6 'Death Squad' Members Caught in Iraq

Cosmo

PaperPlates wrote:

The enemy of my enemy, is my friend.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Usama bin Laden was the enemy of my enemy, the Soviet Union. Saddam Hussein was the enemy of my enemy, the fundamentalist Shi'ite state of Iran.
Therefore, Usama bin laden and Saddam Hussein are my friends.
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That makes sense.

PaperPlates

Cosmo wrote:

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Usama bin Laden was the enemy of my enemy, the Soviet Union. Saddam Hussein was the enemy of my enemy, the fundamentalist Shi'ite state of Iran.
Therefore, Usama bin laden and Saddam Hussein are my friends.
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That makes sense.

The enemy of my friends enemy, is an enemy of my enemies friends.........................................................................................................................


im lost.

mtilden

PaperPlates wrote:

Glad you think so. I feel safe knowing our security is in your hands.

Well, if you want to dive under your desk for every petty thug that comes along that's your business.

Cosmo

PaperPlates wrote:

Cool, since they are harmless, maybe you can store them all at your place.

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Why should I? They are useless.
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Besides, you are the one that feared Iraq, not me. I knew they were a piece of shit military that would toss up the white flag as soon as someone pointed a gun at them. I remember the 1991 Gulf War... I remember their military strategy. Hell, they were stalemated by fucking Iran. Iran, whose army rides horses and use swords.
There is no fucking way they were able to pull it off under the noses of our fighter pilots and air crews and intelligence agents. To believe that would onlty mean that I place more credibility to the Iraqis, than our military. and I do not believe that one bit.

Cosmo

PaperPlates wrote:

The enemy of my friends enemy, is an enemy of my enemies friends.........................................................................................................................


im lost.

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That's probably because you are trying to defend a position that basically says that the Iraqi military was run by brilliant strategists and tacticians and/or that Saddam Hussein was was brilliant evil genius.
Whereas, I am stating that the Iraqi military is a piece of shit and would probably lose a war against our Special Olympics Team and that Saddam Hussein was a brutal buffoon that spewed a bunch of bullshit to keep Iran at bay.

PaperPlates

Cosmo wrote:

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Why should I? They are useless.
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Besides, you are the one that feared Iraq, not me. I knew they were a piece of shit military that would toss up the white flag as soon as someone pointed a gun at them. I remember the 1991 Gulf War... I remember their military strategy. Hell, they were stalemated by fucking Iran. Iran, whose army rides horses and use swords.
There is no fucking way they were able to pull it off under the noses of our fighter pilots and air crews and intelligence agents. To believe that would onlty mean that I place more credibility to the Iraqis, than our military. and I do not believe that one bit.

I dont nor did I fear Iraq. Because I agree with the policy of "lets fight them there, rather than here. And if they ever DO come here, they'd better think twice about stopping at my house.


Do you really think Iran's army rides horses and is limited to swords? You worded as if thats still the case.

And I dont think the goons in charge of these ass backwards countries are capable of doing it either. They can barely even keep their own countries going. But I do think that there are some other nations working behind the scenes who are and were capapble, and have plenty of motive.

mtilden

PaperPlates wrote:

I dont nor did I fear Iraq. Because I agree with the policy of "lets fight them there, rather than here. And if they ever DO come here, they'd better think twice about stopping at my house.

That's the point you're missing. We never would have had to fight them over here. This whole operation was a waste of lives, time, and resources.

PaperPlates

mtilden wrote:

That's the point you're missing. We never would have had to fight them over here. This whole operation was a waste of lives, time, and resources.

The point you're missing is that I dont agree with your basic perception of the situation. You keep believing it. Ill keep voting and winning elections trying to ensure that we NEVER have to fight them over here.

Cosmo

PaperPlates wrote:

I dont nor did I fear Iraq. Because I agree with the policy of "lets fight them there, rather than here. And if they ever DO come here, they'd better think twice about stopping at my house.


Do you really think Iran's army rides horses and is limited to swords? You worded as if thats still the case.

And I dont think the goons in charge of these ass backwards countries are capable of doing it either. They can barely even keep their own countries going. But I do think that there are some other nations working behind the scenes who are and were capapble, and have plenty of motive.

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Do you remember 1985? That was around the time that the 'Human Wave' was big at our college football games.
It was also about the same time that the 'Human Wave' in the Iran/Iraq war took place when Iranian military leaders ordered frontal assaults into Iraqi machine gun and armoured positions. These Human Wavers had machetes and fixed bayonets on empty rifles. The strategy was, "Well... they can't kill 'em all... some will get through". Guess what? They didn't get through. You cannot charge a machine gun nest on a horse and armed with a machete... even I know that. Needless to say, they got their asses kicked.
Yet... the Iran/Iraq war ended in a tie. This is the military that can outsmart OUR military? NO FUCKING WAY.
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And that "Let's fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here" is a bunch of bulshit. It's more like, "Let's train them how to fight us there, so our kids will have to deal with all of the new fucking recruits we are creating". Brilliant fucking strategy... one that I would suppose would come from a bunch of fucking suit wearing civilian politicians with no real wartime experience.

mtilden

PaperPlates wrote:

The point you're missing is that I dont agree with your basic perception of the situation. You keep believing it. Ill keep voting and winning elections trying to ensure that we NEVER have to fight them over here.

If we keep going after the wrong people we will have to fight someone over here.

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

Neither do I. They couldnt develop one on their own thats for sure. But Nukes are not the only WMD out there. Unfortunately, there are many many many weapons of Terrible destruction out there, all for the highest bidder.

i thought bush said they were 6 months away from [developing] a nuke and "I don't know what more evidence we need." ?

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

Thats good to know?? <----insert emoticon scratching head.

Enlighten me with your in depth knowledge of the illegal weapons black market trade.

well i know joe wilson's wife worked for a cia front company that tracked illegal wmd transactions that was compromised when she was outed

El_Kabong

Cosmo wrote:

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I know they HAD chemical weapons... in 1984. WE sold them to Iraq. We wanted Iraq (Saddam Hussein) to use them in the 8 year stalemate with Iran. We hated Iran more than Iraq (just like the hated the Soviets more than the Mujahadin (Bin Laden and his crew).

even tho we had been arming Iran at the same time using Israel as the middleman and then use the illegal money to illegally fund the contras despite congress saying it was illegal...nice little circle we got there

polaris

PaperPlates wrote:

Every little bit helps. Good thing we arent as inhumane as they are, or these dipshits would have been publicly beheaded already.

yeah the use of DU and white phospherous weapons is real humane ...

PaperPlates

You've said all this repeatedly. We know your view on things. Things arent as black and white as you like to make them.

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

You've said all this repeatedly. We know your view on things. Things arent as black and white as you like to make them.

such as?

PaperPlates

El_Kabong wrote:

such as?

Such as what?> Do you have tourettes or something?

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

Such as what?> Do you have tourettes or something?

i didn't udnerstand what i had said in the post you quoted saying 'Things arent as black and white as you like to make them.' i was asking you what part of my reply that pertained to. how asking 'such as?' equates to having tourettes is beyond me