

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