It seems like everyone comes into the 9/11 truth movement either thru In Plane Site/Loose Change or by http://www.Infowars.com. for myself it was discovering Alex Jones in Nov of 2001. a few years later I found http://www.oilempire.us, david ray griffin and michael ruppert - all of whom i find very sensible, and i agree with their point that 9/11 truth is being discredited by either phony theorists or nutcases whose stupid views are being exploited to make all 9/11 truth people look bad.
to sum up.... fuck In plane site. fuck loose change. fuck http://www.prisonplanet.com. fuck all the stupid shit. and most of all, fuck the entire bush administration.
"David Ray Griffin has done admirable and painstaking research in reviewing the mysteries surrounding the 9-11 attacks. It is the most persuasive argument I have seen for further investigation of the Bush administration's relationship to that historic and troubling event." -- Howard Zinn
I've read a few fragments of David Ray Griffin's new book, it certainly raises a few questions...
Definitely worth reading imo, even the people who think the official version is true.
Whatever....there are other threads dealing with the crackpots on 911 so I won't go back over it all.
The entire video, which I saw on TV one night while trying to sell me something like a membership to their club really goes off the deep end. This guy is an idiot.
The flash? Who cares. Probably glass breaking, or electrical equipment in the cockpit exloding, or some other thing caused by impact. I don't care because it is just too unrealistic to go there with all the other actual facts out there. Exactly what additional damage did that little flash cause anyway that would be so devastating? Wasn't what happened bad enough?
This guy also believes there was no plane at the Pentagon. If there was no WTC video to prove otherwise, he would think the same there too. No passengers killed I guess either huh.
He probably believes the Penn plane also was shot down because the passengers took over the plane and the govt couldn't let that happen.
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This guy also believes there was no plane at the Pentagon. If there was no WTC video to prove otherwise, he would think the same there too. No passengers killed I guess either huh.
there are a few videos of the pentagon being hit, they just refuse to release them...yet they let us watch the towers get hit repeatedly...but let's see what rummy has to say:
Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.
He probably believes the Penn plane also was shot down because the passengers took over the plane and the govt couldn't let that happen.
didn't rummy say it was shot down?
"I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be." http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20041223-secdef1921.html
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.
i saw a poll the other day...11% of the american population believe the gov't MAY have something to do with the twin towers coming down. any idea which side of the aisle that 11% is from?? also 11% also believe elvis is still alive...probably the same people.
Quite a lot of people in the cabinet in the houses of parliament don't believe the offical version, do they all believe elvis is alive too?
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Mike Snyder, spokesman of NORAD told The Boston Globe that when planes get hijacked, it is taken seriously and they send fighter planes to guide the hijacked planes back. When the hijackers disobey, the fighters should take it down with a rocket (if nothing else seems to work)
The question is why didn’t this happen with flight 11? Not even an attempt, which is a routine action, that happens more than a hundred times a year.
Even though no one knew it was going to hit the tower, at least an attempt should have been made.
But what about flight UA175, which left Boston at 8.14 am, right about when FAA started to realize flight 11 was hijacked (at 8.21 the stewards confirmed that the plane was hijacked)? At 8.42 all radio contact was lost and the plane left its course (same as what happen with flight 11). NORAD was supposedly informed around 8.43 am. Flight 11 hit the tower at 8.46.
Nothing happened, 9.03 am flight 175 was going in direction of the WTC.
But even more strange is how 35 minutes later a hijacked plane was able to hit the pentagon...
No precedence for such action in the US. That's all I'm saying. You don't just up and scramble fighter jets to blow up civilian airliners you think/know are hijacked. If anything, NORAD probably thought they were just going to make demands for prisoners to be freed and they'd land in Syria or something. Not in a million years did they think they'd use the planes as self-propelled bombs.
Gimme a break.
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Crazy shit. What's interesting is all the post 9/11 interviews and witness statements on film that were quickly swept under the rug. Like the Fox reporter saying he saw the second plane...and it was not a commercial flight. And the Firefighters who were saying bombs were going off...like a demolition of a building.
And of course there is the Pentagon and all the photo's w/o a trace of a plane in sight...and a building that collapsed 10 min. after the 'crash'.
Bush saying..."I watched on TV as the first plane hit the towers". Umm...you were in a school room...reading to kids...and there was never EVER any footage of the first plane hitting the towers on tv.
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I've read a few fragments of David Ray Griffin's new book, it certainly raises a few questions...
Definitely worth reading imo, even the people who think the official version is true.
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The entire video, which I saw on TV one night while trying to sell me something like a membership to their club really goes off the deep end. This guy is an idiot.
The flash? Who cares. Probably glass breaking, or electrical equipment in the cockpit exloding, or some other thing caused by impact. I don't care because it is just too unrealistic to go there with all the other actual facts out there. Exactly what additional damage did that little flash cause anyway that would be so devastating? Wasn't what happened bad enough?
This guy also believes there was no plane at the Pentagon. If there was no WTC video to prove otherwise, he would think the same there too. No passengers killed I guess either huh.
He probably believes the Penn plane also was shot down because the passengers took over the plane and the govt couldn't let that happen.
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It is all about the events, news coverage, 911 commission etc.
there are a few videos of the pentagon being hit, they just refuse to release them...yet they let us watch the towers get hit repeatedly...but let's see what rummy has to say:
Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html
didn't rummy say it was shot down?
"I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be."
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20041223-secdef1921.html
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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Quite a lot of people in the cabinet in the houses of parliament don't believe the offical version, do they all believe elvis is alive too?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Do you really think that the goverment didn't had anything to do with it? Do you really believe the official version? How is that possible?
No precedence for such action in the US. That's all I'm saying. You don't just up and scramble fighter jets to blow up civilian airliners you think/know are hijacked. If anything, NORAD probably thought they were just going to make demands for prisoners to be freed and they'd land in Syria or something. Not in a million years did they think they'd use the planes as self-propelled bombs.
Gimme a break.
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Crazy shit. What's interesting is all the post 9/11 interviews and witness statements on film that were quickly swept under the rug. Like the Fox reporter saying he saw the second plane...and it was not a commercial flight. And the Firefighters who were saying bombs were going off...like a demolition of a building.
And of course there is the Pentagon and all the photo's w/o a trace of a plane in sight...and a building that collapsed 10 min. after the 'crash'.
Bush saying..."I watched on TV as the first plane hit the towers". Umm...you were in a school room...reading to kids...and there was never EVER any footage of the first plane hitting the towers on tv.
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