The illegal immigration question no one will ask

jlew24asu

I think every person who is here illegally should have a chance to "apply" (or whatever you want to call it) for a path to citizenship. sending everyone back because they wanted a better life is wrong and not the american way.

if you want to live here you should plan by the same rules as everyone else. pay taxes and obey the laws and we're cool.

binauralonthecape

jlew24asu wrote:

I think every person who is here illegally should have a chance to "apply" (or whatever you want to call it) for a path to citizenship. sending everyone back because they wanted a better life is wrong and not the american way.

if you want to live here you should plan by the same rules as everyone else. pay taxes and obey the laws and we're cool.

yeah, but dont you remember, thats amnesty, we've already done that (in "88 i think) and its didnt work, we need a wall, plain and simple, thats where it starts, and then more strict employer laws, and we go from there...

jlew24asu

binauralonthecape wrote:

yeah, but dont you remember, thats amnesty, we've already done that (in "88 i think) and its didnt work, we need a wall, plain and simple, thats where it starts, and then more strict employer laws, and we go from there...

I'm no expert here and I dont have a real solution to this problem but yes a wall would be a great start. and I dont want amnesty but I dont want to send them home either. I think there needs to be a new out of the box type strategy. I honestly believe the high majority of illegals are here because they want a better life. there needs to be a way to allow them that and at the same time not compromise our security and sovereignty.

prytocorduroy

Jimmydean55 wrote:

Well, technically, we're all illegal immigrants. Except Indians.

No that's not true. If you are born on American soil you are an American citizen, so the majority of us that are living here are not illegal.

melodious

signing on....

Jimmydean55

danny72688 wrote:

No that's not true. If you are born on American soil you are an American citizen, so the majority of us that are living here are not illegal.

But weren't the people who made that a law illegal immigrants??

prytocorduroy

Jimmydean55 wrote:

But weren't the people who made that a law illegal immigrants??

Probably. But the concept makes sense so I don't know if I'd consider them illegal (unless they were literally the ones who killed the Native Americans and stole their land and not the children of those people).

jlew24asu

Jimmydean55 wrote:

But weren't the people who made that a law illegal immigrants??

no. and if they were how is that relevant? borders of countries have been changing since the beginning of mankind. america become a country in 1776, end of story. people who were born in America are american citizens. same goes for the people who come here and follow the path to citizenship.

Jimmydean55

jlew24asu wrote:

no. and if they were how is that relevant? borders of countries have been changing since the beginning of mankind. america become a country in 1776, end of story. people who were born in America are american citizens. same goes for the people who come here and follow the path to citizenship.

By no means am I saying you're wrong. I understand that when our founding fathers came here, there were no laws concerning citizenship, as there are now.

I'm just pointing out the fact that *TECHNICALLY*, we're all illegal immigrants. Including the guys who wrote the 14th amendment.

hrd2imgn

the native americans did not believe in the concept of owning the land, so if no one owned it and the early settlers/explorers/murderers came here it was not illegal. just what they did to the native people was immoral.

I was born in the USA I am not illegal
My parents were born in the USA they are not illegal
my grandparents were born in the USA, they are not illegal
my Greats were born in Eastern Euope, they immigrated, and attained citizenship the legal way

I agree with the prior post, no candidate has the Stones to answer the question, that is why it is never asked.

Jimmydean55

hrd2imgn wrote:

the native americans did not believe in the concept of owning the land, so if no one owned it and the early settlers/explorers/murderers came here it was not illegal. just what they did to the native people was immoral.

Very true. And, I just noticed you're in Joliet. I'm like, 10 minutes away from you, haha.

melodious

you are squabbling over the wrong principle, what should be clearly defined for illegal or uninvited immigrants or even non documented is the term document...

i can't understand why this one little term isn't broken down and really chronicled; i guess that's just me...

thanks for letting me read...

not wannaB interference...

callen

godpt3 wrote:

the solution is to strictly enforce the current employer regulations regarding illegal immigrants. And then back that up with fines so large and painful that no company will touch an illegal with a 10-foot pole.

Yep...its that simple...to blame the illegals is ignorant.....its the demand.