Why what some of you say leads to Iran

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  • the facethe face Posts: 192
    enharmonic wrote:
    It is clear that you believe that the Jews should get a free pass for the evil that they themselves have perpetrated in the world, so having a conversation with you about it will always be one-sided, and I do not participate in one-sided conversations. I am speaking directly to the universal principles of karma. Karma is ancestral. Attonement for the worngs falls under that premise.

    If you're incapable of seeing past the pitiful way that the Jews have conducted themselves since the holocaust, that is understandable. You're certainly not alone. What goes around, comes around. treat people inhumanly, and you have no excuse when you or your children, or your children's children are treated inhumanly in return. It's all part of a cycle much larger than the Jews and their problems.

    this board is scary. what about pearl jam, a peace loving band, brings out so many nazis? frigthening.
  • the facethe face Posts: 192
    The slave trade was not relegated to any one religion or idealogy.....there were plenty of good Christian slave traders too.

    dont forget the arabs who were more than happy to deliver black african slaves to their largely christian european masters
  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    the face wrote:
    this board is scary. what about pearl jam, a peace loving band, brings out so many nazis? frigthening.
    How many times are you going to use this line? Do you actually have anything productive to say or do you just go around calling people names and making broad generalizations?

    Oh, and I guess you're going going to call me an anti-semite now.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    qtegirl wrote:
    How many times are you going to use this line? Do you actually have anything productive to say or do you just go around calling people names and making broad generalizations?

    Oh, and I guess you're going going to call me an anti-semite now.

    you better watch out...if a person speaks against or disagrees with the actions and/or policies of israel, that person is labeled a nazi...

    it's sad really...
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    yosi wrote:
    I can't believe some of the replies in this thread. They are absolutely disgusting. I hope this thread gets locked. I never imagined how many people on this site were Nazi apologists.

    In the U.S. we call them 'liberals'. They love killing babies and setting child molesters free. They are scum.

    Merry Christmas! ;)
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    69charger wrote:
    In the U.S. we call them 'liberals'. They love killing babies and setting child molesters free. They are scum.

    Merry Christmas! ;)

    I bet you can't define the term "liberal"...oh yeah..a real definition, tree-hugger won't count, cartman...
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    I don't want to take sides here, but.....

    Why is it that whenever a discussion about Isreal comes up, conservatives suddenly become the Politically Correct crowd?
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    inmytree wrote:
    I bet you can't define the term "liberal"...oh yeah..a real definition, tree-hugger won't count, cartman...

    Tree hugger is just one part of my definition of 'liberal'.

    BTW yes, I do hate hippies as much as Cartman. :)
  • dayandayan Posts: 475
    qtegirl wrote:
    How many times are you going to use this line? Do you actually have anything productive to say or do you just go around calling people names and making broad generalizations?

    Oh, and I guess you're going going to call me an anti-semite now.

    While I don't subscribe to what "the face" is saying, I find it amusing that when he comes on the train and makes broad generalizations about people here being nazis everyone gets all up in arms, but when other people on the train make broad generalizations about Israelis being nazis almost no one has any complaints.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    dayan wrote:
    While I don't subscribe to what "the face" is saying, I find it amusing that when he comes on the train and makes broad generalizations about people here being nazis everyone gets all up in arms, but when other people on the train make broad generalizations about Israelis being nazis almost no one has any complaints.

    I think because the face is making personal attacks and that's all he can come up with.... my opinion.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    redrock wrote:
    I think because the face is making personal attacks and that's all he can come up with.... my opinion.

    many liberals do the exact same thing on this board....i support the Face!
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • dayandayan Posts: 475
    redrock wrote:
    I think because the face is making personal attacks and that's all he can come up with.... my opinion.

    but i don't see the difference. why is it ok to call Israelis nazis but not other people. To be clear I don't think it is right to call anyone a nazi because the nazis, for me, represent the pinnacle of human depravity, and we should not diminish the horror of what they actually were by bandying around the name. nevertheless, why are you not equally outraged when people throw the term nazi at Israel? just because there isn't an Israeli on this thread? that seems kind of inconsistent.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    dayan wrote:
    but i don't see the difference. why is it ok to call Israelis nazis but not other people. To be clear I don't think it is right to call anyone a nazi because the nazis, for me, represent the pinnacle of human depravity, and we should not diminish the horror of what they actually were by bandying around the name. nevertheless, why are you not equally outraged when people throw the term nazi at Israel? just because there isn't an Israeli on this thread? that seems kind of inconsistent.

    Dayan... no one on this thread called an israeli nazi. This whole nazi name calling thing started with a post from Yosi calling a non-israeli person a nazi...... and I think Yosi chose his insult carefully. We all know what the nazi's did, my mother lived under the occupation, I had family in concentration camps (not jews but romany) and we all understand the vileness of the insult. That's why people being called nazi are up in arms.....
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    redrock wrote:
    Dayan... no one on this thread called an israeli nazi. This whole nazi name calling thing started with a post from Yosi calling a non-israeli person a nazi...... and I think Yosi chose his insult carefully. We all know what the nazi's did, my mother lived under the occupation, I had family in concentration camps (not jews but romany) and we all understand the vileness of the insult. That's why people being called nazi are up in arms.....

    I didn't call a non-Israeli a Nazi. I called someone who was justifying the Holocaust a Nazi sympathizer and apologist. I would have done the same if the person was Israeli or not.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    yosi wrote:
    I didn't call a non-Israeli a Nazi. I called someone who was justifying the Holocaust a Nazi sympathizer and apologist. I would have done the same if the person was Israeli or not.

    My mistake... nazi sympathizer... just as bad. As Dayan said.. just the word nazi directed at anyone is vile. And.... was that person really justifiying the holocaust??? Hasty judgement.
  • dayandayan Posts: 475
    redrock, while right now I'm somewhat busy and lazy and so I'm not going to track down the posts myself, I'm sure that if you take the time to go back and check you will find posts where people talk about how the Jews should know better than to commit the crimes committed against them (essentially calling Israel a nazi state) or flat out calling Israelis or Israeli leaders nazis or any other number of variations on the theme. From off the thread I can think of a few examples off the top of my head that illustrate that the sentiment is out there. There was a prominent portugese writer who said that what was happening to the Palestinians was worse than Aushwitz. Or comparisons between Jenin and the Warsaw ghetto. Again, I'm not saying that people shouldn't be critical of Israel. In fact I commend anyone who is critical in a rational manner conducive to debate. My anger is directed at those whose criticism crosses the line into hatred, or which takes the form of anti-semitic remarks (even if the authors of those remarks didn't intend that or don't know that what they're saying is anti-semitic). There are such people on the train, though they are, I hope a minority, and hopefully they can learn to be more careful and responsible with their language. This is equally true for those who would blithely throw around the term nazi.
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