9-11 in Plane Site

GoldenWords

Has any one seen this video?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5239334224660559722&q=911+plane+site

Other extremely disturbing segments of this video are the clear, slow motion shots of the second plane going into the towers which show a flash right before the nose of the plane hits the building and a pod attached to the bottom of the plane. This strange flash is clearly recorded from four different angles from four different cameras. While there is only one known piece of film showing the first plane hitting the first tower, in slow motion one can clearly see - as with the second plane - a flash from the nose section right before impact. What caused this?

GoldenWords

Or this one> ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change

mca47

i had never seen either one.
i see they are both pretty long...
is it worth the hour and a half?

GoldenWords

You got to ask --- if the jet fuel ignites on impact -- and you see it spewed explode outward on the other side -- being the law of physics and all ---- what would cause the steel frame to weaken and collaspe?

It is very interesting and asks some very important questions I have had since 2001.

None of it makes sense. Not the way the Federal Goverment wants us to believe it happened.

Everyone in the videos accumilated during the day --- talk about explosions coming from within the building. You can see some of the sparks, and see the other secondary explosions.

It is scary --- all over again --- from a different perspective.

brainofPJ

yawn

brianjd

GoldenWords wrote:

You got to ask --- if the jet fuel ignites on impact -- and you see it spewed explode outward on the other side -- being the law of physics and all ---- what would cause the steel frame to weaken and collaspe?

It is very interesting and asks some very important questions I have had since 2001.

None of it makes sense. Not the way the Federal Goverment wants us to believe it happened.

Everyone in the videos accumilated during the day --- talk about explosions coming from within the building. You can see some of the sparks, and see the other secondary explosions.

It is scary --- all over again --- from a different perspective.

The central supporting beams melted from the heat of the fire because they were not properly insulated for this kind of fire.

mca47

I just watched the first one. Pretty interesting.

I've seen a lot of the 9-11 conspiracy websites before...this is a pretty good documentary.

jeffbr

GoldenWords wrote:

Or this one> ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change

LOL. Good one. Here's another good one:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

GoldenWords

mca47 wrote:

I just watched the first one. Pretty interesting.

I've seen a lot of the 9-11 conspiracy websites before...this is a pretty good documentary.

There are some discrepincies found in the second one......but still interesting. Just found another one that is more journalistic in approach.

What does NOT make sense to me -- is all the fires -- if the jet fuel ignited on impact.
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September 11th Revisited is perhaps the most riveting film ever made about the destruction of the World Trade Center. This is a powerful ... all » documentary which features eyewitness accounts and archived news footage that was shot on September 11, 2001 but never replayed on television. Featuring interviews with eyewitnesses & firefighters, along with expert analysis by Professor Steven E. Jones, Professor David Ray Griffin, MIT Engineer Jeffrey King, and Professor James H. Fetzer. This film provides stunning evidence that explosives were used in the complete demolition of the WTC Twin Towers and WTC Building 7.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4194796183168750014&q=september+11th

GoldenWords

It is hard to tell what is what any more.

I found so many interesting questions asked in the video's. I learned a great deal about some things.

* I didn't know that President Bush's little brother was security at the Twin Towers and Boston International.
* The Twin Towers was recently sold to a private investor. The person who owned Tower 7 -- got the lease to Tower 1 and 2.
* Tower 7 was definatly a demolition job - admitted to by the owner.
* There was massive drills in the weeks leading up to 9/11 and then the security was called off.
* In the video's -- tons of people report hearing explosions going off in the building prior to the planes stricking them -- and leading up to the fall of both buildings.
* That many of the witnesses at the scene including reporters stated the plane looked like a miltary cargo plane.
* That black smoke is an indication of a low tempeture fire - that is at the end of burning itself out.
* Where was the 7 tons of wreckage in Philediphia? All I saw was a hole in the ground. What happened to the wreckage?
*How several passports of the supposed hijackers mysteriously survived the twin towers and pentagon -- but the black boxes were destroyed.
* How --- two weeks prior to 9-11 -- plans were already waiting for the signature of the President -- for the invasion of Iraqi?
* How there were miniture explosions prior to the implosion of both buildings that followed a downward spiral as the buildings came down.
*How much damage was done in the lobby -- just from the impact of the planes -- 80 stories high.
* How witnesses reported hearing explosions in the basement just prior to impact and afterwards.


So many questions.
Who to believe?
Of course -- our Goverment has it all under control -- and chasing after a rag tag team of vagabonds hiding out in caves in some poor country overseas.

Thank God --- our borders are safe and we can all sleep safe and sound tonight knowing the Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines are out and about in the world doing their job.

God Bless America.

Sincerely,
DKing

The Illinoisemakers

If all your ideas about the world trade centers coming down being an inside job are true, why has there never been any talk or witness' who saw people drilling holes all over the buildings and all the wires and demo people that would certianly be all over the place to setup a job that big? Or where was the surveillance video from the trade centers of the people who were all over that building getting it ready for a controlled demolition? Why are people so quick to jump over these huge questions? It makes no sense.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

back by popular demand....

the world trade center was an inside job.....

and this is a video of the guy who piloted the first plane....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJIMbBcZgwc

monkey spanker

i saw a poll the other day...11% of the american population believe the gov't MAY have something to do with the twin towers coming down. any idea which side of the aisle that 11% is from?? also 11% also believe elvis is still alive...probably the same people.

El_Kabong

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

If all your ideas about the world trade centers coming down being an inside job are true, why has there never been any talk or witness' who saw people drilling holes all over the buildings and all the wires and demo people that would certianly be all over the place to setup a job that big? Or where was the surveillance video from the trade centers of the people who were all over that building getting it ready for a controlled demolition? Why are people so quick to jump over these huge questions? It makes no sense.

on sept 8 and 9 the power was shut off on floors 48 and up, meaning the security cameras and such were off as well as the port authority performed a cabling upgrade. 9/8-9 was the weekend, as well.

i would really like to believe the official story, too...but things don't add up like how no jets were scrambled until after the pentagon was hit...some of these planes were KNOWN to be hijacked for over an hour...including a long time after the first plane hit. why did it take NORAD, the military, anyone to get any jets up? i guess it couldn't have anything to do w/ 2 months before 9/11 the power to make these calls were taken out of NORAD's and the military's hands and given to rummy, who gave it to cheney, who waited until right before the pentagon was hit to make a decision <and shouldn't bush have been the one doing htat, or at the very least consulted???>

you want to believe that KNOWN hijacked plane was able to fly through a no fly-zone in dc, turn around, come back and hit the pentagon? how far away from dc to it turn around? it was known to be hijacked for like an hour...

Collin

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJIMbBcZgwc

I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
Mitch Hedberg

lalalalaaaaaaaa

GoldenWords wrote:

Tower 7 was definatly a demolition job - admitted to by the owner.

Tower 7 collapsed because a huge part of one of the other buildings fell into it, and caused significant damage to the lower floors. It burned for a few hours before it collapsed.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/wtc/wtc7_2.jpg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6uFNBpjZCI4

I don't wanna go through everyone's questions here again, but you have got to start accepting reality. We were attacked by terrorists due to our policies in the Middle East. We were attacked for the same reasons in 1993, in 1998, and in 2000. We have to start working on changing those policies, and stop trying to explain mysterious flashes of light. If we don't change these policies, we will be attacked again. You can count on it. I'm not trying to play on anyone's fears or anything (I'll leave that to the government), but this is reality.

IwasBit10

After watching this, I'm not convinced. Conspiracists try to get the public to believe that the government is hiding something or that they are manipulating facts. Is this guy not doing the same thing? He takes all the evidence he can find in support of his claims and lumps them into an hour and a half documentary. For every person saying it was a missile at the Pentagon, there is a person saying it was a 737. But that wouldn't go into his film. Or the woman yelling, "That was not American Airlines. That was not American Airlines," while he's trying to persuade that the 2nd plane into the WTC may have been a government plane. That woman was a mile away and could not possible decipher what kind of aircraft that was and she's yelling gibberish cause she's freaking out, and this guy claims this as evidence. Why were regular civilians calling loved ones from the plane just before it went into the building? And they were saying their plane had been hijacked. All these news reports are from right after the attack, and nobody knew what was going on and this is before much evidence had been found. There is much more in this video that could be refuted, but I don't have time.

Also, planes being flown into buildings like this had never happened before. Years after, we've had a chance to digest the events and people create their own claims. But people throwing out panicked claims minutes after the attacks just can't be used as good evidence. So much is going through their minds, they aren't just focusing on what kind of plane it was or anything like that.

Could the flash have been cause by a steel airliner going hundreds of MPH colliding with another piece of steel in the form if the WTC? That's what I'm thinking and he doesn't have clear and concise video evidence either way.

Read this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

MrBrian

Saturnal wrote:

I don't wanna go through everyone's questions here again, but you have got to start accepting reality. We were attacked by terrorists due to our policies in the Middle East. .

But was it allowed to happen is the big question, america needed it to do what it wanted in the mid east, get attacked then attack everyone else.

I feel that both israel and america had a hand in allowing it, I'm not interested in talking about bombs in the towers or rockets whatever, my concenr is with how could something like this not of been stopped unless it had a green light from people in the government.

Remember getting people scared is the best way to get them to follow you.

Collin

Mike Snyder, spokesman of NORAD told The Boston Globe that when planes get hijacked, it is taken seriously and they send fighter planes to guide the hijacked planes back. When the hijackers disobey, the fighters should take it down with a rocket (if nothing else seems to work)
The question is why didn’t this happen with flight 11? Not even an attempt, which is a routine action, that happens more than a hundred times a year.
Even though no one knew it was going to hit the tower, at least an attempt should have been made.
But what about flight UA175, which left Boston at 8.14 am, right about when FAA started to realize flight 11 was hijacked (at 8.21 the stewards confirmed that the plane was hijacked)? At 8.42 all radio contact was lost and the plane left its course (same as what happen with flight 11). NORAD was supposedly informed around 8.43 am. Flight 11 hit the tower at 8.46.
Nothing happened, 9.03 am flight 175 was going in direction of the WTC.

But even more strange is how 35 minutes later a hijacked plane was able to hit the pentagon...

lalalalaaaaaaaa

MrBrian wrote:

how could something like this not of been stopped unless it had a green light from people in the government?

Incompetence and bad communication. There are some good documentaries out there that clearly show this (the history channel recently aired one). The 9/11 comission hearings show this. Just listen to the timeline of conversations between all the people in charge of air traffic. Information wasn't passed to the right people quickly enough and accurately enough to stop what was happening. They were still searching for flight 11 long after it crashed. They didn't know what was going on.

And on top of all that, so what if the government "allowed it to happen"? Would it really change your view of it? It wouldn't make a bit of difference to me. I already know the government is shitty, and I don't need one more atrocious story to convince me. Nothing that's been brought up in this discussion changes what we have to do now to ensure we won't be attacked again.

humanlight

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

If all your ideas about the world trade centers coming down being an inside job are true, .

he he he, you said "inside job" !!!!!!!